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Davina Steele
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04-04-2005 19:00
From: Catherine Cotton
I have nothing further to say, apparently no one is allowed an opinion that strays from the flock.

:) later


Page 5 again Catherine.. ONCE AGAIN.... STFU
blaze Spinnaker
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04-04-2005 19:01
I think telling other people to shut up should be against the forums TOS. I'd start another thread on this subject, but I think maxx would get very upset. And his feelings are of paramount importance to me!
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Lianne Marten
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04-04-2005 19:02
From: Davina Steele
Page 5 again Catherine.. ONCE AGAIN.... STFU


Speaking of page 5... are there still page 5 girls somewhere? I recall hearing something about it a long time ago but never knew what they were...
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Cristiano Midnight
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04-04-2005 19:02
From: Catherine Cotton
No Cristiano I choose to leave before I say something I will regrete. I am walking away from what now is a childish and ugly thread thanks to you and your new friends.

Bravo indeed.

later:)


No, Catherine, you choose to leave because you are a coward who says this kind of crap and then cuts and runs every single time. It was an ugly thread from the first post.
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blaze Spinnaker
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04-04-2005 19:03
Hey I'm a coward too.
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"User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."
Cristiano Midnight
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04-04-2005 19:03
From: blaze Spinnaker
I think telling other people to shut up should be against the forums TOS. I'd start another thread on this subject, but I think maxx would get very upset. And his feelings are of paramount importance to me!


Blaze,

I have really come to appreciate your posts of late. God help me for saying that, but it's true. :)
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04-04-2005 19:05
From: Cristiano Midnight
No, Catherine, you choose to leave because you are a coward who says this kind of crap and then cuts and runs every single time. It was an ugly thread from the first post.


Except...

She never actually leaves. She just repeatedly says she is.
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Cristiano Midnight
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04-04-2005 19:07
From: blaze Spinnaker
Hey I'm a coward too.


No actually, Blaze, you aren't. Even in the messes of your own creation, you are reasonable and put thought into what you say. You don't just pout and leave a thread because you are cornered by your own words. I respect that about you.
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Catherine Cotton
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04-04-2005 19:13
From: Cristiano Midnight
No actually, Blaze, you aren't. Even in the messes of your own creation, you are reasonable and put thought into what you say. You don't just pout and leave a thread because you are cornered by your own words. I respect that about you.[/QUOTE

Cristiano you make statements about what you think i might have ment. Yet you don't quote me. Then you expect me to argue those points with you.

Your an angry man right now and I choose not to fight with you. If that makes me a coward then so be it.

Now if you don't mind, I have things to do.

Later :)
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blaze Spinnaker
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04-04-2005 19:13
heh heh well 2000 posts later, hopefully i'm a little less annoying
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"User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."
Davina Steele
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04-04-2005 19:14
From: Catherine Cotton
From: Cristiano Midnight
No actually, Blaze, you aren't. Even in the messes of your own creation, you are reasonable and put thought into what you say. You don't just pout and leave a thread because you are cornered by your own words. I respect that about you.[/QUOTE

Cristiano you make statements about what you think i might have ment. Yet you don't quote me. Then you expect me to argue those points with you.

Your an angry man right now and I choose not to fight with you. If that makes me a coward then so be it.

Now if you don't mind, I have things to do.

Later :)



Be page 25 by the time you really means it
Roberta Dalek
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04-04-2005 19:18
Sorry to interrupt the warfare but I'd just like to point out that I perceive them to be cliched rather than offensive.

They are replicating an over-done genre rather than adding anything new to it. The *technique* is fine but the *creativity* is lacking.

Feel free to go back to fighting now ;)
Cristiano Midnight
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04-04-2005 19:18
From: Catherine Cotton
From: Cristiano Midnight
No actually, Blaze, you aren't. Even in the messes of your own creation, you are reasonable and put thought into what you say. You don't just pout and leave a thread because you are cornered by your own words. I respect that about you.[/QUOTE

Cristiano you make statements about what you think i might have ment. Yet you don't quote me. Then you expect me to argue those points with you.

Your an angry man right now and I choose not to fight with you. If that makes me a coward then so be it.

Now if you don't mind, I have things to do.

Later :)


Catherine,

I did quote you, you quoted yourself, other people have quoted you. You choose to read and see only what you want to, respond to what only suits you and ignore the stuff that you can't dispute. It has been your modus operandi for a very long time in thread after thread. When the going gets tough, Catherine gets going.
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Catherine Cotton
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04-04-2005 19:22
From: Cristiano Midnight
Catherine,

I did quote you, you quoted yourself, other people have quoted you. You choose to read and see only what you want to, respond to what only suits you and ignore the stuff that you can't dispute. It has been your modus operandi for a very long time in thread after thread. When the going gets tough, Catherine gets going.


LOL im not about to respond to other ppl's quotes for you Cristiano. Apparently your not going to back up what you said with any of my direct quotes that made you feel the way you say you do. Therefor I cannot respond to you. Now go pick on someone who is willing to call you a fucking asshole. I'm not.

:)
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04-04-2005 19:27
catherine, i don't understand why it is wrong for consenting adults to participate in softcore digital porn? do you write letters to your governor to complain about playboy? i don't see how girls showing their racks on motorcycle mags is any better than fake women showing fake boobies in fake china towns.

you argued so hard about how this is an adult world and kids should be shown the door, and now you are concerned about adult content.
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Cristiano Midnight
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04-04-2005 19:31
From: Catherine Cotton
LOL im not about to respond to other ppl's quotes for you Cristiano. Apparently your not going to back up what you said with any of my direct quotes that made you feel the way you say you do. Therefor I cannot respond to you. Now go pick on someone who is willing to call you a fucking asshole. I'm not.

