Forum Nomic anyone?

I meant the language, not the sim.

I propose that all current Nomic players receive double rations of "Cheese" or "Pecan Pie" or something of their choosing.

I vote yes.



LM-001: I propose that the name of this game be changed from "Nomic" to "Funky Voting Thread," since no one knows what the heck Nomic is anyway.

LM-002: I propose that, if at the time of this proposal's passing no mascot has been chosen, that Cheese be accepted as the Primary mascot. If a mascot has already been voted in, then Cheese shall take the auxilliary role and all benefits associated.

I vote yes to funky thread, I also propose that you all go to SLE right now and buy my new dress

I vote no ^_^

Can I put in a plea for Donny Degroot's proposal about numbering proposals is voted for.

This will make things A LOT EASIER.

I know its a long post, but in Nomic you tend to make your rules as watertight as possible, otherwise other players sneak round them.

All it says is that if you make a proposal you must give it a number consisting of your initials followed by a number.

So my proposals would be CF-001 CF-002 etc. This makes it a lot easier to keep track of the proposals.

It will also allow us to ignore any joke proposals that have a number.

Welcome to our new players. I'll start working on the current state of play now. I suspect we may have a few new points on the score board.

HANG ON!

Who's sex slave AM I?

I voted for you to be an open sex slave for all players of this game, not sure how that turned out yet though... I think the results are still out Willow.

As of the rules right now, I think you're Eggy's sex slave.

*laughs*

Jess.

Yeah, hes here to claim his prize o.O

LOL

I vote for Catfart to come along and tell me whats passed and whats not

Herin is the list of current proposals and their voting scores so far:

These proposals passed since the last update:
PASSED NEW RULE

vote for 4, votes against 1

PASSED NEW RULE

For 3, against 2

************
The following proposals failed since the last update

FAILED

Vote for 2, against 4

FAILED

for 2, against 3

FAILED

for 0, against 5

**** *
the following proposals still need votes


votes against 2, votes for 2


votes against 2, votes for 1

PLEASE VOTE FOR THIS

For 1, against 2


For 1, agaisnt 0


for 2, against 1


for 1, against 1


for 2, aginst 0


for 1, against 0, one spoilt(Sorry Eggy)


for 1, against 1


for 0, against 1


***********
New Proposals since the last update:




for 2, against 0




for 1, against 0


for 0, against 2


For 2, against 1


for 2, against 1


for 0, against 2 (Thankyou Nogard)


for 2, against 1


for 0, against 1


for 2, against 0


for 3, against 0


for 1, against 2


for 1, against 0


for 1 against 0

Bugger this

I vote YES to all

If I mistake a serious proposal for a joke let me know and Ill add it to the next update

'1.' This game is named Forum Nomic. This document is the set of rules by which Forum Nomic is run.

'2.' "Forum" in this ruleset is taken to mean this bulletin board, located at http://forums.secondlife.com

'3.' All players must abide by all rules currently in effect. The author of each message replying to this post is considered a player, unless they state that they do not wish to be a player. The Roster, or list of players, is part of the game state. Any player may forfeit their player status at will by by posting their forfeiture to this post.

'4.' The Administrator is a player who is responsible for maintaining the ruleset and the game state, and regularly posting these to the Forum. The identification of the Administrator is part of the game state. The Administrator is Catfart Grayson.

'5.' Any player may propose a rule change by posting a message describing the change to be made to this post. Players responding to a message containing a proposal are entitled to one vote each on it, until five votes have been cast on the proposal. At that point, if there are more votes in favor than against, the change is made by the Administrator; otherwise the message loses its proposal status. No player is entitled to more than one vote on any proposal.

'6.' The score of each player is part of the game state. Initially the score of a player is 0.

'7.' Anything not prohibited in the rules is allowed. The game state may only be changed as described in the rules.

'8' Willow Zander is Eggy Lippmann's sex slave.

'9' There is no rule 9


Right judegment time on my part. The first rule to be passed was actually labled rule 13.
But Im going to asume that was just the number that Neehai thought was next. So Im going to put this into rule 10

'10': Use of the word "quintuplet" in any rule proposal will result in immediate disqualification of the person proposing the rule.

Now, here's the point, the next rule to be approved was this one
'11' that Danny DeGroot will be personally liable for a one time payment of $250L to the author of the proposal accepted into the Game State as Rule 10, such liability to be discharged within seven days of the rule's acceptance,

but,

that such liability shall be null and void if no Rule 10 has been accepted into the Game State by March 1, 2005.

end of rules
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In my view that means that Neehai Zapata wins L$250 from Danny Degroot!

Roster and score to follow

Vote No.



Vote Yes.



Vote No.



Vote Yes.

she, actually.

also the rules don't say the only thing we can do is propose changes to the rules. but it does say anything not prohibited by the rules is permitted therefore unilateral declarations are permitted and i stand by my declaration.

furthermore i propose a rule: all players whose post count just hit 1000 are awesome and will be paid tribute of a pint of ice cream in the flavor of their choice by all other players.

Two players have scored points since the last update:

Congratulations to Neehai Zapata and Danny DeGroot



The following people have declared they are playing the game by posting to this forum

1 Zuzi Martinez
1 Eggy Lippmann
1 Neehai Zapata
1 Danny DeGroot

0 Catfart Grayson
0 Lance LeFay
Devlin Gallant
0 Willow Zander
0 Siobhan Taylor
0 Kris Ritter
0 Ardith Mifflin
0 Ace Cassidy
0 Nogard Codesmith
0 Jessica Robertson
0 Lianne Marten

I vote yes to this

*hand Zuzi ice cream*

Zuzi, apologies.




Hmm, OK. I'll disagree again. The rules state that the game state can only be changed as described of the rules. You are trying to change the game state from "in progerss " to "won" using something that is not in the rules, a unilateral declaration.

