Mozilla being intergrated into SL in the next update?

Yeah, that's the SL community for you.

I think it has something to do with the lack of moderation in these forums.

People, when unregulated, seem to let the ugly side of their personalities bubble to the top and will quickly form into gangs / witch hunts / lynch mobs and will attack anyone who doesn't have their own posse to back them up.

For whatever reason, the community manager of SL thinks this is good cricket.

forms my own posse, lets see blaze, clair, coco who else is with us

Forum Politics 101, ignore 90% of what others say in their posts, and then swear at them, after you yourself have complained on more than one occasion, about swearing.

I am am not attacking you Cat, that you claim that I am is very telling however.

I pointed out the the former COO and current board member of RealNetworks is on the LL board, and that we don't have Real media, we have Quicktime. No response from you.

I then pointed out that wanting IE in lieu of Mozilla while saying "monopoly anyone", does not jive with your stated position. Again, no response from you.

I pointed out the irony of your cussing up a storm in this thread, when juxtaposed with other threads where you claimed to be against it. Response from you - stating that I was personally attacking you by contrasting your past philosophy with that you display in this thread. To me that is a perception distortion on your part, not an attack by me.

Your own words hang you Cat, not me. I hope someday you make that connection. If you feel "damned if I do, and damned if I don't", perhaps it's time for some personal reflection. I mean that, because I don't think you are a bad person. I think you see negatives in most things before you've given them full consideration, and then take it to the SL public while you're still fuming about it prematurely.

Can you please point me to the personal attack in referencing your past statements? Do you not stand by them any longer? If not, you have no place to be talking about "backbones".

Thanks blaze, it's good to know not all of the forum folks are that way.

Which forums are those? I've been in unregulated forums. These are most definetly NOT. They aren't as draconian as some, but they are by no means unregulated.

And please, do not bring up "Penny-Arcade"'s forums again. We do not need to be "sucessfull forums", nor are we in the same market as they are. It's a red herring, and not a particularly good one.

Chances are, that would have been a problem with your X-windows display. Unlike Windows and Mac, UNIX-like operating systems dont have a fixed DPI; instead it's generated from your monitors profile, the idea being that you can have high resolution graphics without everything being tiny.

Unfortunately a side effect of this often is that font sizes are all over the place if it didnt 'pick right', and a lot of the older/lesser X86Config/XOrgConfig tools that are packed with some distrobutions dont really do a fantastic job of setting up your monitor. (Debian-testing does do a decent job, Gentoo (pre 2004) and Slackware (pre10.0) dont, for example), but this isnt the fault of Konqueror; as can be evidenced by looking at say, Safari which is Konqueror with a shiny OSX frontend (although it's a little bit sluggish compared to the new releases of Konqueror itself).

-Adam

This attack:

You know, if LL thought the way Cat is trying to portray them, how come we aren't using Real instead of QT? (Bruce Jacobsen Director, RealNetworks) It only stands to reason right?

I am offended by the coarse language Cat is displaying in this thread. So, I will link you to a Profanity Filter thread started by none other than Cat Cotton. This was around the same time Cat was complaining to Pathfinder about coarse language herself, because she is a woman. Prior to that thread, she had spammed out a set of rules, one of which was something like "do not swear.."

Classic.

More than enough intelligent, articulate, and informed people have explained at length why they are going to implement this browser. You're just not hearing any answer other than the one you want to hear, which you're not going to hear, except in your own head.

If you're so worried about monopolies, you should be 100% against IE being used.


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Originally Posted by Catherine Cotton
Monopoly anyone



Did you stop to think that to use IE, LL would probably have to partner or contract with Microsoft, one of the biggest companies in the world? That it might cost them money to license, and that the more money LL doles out, the less they have to work with on the platform?

Probably not, because it doesn't fit your agenda.

Mitch is an advocate and leader in open source technology, therefore, your stance in this thread is incrongruent with the philosophical position you've displayed in other threads.[/QUOTE]

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Saying that I have angenda is not an attack, saying I am negative is not an attack...?

I have not only heard ppl I have agreed with them to some degree, did you miss those posts Nolan?

As far as my cussing well other ppl can call me a fucking whore and are still here spouting thier fucking bullshit, perhaps I'm sick to death of holding my fucking tounge while asshole after asshole spouts off what they feel I am thinking. More so they not only go on and on about what they feel is my personal agenda they continue to belittle and insult me, they claim to know what I'm thinking and time after time bring up the forum history, my alts, or claim anyone who agrees with me is an alt. Bullshit. I am not, nor have I ever been asshamed of anything I ever spoke out about.

Now you expect me to continue to sit here and just take it as I always have. HAHAHAHA nope im done playing nice fuck the opinions of the ppl who have nothing better to do than to make snarky posts and try to get a rise out of ppl who wont kiss their fucking asses. Damn straight I had enough who the fuck wouldn't after 2 damn years of the same bullshit.

