What have you added to SL?

I don't see why you can't understand complaints about the premise. By your definition, it is fine for me, or you, or anyone else who has vaguely contributed to SL society to criticize someone, but if you haven't donated x amount of time/money, then shut up. Your gripe states very clearly that those who do not contribute do not have a right to complain - so those who contribute do? Would you have been any less upset if an established player who fits your contribution criteria ripped some project to shreds that you liked?

I agree that there are some people in these forums who like to simply tear things down - though I don't see it nearly as much as I used to. Do I see negative comments? Certainly. Is the criticism warranted? That is in the eye of the beholder. I have just as much of a problem with the attitude your post conveys as I do with unwarranted criticism.

You personally attacked everyone in SL and Forums, abuse reporting starts at home.

You are a reasonable man and I have seen you respond to criticism thrown at your efforts, but what if the criticism was a personal insult about you...Cris is this, Cris is a XXXXXXX...Cris lacks XXXXXX.. Is the personal insult to you warranted or in the eye of the beholder?

I'm starting to smell the stink of selflessness-as-virtue being preached. So I'd better throw in a quick reality check for everyone.

Anyone who claims to have done something solely for the benefit of others, particularly in Second Life, is completely full of it.

Though there are plenty of non-for-profit (or simple unprofitable) ventures in Second Life, and though many of these provide much enjoyment and satisfaction for others besides the owner, these ventures exist because their creators enjoy the act of creating. Second Life is filled with amazing new frontiers, potentials and challenges. Creative people are hooked on pursuing these sorts of things with a greater tenacity than junkies after a long-delayed fix.

Everyone who takes a vast project to completion in SL and opens it for the enjoyment of the community at large deserves respect and admiration -- but not because they're selfless -- that's just a moronic assumption. They deserve respect because it takes some real balls to have an idea and make it happen.

As for helping newbies or providing platforms for the same, this too is far from selfless. The act of education is an obligation that every human being shares equally. Without the willingness of others to share their knowledge, none of us would be the successes we are today. If you're willing to help a newbie get their bearings, you're no saint -- you're a decent human being. If you aren't willing, you're a dick.

What does this have to do with criticism? Absolutely nothing at all. I'm confused at one even being tied to the other. I don't need to have an MA in Culinary Arts or own a restaurant chain to be qualified to tell you that a piece of steak tastes like crap or that Al's Steakhouse isn't worth eating at.

if somebody makes a shack in sl and enjoys with their friends that's cool. if somebody makes a shack and boasts its a contribution to the community that's cool too but they should be prepared for criticism - positive, negative, constructive or not. name calling is not cool but "chris lacks rigour" or "cris is unimaginative" is normal criticism.

And I still have done nothng.

Hmm Jake..but I know the truth about what you did

It wasn't me.
I didn't do it.

Its absurd to claim I or anyone want to deny the right of criticism, but those who accuse me are trying to deny me MY RIGHT to criticize. Ironic, dont you think.

My point is merely that there are some in SL who offer unjustified criticism in the form of PERSONAL INSULTS and PERSONAL RIDICULE OF THE CREATOR and I think that is wrong.

What type of personal insult do those who disagree with me think is acceptable? Tell me why PERSONAL INSULT UNRELATED TO THE CREATION AND PERSONAL RIDICULE OF THE CREATOR is acceptable in words that make sense.

So, using that logic its ok for me to call you a slut if I dont like the script you made? Bad animation?...well you cheating bastard....unimaginative jewelry?...well you nasty hack bitch. I dont think so. Tell me who here agrees with this. and please tell me why because this is a world I dont relate to.

So, using that logic its ok for me to call you a slut if I dont like the script you made? Bad animation?...well you cheating bastard....unimaginative jewelry?...well you nasty hack bitch. I dont think so. Tell me who here agrees with this. and please tell me why because this is a world I dont relate to.

A lot of double talk here, and fancy footwork by some, but I know exactly what she's saying.

coco

Would you like to join me in banging my head on the desk? Why do it alone?

I am not sure this was manifest from the original post. At least I did not read it that way. I took it more as an opportunity for others to boast about the things they had done. It may be a bit self aggrandizing, but its interesting and informative, at least untill people start looking for it to be a personal attack. In which case we are back to the common problem of the forums which is people reading landmines into posts that are not intended, just to justify thier own personal flame war. If someone considered this thread an attack agaisnt the forums, they are free to not read it, or not participate in it. Personal attacks are best met with silence anyway.

that's because she's using your play book, duh