I propose that the following rule is added into the next available rule number

Rule: In order to prevent confusion between players of this game, players of SL and posters to this forum, the following terms must be used, wherever appropriate, in all proposals

Player Of the Nomic Game, or PONG
Someone who has declared they are a player in this game by posting to this forum. A PONG may be a POSL. All PONGs are PIFs

Player of Second Life, or POSL
Someone who plays in Second Life. Some POSLs are PONGs. Some PONGs are PIFs'

Poster In the Forum, or PIF
Someone who posts in this forum. All PIFs are POSLs. Some PIFs are PONGs

Any PONG not using the correct term in a post will lose 1 point. Examples, use of the words player/s, poster/s SL player/s etc, will cause the author to lose 1 point.

AND
The Adminstrator is to go back through the rules and change the wording to fit the new rule, without changing the menaing of the rules.

I vote NO, cos I'll forget...

NO:
Siobhan Taylor
I therefore propose that in the event of the proposal to share sex-slaves fails, then a new proposal be drafted whereby Kris gets an equal share of Willow, and moreover also gets an equal share of the yellow goo oozing from Eggy's crack.



YES:
Nogard Codesmith
i propose that no rule shall ever have a retroactive effect, unless specifically stated in its wording.

YES:
Neehai Zapata
Proposal 231: The administrator of the game must have more than three fingers.


NO:
Neehai Zapata
Proposal 435556: The official mascot of SL Nomic is pie.

NO:
Nogard Codesmith
proposal
All players voting yes on a proposal that does not pass, shall recieve one point, and all players voting no on a propsal that does pass shall recieve one point.

NO:
Siobhan Taylor
I also propose that cynicism be accepted into the ruleset as the correct manner of communicating proposals. And that extra points be awarded to players for being bitter and/or jaded.

NO:
Neehai Zapata
Proposal 435556: The official mascot of SL Nomic is pie. The filling of said pie shall be determined by Kris Ritter and may change at will.

NO(Sorry too complicated):

danny Degroot
Proposal DDG-05: Scoring
Proposed,

that, upon acceptance of a Proposal into the Game State as a new Rule, the Positive Valence of the Rule's vote (defined as the number of positive votes minus the number of negative votes within the accepted votes) shall be tallied by the Administrator,

that the number of points to be awarded shall be equal to the Positive Valence, and shall be placed into a Point Pool,

that the author of the new Rule shall immediately receive one of the points from the Pool,

that the remaining points from the Pool shall be distributed in this order:

- 1 point immediately awarded to the author of the immediately preceding Rule,

- 1 point held in escrow for the player who successfully authors the next Rule accepted, to be awarded to that player's account immediately upon acceptance of the Rule,

- 1 point immediately awarded to the author of the second prior rule,

and so forth, alternating between more-distant authors of Prior Rules and more-distant authors of Subsequent Rules until the Pool is fully assigned,

and that the first player to accrue 50 points under this system is declared the Winner of the Game.

== danny d.

NO:
Kris Ritter
I propose that Sio can have whatever she wants as long as she doesnt tickle me

NO:
Siobhan Taylor
Further, I propose that the scoring system be based on a percentage of the available points. To be more precise that in order to be declared the winner, a player must have amassed at least 80% of the total points, and that the points awarded be greater than the number of players multiplied by 50% of the total number of proposals, except on Tuesdays, when the first person to declare themselves the winner is pointed at and laughed at for 20 minutes.

YES:
Kris Ritter
I propose that people make their proposals a lot easier to understand. Pretend you're trying to make a 5 year old understand. Or me.I propose one sentence proposals with words of less than four sillibubbles(Interpreted to mean that no word greater than 4 syllables can be used)"

YES (But I need the words!):
Siobhan Taylor
Actually, in seriousness, I propose that a new rule be added to restrict the proposing of obviously trivial proposals with absolutely no bearing on anything, and that people who continue to propose silly proposals be punished by the traditional method of a stern look and wagged finger.


NO:
Jessica Robertson
I propose the following Rule:
The use of vowels in any subsequent posts following the adoption of this proposal as a rule is strictly forbidden, unless the vowel is in a proper noun.

NO:
Eggy Lippmann
I propose that all current Nomic players receive double rations of "Cheese" or "Pecan Pie" or something of their choosing.

NO (You want me to start a new thread, <shudder>:
Lianne Marten
LM-001: I propose that the name of this game be changed from "Nomic" to "Funky Voting Thread," since no one knows what the heck Nomic is anyway.


NO (I think Poppers should be the nomic mascot):
LM-002: I propose that, if at the time of this proposal's passing no mascot has been chosen, that Cheese be accepted as the Primary mascot. If a mascot has already been voted in, then Cheese shall take the auxilliary role and all benefits associated.

I vote yes
Ahhh, complicated defintions to use... one of my favorite aspects of nomic

unilateral declarations are implicit in "Anything not prohibited in the rules is allowed." there may not be a rule that says "unilateral declarations are ok" but there's sure not a rule that says "no unilateral declarations".

but if you just won't accept a change to the game state by unilateral declaration i won't change the game state. i'll just unilaterally declare that i'm the only one who can win.

Err.. my head hurts! Nogard, help?

Sorry, but your administrator is going to bed. I shall start again with a clear head. I'm sure this started off as a good idea.....

Nomic always starts out as a good idea, but then goes horribly, horribly wrong... lol

ok, the twisted logic has begun to flow, and here we are at a state in the game in which we don't even have the necessary rules to call for judgement. This is why I always try to start an open game with a lot of infrastructure. The only way to fix this is with some carefully worded rules modifications, or by proposing rules to install some kind of rules dispute resolution proceedure.