What is the problem just becuase I didn't hide my insults behind long words it makes them sting more. Tough shit. I see it as I see it. If you dont like it dont fucking read it.

No.

You have been given this answer multiple times, by multiple people.

Yeah!!! What she said!!

Thats your opinion, I disagree.

And my point was IF it was chosen in whole or in part because both companies share a common board member, why would that be a bad thing? As I said if you've got a choice between going with a product made by someone who has an interest in your success and one made by someone who doesn't, go with the guy who's in your corner. Collaboration doesn't automatically mean conspiracy.

To offer a non-SL analogy, one of the functions we're considering for a new small business I'm partnering in is wedding & corporate event videos. I happen to have a friend who's a DJ and a mother who's a photographer. If we decide the video service is in our best interest, then we'll likely offer photography & DJ service as well, which would make us a one-stop event shop for our customers. Now why would I hire my friend & my mother over the thousands of photographers and DJ's in the phone book? Simple. The fact that they have a pre-existing relationship with me makes them both people who would have a personal stake in wanting the company to succeed, AND they are both competent to deliver a quality product. It's a win-win all around. I highly doubt any of our customers are gonna go cry conspiracy when they discover that the Photographer is my mother and the DJ is an old friend. Why should they care? So why should any of us care that LL had an in with Mozilla? It's no different.


Well, I can't speak for anyone else, but using it for business purposes wasn't really what I had in mind. My first thought was that now I'll finally be able to teach the Photoshop classes I've been wanting to do forever. Now that you mention it though, I did just think of a few ways I might want to incorporate the web into my store. Thanks for the hint.

Anyway, I have a hard time seeing how commercialism or anything else could ever be "shoved down your throat" in SL. You can literally do whatever you want. If you don't care about business, don't be involved in it, end of story. There are plenty of things you can do besides worry about how many people may or may not be trying to make a buck inworld, and there are PLENTY of people to you can socialize with who have a lot to say besides money talk. It happens that some of the loudest people on the tend to be profit-minded, but that doesn't mean everyone is.

No shit, and I responded didn't I. What is the point of yet another snarky reply by you DQ?

um none AGAIN, next.

I think I understand now. Cat is allowed to make attacks and accusations insinuating agendas on the part of LL, Avalon, Bedazzled, other players - i.e. Shadow, all those listed in your accusation list of the people who "ruined" your Christmas, etc., etc., ad nausem, ad infinitum, and no one else can. Cat is also allowed to speak for what others are "thinking", but if you reverse roles, Cat cries bloody murder. Got it. Thanks Cat.

I guess this means you're giving up on the profanity filter.

Catherine's expressed opinion was that SL users were going to be forced to use Mozilla, herself included, because of the conflict of interest and will of a board member. That if it were not for him, they would not use Mozilla. Mozilla is a free, open source product that any company can then integrate into their product, modify the source, etc.. under the terms of the open source license. How is that in any way commericial? Who is benefitting financially? It has nothing to do with commericialism. How exactly do you look at a free product with dollar signs in your eyes? A web browser and HTML becomes another creative outlet in SL - it opens up new possibilities for collaboration and development. Instead of trying to tar it with the brush of COMMERCIALISM IS EVIL, ask yourself, how in the hell is it commercial in the first place?

fuck your opinions Nolan. and yes the members of sl forums did in fact ruin my christmas with posts just like this one thanks so much for reminding me yet again. I don't think it has the same impact as it once did tho, cus i no longer give a flying fuck about the opinions of some ppl in these forums. You may join that group at any time, oh snap I see your already an officer nvm.

Then why say "finally an answer" as if no one answered you before that with the exact same information. And another childish response from you, Catherine.

Catherine expessed opinion was....

fuck your opinions

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Originally Posted by Catherine Cotton
No shit, and I responded didn't I. What is the point of yet another snarky reply by you DQ?

um none AGAIN, next.



Then why say "finally an answer" as if no one answered you before that with the exact same information. And another childish response from you, Catherine.
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why are you acting as if you give a fuck, when all your going to do is post another snarky reply.

Catherine,

You are the only one in this thread swearing like a bad Sopranos rerun and telling people their opinions don't matter. Where did anyone in this thread tell you that yours don't matter? Someone is not allowed to disagree with you?

Sigh.

You do realize, that because my opinions are a part of me, that saying "fuck your opinions" is the same as saying "fuck you", and that it is a personal attack?

Breathe.

roflmao who gives a flying fuck

no way darling are you taking it that way. well damn thats not right im not attacking you at all im attacking your opinions. Get with the program

So how does it feel to be treated like I have for the past two years Cristiano and Nolan? Doesn't feel so good when your on the recieving end does it.

No wonder why i say "fuck your opinions" talk about low down dirty fucking tatics re-read your posts and tell me how fucking innocent you are. Then promptly walk away from the forums and find a fucking life.

No Hugz for you!

Cat