Attack the problem not the person. That is the difference.
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Jauani Wu
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07-05-2005 09:46
i agree! Merry Christmas the invisible hand most sincere gratitude _____________________
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Catherine Cotton
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07-05-2005 09:49
Insinuating that others are the problem is attacking the person, Cat. key word "others". _____________________
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Selador Cellardoor
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07-05-2005 10:23
Nolan,
<<Interestingly enough, I see what Selador does sometimes, claiming there is a gender based motive for forum debates (on one side's behalf)>> Just to set the record straight, I have not said this about forum debates in general, but only about the feeding frenzies where one person is selected as a target for a general attack. As far as I recall, and irrespective of the reasons for it, this has happened with the following posters:- Anshe Chung - female Catherine Cotton - female Prokofy Neva - alleged female Ulrika Zugzwang - female Fizik Baskerville - male - something went wrong there Candie Apple - female I think the phrase is QED. Some might dispute the inclusion of Ulrika, but although the attacks were short-lived they were quite intense, and they were enough to seriously upset her and make her leave the forums for a time. As you see, I am not making a claim, but presenting a fact. The conclusion you might draw from that fact is yours to arrive at. _____________________
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Nolan Nash
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07-05-2005 10:28
Nolan, <<Interestingly enough, I see what Selador does sometimes, claiming there is a gender based motive for forum debates (on one side's behalf)>> Just to set the record straight, I have not said this about forum debates in general, but only about the feeding frenzies where one person is selected as a target for a general attack. As far as I recall, and irrespective of the reasons for it, this has happened with the following posters:- Anshe Chung - female Catherine Cotton - female Prokofy Neva - alleged female Ulrika Zugzwang - female Fizik Baskerville - male - something went wrong there Candie Apple - female I think the phrase is QED. Some might dispute the inclusion of Ulrika, but although the attacks were short-lived they were quite intense, and they were enough to seriously upset her and make her leave the forums for a time. As you see, I am not making a claim, but presenting a fact. The conclusion you might draw from that fact is yours to arrive at. Yet you conveniently leave out: Big John Jade Regnar Bell John Morgan Grimmy Moonflower Korg Stygian Tcoz Bach QED? I think not. _____________________
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Jonquille Noir
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07-05-2005 10:29
Nolan, <<Interestingly enough, I see what Selador does sometimes, claiming there is a gender based motive for forum debates (on one side's behalf)>> Just to set the record straight, I have not said this about forum debates in general, but only about the feeding frenzies where one person is selected as a target for a general attack. As far as I recall, and irrespective of the reasons for it, this has happened with the following posters:- Anshe Chung - female Catherine Cotton - female Prokofy Neva - alleged female Ulrika Zugzwang - female Fizik Baskerville - male - something went wrong there Candie Apple - female I think the phrase is QED. Some might dispute the inclusion of Ulrika, but although the attacks were short-lived they were quite intense, and they were enough to seriously upset her and make her leave the forums for a time. As you see, I am not making a claim, but presenting a fact. The conclusion you might draw from that fact is yours to arrive at. You forgot Korg, Alby, Blaze and Blake. All, I believe, male. _____________________
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Ingrid Ingersoll
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07-05-2005 10:30
Yet you conveniently leave out: Big John Jade Regnar Bell John Morgan Grimmy Moonflower Korg Stygian Tcoz Bach QED? I think not. Alby Yellowknife Shepp Proudfoot. (who I found amusing sometimes.  )_____________________
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Pendari Lorentz
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07-05-2005 10:33
Also Chance Small was and Jarod Godel still often is..
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Ingrid Ingersoll
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07-05-2005 10:34
OH! And my buddy Pete Fats.
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Catherine Cotton
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07-05-2005 10:36
"he's making a list, he's checking it twice he's gonna find out who's naugty and nice..."
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Selador Cellardoor
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07-05-2005 10:43
I am talking about prolonged and sustained attacks on people which lasted for months, not a few hate postings directed at griefers.
Of course, I should have realised this is a matter of interpretation, and some people would interpret things in a completely different way to me. Regnar Bell experienced a brief flurry of antagonistic postings, but then left the forum. Big John Jade was much the same. It was more of a controversy than a hate campaign, and it didn't last long. Korg was abusing people for years and the response he drew was very mild in comparison. Tcoz - I must have missed that. And Grimmy wasn't here long enough to cause a sustained campaign. Sorry - I don't see those as anything like the ones I have mentioned. But of course others will naturally disagree. _____________________
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Nolan Nash
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07-05-2005 10:51
I am talking about prolonged and sustained attacks on people which lasted for months, not a few hate postings directed at griefers. Of course, I should have realised this is a matter of interpretation, and some people would interpret things in a completely different way to me. Regnar Bell experienced a brief flurry of antagonistic postings, but then left the forum. Big John Jade was much the same. It was more of a controversy than a hate campaign, and it didn't last long. Korg was abusing people for years and the response he drew was very mild in comparison. Tcoz - I must have missed that. And Grimmy wasn't here long enough to cause a sustained campaign. Sorry - I don't see those as anything like the ones I have mentioned. But of course others will naturally disagree. That's right, rationalize them all away. I could rationalize away some of those you listed as well, but I won't. Well, maybe one. One who has for two years done more than her fair share of antagonizing, yet you want to give a free pass to, because she is female. Only you don't want people to know that, so, you smear the opposition with accusations of sexism. Let's just say I disagree with you and leave it at that. Have a nice evening, Selador. _____________________
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Cienna Samiam
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07-05-2005 10:55
key word "others". Exactly. But somehow, I get the feeling you don't think you do that. _____________________
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blaze Spinnaker
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07-05-2005 10:58
I'm female
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Selador Cellardoor
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07-05-2005 10:59
Nolan,
<<Have a nice evening, Selador.>> Thank you - I wish I could, but unfortunately I have a really boring meeting to go to.  _____________________
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Willow Zander
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07-05-2005 11:02
I'm female then you are cogwhatever disoojamaflip girl then!!! Get it RIGHT!!!  _____________________
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Ulrika Zugzwang
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07-05-2005 11:02
I'm female  ~Ulrika~ _____________________
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Catherine Cotton
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07-05-2005 11:04
As the person in question here....
I have already reposted a post I made on 03-19-2004 stating that the attacks had continued from the previous year. It's now 2005 and it continues to this day. Selador is absolutly correct, and the facts have been presented already to more than prove what he is saying as fact. Disagree all you want the facts remain. I have been personaly attacked in these forums by the same "mob" since 2003. If I walk away who will be next? Cat _____________________
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Jauani Wu
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07-05-2005 11:05
If I walk away who will be next? there is only one way to find out... _____________________
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Ingrid Ingersoll
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07-05-2005 11:08
Selador is absolutly correct, and the facts have been presented already to more than prove what he is saying as fact. Disagree all you want the facts remain. Case Closed! How come we've never been able to see the light before this? I for one, am going to blundgeon myself over the head with something heavy in the hopes that it will knock some sense into me. Then I'll get back to work. _____________________
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Schwanson Schlegel
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07-05-2005 11:11
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Reitsuki Kojima
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07-05-2005 11:14
You've lost weight, Schwan.
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Catherine Cotton
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07-05-2005 11:14
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Schwanson Schlegel
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07-05-2005 11:14
You've lost weight, Schwan. Yeah, I started smoking Pallmall lights. _____________________
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Lit Noir
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07-05-2005 11:21
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Jeska Linden
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07-05-2005 11:23
I think it's safe to say that this thread has outlived its arguable usefulness and as such is being closed. If you'd like to discuss the topic further, I encourage you to start another thread and keep it on-topic.
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