:)


Charming, Catherine, and I did quote you and even requoted the part that you played dumb about. Like usual, you don't respond. Your technique of calling me something without having the guts to stand behind it is amusing. Talk about acting like a child.
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04-04-2005 19:41
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Nikki Seraph
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04-04-2005 19:48
Please take note of the fact that I am quoting you, Catherine, as have others before me...

From: Catherine Cotton
[...]They are not my equal cus they lowered them selves to showing tites and pussy.
(emphasis added)

That is the biggest piece of self-righteous bullshit I have ever read in my entire life.

And that's saying a lot.

You'll find that people are very nice if you come down off your high horse for a little while. And surprisingly, the views aren't even bad. So ... exactly what is it you like about being so high above the petty little masses? Is it the giddy feeling that comes from the air being thinner up there?
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Seth Kanahoe
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04-04-2005 20:11
18 pages of posts wasted on a fucking joke. Why? Because Catherine Cotton is right: Sex sells, and she just used sex to sell you-all on responding to her. Over and over again. With detail and energy. Even though the original point she was making is ridiculous.

It ain't art. It ain't even porn. It's just a virtual version of the wow-factor. Fine. Their choice to do it, their choice to use it, my choice whether to respond to it or ignore it. S'how it goes when you have to coexist with people who may not agree with you.

18 pages. God, Allah, or the Great Spirit help us all.
Catherine Cotton
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04-04-2005 20:14
From: Jauani Wu
catherine, i don't understand why it is wrong for consenting adults to participate in softcore digital porn? do you write letters to your governor to complain about playboy? i don't see how girls showing their racks on motorcycle mags is any better than fake women showing fake boobies in fake china towns.

you argued so hard about how this is an adult world and kids should be shown the door, and now you are concerned about adult content.



Hey Jauani; I wasn't going to post again but you asked a valid question that I would like to respond to :) and thanks for saying it in an adult manner, I appreciate that.

This is not rl. I wasn't talking about the girls/guys? them selves. I was more so shocked and asking why a fantastic team like Bedazzle take that route. It seems so out of context from what I believe they are trying to do. Which is to be taken seriously as builders, texture artists, and scriptors. All of which I have admired greatly. I was stunned to see the nudes.

For me it took away from the exceptional work they had done. For me I felt it wasn't(correction made here) necessary. I still think it was a mistake for them to do that. If that makes me wrong to the Bedazzle team and their supporters then that is fine. It's just an opinion.

Now if I had been given the chance I would of also said that Tcoz made a strong arguement for artistic value in skins. Perhaps if ppl did not jump so quickly down my throat over an opinion we could of had an adult converstation. Right now tho I dont find that is possiable.

A hell of a lot of realy rude statements were made by a hell of a lot of ppl and I don't wish to discuss anything more with them ever. They burned that bridge with me. I gave my opinion. If they are going to put the nude av pics out there don't be shocked or insulted when ppl (even me) make comments on them.

They can't have it both ways. Either its art or porn, either way they are going to have to accept any and all comments when they put it out for public viewing.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
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04-04-2005 20:18
From: Catherine Cotton
Perhaps if ppl did not jump so quickly down my throat over an opinion we could of had an adult converstation. Right now tho I dont find that is possiable.


From: Catherine Cotton
They are not my equal cus they lowered them selves to showing tites and pussy


Adult conversation indeed.
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Nikki Seraph
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04-04-2005 20:20
Catherine, I admit to being very angry at some of your words. I have quoted the particular words that made me angry. I would like to see you address those specific words. You keep dodging them.

The words in question are:

From: Catherine Cotton
[...]They are not my equal cus they lowered them selves to showing tites and pussy.
(emphasis added)

Now, that sounds very self-righteous. I would really love to know why your personal choice to not bare breasts or - other bits - makes you better than those that do.
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Catherine Cotton
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04-04-2005 20:30
From: Nikki Seraph
Catherine, I admit to being very angry at some of your words. I have quoted the particular words that made me angry. I would like to see you address those specific words. You keep dodging them.

The words in question are:

(emphasis added)

Now, that sounds very self-righteous. I would really love to know why your personal choice to not bare breasts or - other bits - makes you better than those that do.



Ok I admit I could of said "boobs and vulva" or any number of different references. Just as many in this thread could of toned down their rather colorful language. That is not to say I am justifying those words. Your right bad choice of wording, I apologize if you were offended by those choices. Let me also add that I did say what I meant but it could of been taken wrong.
"they are not my equals" that was meant to say that I would not of had a nude shot of myself taken and posted on a website. Not the rl me and not the av me. OK :) Sorry if it sounded like a put down.

:)
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Catherine Cotton
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04-04-2005 20:46
From: Nikki Seraph


Now, that sounds very self-righteous. I would really love to know why your personal choice to not bare breasts or - other bits - makes you better than those that do.


Sorry Nikki I missed the other part of your question

You want to know why my personal choice not to show my av makes me better than those that do.

First off it doesn't make me better or worse, its a personal choice.

Well that is a loaded question. It's my belief system I suppose. I won't get into my religous or other beliefs in a game forum. I hope you can understand that choice.

I will however say that my alt is a lesbian here in sl with a partner and we talked at great length about this subject. I would no more want her to share her naked av with the world any more than she would want me to share mine. :) It's something special between us. :) ok.
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