What have you added to SL?

Off topic?

With paranoid grudges?

What the heck do you think this topic is? Or more likely, what are you trying to insist it should be?

Seems to me somebody ELSE made this topic.

Seems to me it resonated with me insofar as yes, there is someone who hounds me in these forums, but seems to prefer playing WOW. Not you, but it occurs to me now that that does apply to you, too, doesn't it?

And that may be others who seem to be resting on their ingame laurels, off enjoying some other game, popping back into the game to collect their profits, and back in here to set everybody straight every so often with some pithy and nasty putdown, before they go off to their other game again.

And this makes me paranoid?

Paranoia. Conspiracy theories. Seems to me that any time particular people dare to post an opinion certain others don't like, or even dare to agree with part of someone else's opinion certain others don't like, then the certain others start yelling "paranoid," "conspiracy," "they," "passive-agressive" and God knows how many other unsolicited psychological analyses.

Cause, you know, that's apparently whole lot easier for some than to disagree on the actual topic at hand in a rational way.

Here's how it might be done:

"I disagree with you. I don't think there is anyone who just comes on the forums to criticize others, who are actually in SL on a frequent basis contributing to SL itself, whereas the nasty criticizer is not."

That's how you do it. You don't have to proffer your personal, unsolicted, baseless, biased, unprofessional, and inaccurate and more self-revealing than anything else opinions on the other individual's mental health.

But then - we've seen this sort of smear campaign attempted around here often enough before, haven't we?

coco

real life information concerning your age disclosed on the forum. As far as I know thats a TOS/CS violation....again.

And/or Cristiano.

There is constructive criticism and then there is hostile ridicule, and I distinguish between the two. For example, calling someone a name relating to them personally because you dont like their build or content. Are you really ok with that or are you defending a bizarre premise for personal reasons?

You are a reasonable man and I have seen you respond to criticism thrown at your efforts, but what if the criticism was a personal insult about you...Cris is this, Cris is a XXXXXXX...Cris lacks XXXXXX.. Is the personal insult to you warranted or in the eye of the beholder?

I am not saying people lack the "right" to call Cris names because they dont like a dance you made, I am saying it pisses me off. I am sure you see the distinction.

The whole thread seems directed at someone personally - you may have been vague about it, but it simply seems that someone pissed you off by criticising something you are personally connected to, and so you fired back with a vague thread.

While it may be the case that some may recognize themselves more than others concering this issue, that makes my concern no less valid. Arm chair quarterbacks have their place in life certainly, but its hard to take seriously some guy who never held a foot ball in his life when he insults the quarterbacks efforts by calling him names.

Some people teach it, some people do it and some observers comment. Trouble is unless you know what effort is required to accomplish something is the criticism fair? I never said no one has the right to criticize and that conclusion is incorrect. I said IT PISSES ME OFF when someone who doesnt really appreciate the effort that goes into making something because they dont do it, dont know how, dont understand the process, have no idea what is required, yet they sit in judgment of the creator as if they know.

I just think its wrong Cris, and I am really not sure what your objection to that is about. I already said, several times, if you or anyone wants to criticize then go for it. In addition, if someone wants to insult you personally because they dont like Snapzilla, then sure they have the "right" to do that.

This isnt about "rights" its about decency. Just plain old common courtesy and manners. Your manners seem impeccable and that makes me wonder is why are you pissed off that I am pissed off about it?

I don't understand this post

This isnt about "rights" its about decency. Just plain old common courtesy and manners. Your manners seem impeccable and that makes me wonder is why are you pissed off that I am pissed off about it?

Siggy, does it look something like this?

http://www.visit4info.com/sitecontent/LG/ZZZZZZCIC050204174005PIC.jpg

While it may be the case that some may recognize themselves more than others concering this issue, that makes my concern no less valid. Arm chair quarterbacks have their place in life certainly, but its hard to take seriously some guy who never held a foot ball in his life when he insults the quarterbacks efforts by calling him names.

Some people teach it, some people do it and some observers comment. Trouble is unless you know what effort is required to accomplish something is the criticism fair? I never said no one has the right to criticize and that conclusion is incorrect. I said IT PISSES ME OFF when someone who doesnt really appreciate the effort that goes into making something because they dont do it, dont know how, dont understand the process, have no idea what is required, yet they sit in judgment of the creator as if they know.

I just think its wrong Cris, and I am really not sure what your objection to that is about. I already said, several times, if you or anyone wants to criticize then go for it. In addition, if someone wants to insult you personally because they dont like Snapzilla, then sure they have the "right" to do that.

This isnt about "rights" its about decency. Just plain old common courtesy and manners. Your manners seem impeccable and that makes me wonder is why are you pissed off that I am pissed off about it?

So if people piss on your efforts here, just laugh it off. It's a losing battle to get respect from people who don't know how to give it. Sod all the flamers and just make stuff.

I don't think you will Eboni. And not because either one of you is right or wrong, just that you are really not on the same page. I understood her first one. And I understand this one. Honestly I think people are really not catching her point. Not their fault of course. The writer bares the burden.

Now.. I personally can't figure out how you all misunderstood her intentions. But, I'm not going to be one to begrudge anyone their response.

DANG, those are cute kitties, Jillian! Are they yours? Is that your rear end in the picture?

coco

P.S. And now that I've read further, the third picture! Oh how it makes me miss my cat's kittenhood. He's ten now, and such an old fuddy-duddy he can scarcely take a swipe at anything moving anymore, unless it's alive, like a little bird.

Cristiano IM'd me in game tonight, and he refreshed my memory on who said what. So I'd like to clarify what I said earlier by saying that Cristiano didn't suggest the "they" campaign or have anything to do with it. It was just that one of his posts inadvertently provided fodder for it; therefore not Cristiano's fault or involvement.

The writer bares the burden.

I don't understand this post

There is a very useful point burried in this back and forth.

That is -
There are people who only attack, hack and criticize others - without having attempted to learn the difficulties involved in actually contributing.

Those people really should stop and examine themselves and think why it is they feel a need to bring others down.

It is rude, inconsiderate and frankly Mean to concentrate only on the negative.

There is legitimate criticism, it has its place. Then there is downright being nasty and cruel. Maybe it has its place too. But those people who behave in such a way dont deserve the right to call themselves "Critics"

To be a true critic you are hoping that whatever you are criticising will be imporoved, removed , or that the things you see that are problems will some how be alleviated.

An actual self respecting critic does not criticize in order to hurt someones reputation, business or feelings.

I am curious why you tagged this on the end of your response. I called you out on referring to a group of people vaguely and just saying they over and over. I did not make graphics, abbreviations, acronyms, tshirts, web pages, parodies, or anything else, so why exactly are you lumping me in?