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Sally Rosebud
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03-30-2006 08:13
From: Kendra Bancroft
My point is that Liberals stand for what they believe is right. Not what they believe will help them "win". Kevn is insinuating that abortion issues are being used by liberals and democrats as a strategy to "win".

Kevn also fails to note that the leader of the Democratic Party, Harry Reid, is in fact pro-life.


You know, I'm starting to think Kevn just started this thread so he could tell us all abortion is wrong again. Really has nothing to do with political parties.
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Kendra Bancroft
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03-30-2006 08:14
From: Kevn Klein
I never said Democrat, I said liberal. :)



you quoted John Zogby as saying:

“much of the poll’s findings suggest Democrats will have trouble gaining a political advantage by using the emotionally charged issue of abortion.”

If you're going to cut and paste stuff, please read it first.
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Sally Rosebud
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03-30-2006 08:14
Did you not read what you posted???? :confused:

From: someone
Pollster John Zogby said “much of the poll’s findings suggest Democrats will have trouble gaining a political advantage by using the emotionally charged issue of abortion.”
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Lecktor Hannibal
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03-30-2006 08:15
Please gawd make it stop.
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Sally Rosebud
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03-30-2006 08:16
From: Lecktor Hannibal
Please gawd make it stop.


Aww honey, it's ok :)
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Vivianne Draper
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03-30-2006 08:17
well uh...

women are a minority and since ALL aborted babies are from women it stands to reason that MOST aborted babies would be from minorities


OMG I'M JUST KILLIN MYSELF WITH MY OWN CLEVERNESS!!!!!
Taco Rubio
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I mistyped Zogby Interactive as Zogby International, sorry it's early here
03-30-2006 08:18
As usual, I'm still fact checking before I even get started. Kevn, can you kindly give me the link where you got that news article? I've never heard of (BP), and the polls I'm reading on Zogby Interactive, such as this one, don't seem to reflect the same numbers.


Thanks,

Taco


p.s. (why put "rights" in quotes in the header? You're undermining an interesting study by loading the title to emotionally incite. Trolling, in other words).
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Kevn Klein
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03-30-2006 08:18
From: Kendra Bancroft
you quoted John Zogby as saying:

“much of the poll’s findings suggest Democrats will have trouble gaining a political advantage by using the emotionally charged issue of abortion.”

If you're going to cut and paste stuff, please read it first.

I read it. Zogby was saying Democrats will not be able to use abortion as usual. What has that to do with what I said?

While it's true most liberals are Democrat, there are conservative Democrats, just as there are liberal Republicans. That's why I prefer to use "liberal" and "conservative" when discussing this topic. k?
Kevn Klein
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03-30-2006 08:19
From: Vivianne Draper
well uh...

women are a minority and since ALL aborted babies are from women it stands to reason that MOST aborted babies would be from minorities


OMG I'M JUST KILLIN MYSELF WITH MY OWN CLEVERNESS!!!!!

Since when did women become a minority? Sheesh....
Kendra Bancroft
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03-30-2006 08:20
From: Kevn Klein
I read it. Zogby was saying Democrats will not be able to use abortion as usual. What has that to do with what I said?

While it's true most liberals are Democrat, there are conservative Democrats, just as there are liberal Republicans. That's why I prefer to use "liberal" and "conservative" when discussing this topic. k?



I prefer to use "moron".
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03-30-2006 08:21
From: Kendra Bancroft
I prefer to use "moron".

LMAO :D
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Kevn Klein
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03-30-2006 08:21
From: Taco Rubio
As usual, I'm still fact checking before I even get started. Kevn, can you kindly give me the link where you got that news article? I've never heard of (BP), and the polls I'm reading on Zogby International, such as this one, don't seem to reflect the same numbers.


Thanks,

Taco


p.s. (why put "rights" in quotes in the header? You're undermining an interesting study by loading the title to emotionally incite. Trolling, in other words).

The term rights is in quotes because rights start with life. Freedom to choose to kill a child isn't a right any more than owning slaves was a right. It may be legal at this time, but that will soon change.
Zuzu Fassbinder
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03-30-2006 08:22
From: Vivianne Draper
seriously? he's doing it for postcount? how pathetic

No, I was only teasing. Kevn is actually strongly pro-choice. His presentations in the forums of extremist pro-life positions are intended to make pro-life supporters look like idiots. This is intended to cause all but the stanchest pro-life supporters to back away from that position and drive middle-of-the road people toward the pro-choice position. It also serves as a wake-up call to pro-choice people to move to action. (for example, I had never donated money to NARAL until one of Kevn's abortion threads convinced me that this was something that need to be done.)

I'm not overly fond of the tactics, but they seem to be effective.
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Taco Rubio
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03-30-2006 08:23
From: Kevn Klein
The term rights is in quotes because rights start with life. Freedom to choose to kill a child isn't a right any more than owning slaves was a right. It may be legal at this time, but that will soon change.


Oh, well it's a right, not a "right" as it's legal.


Could I have that link, please? I'm trying to figure out why Zogby would do a poll on abortion of 5000 people 2 months ago and announce it, but not announce one of 30,000 people.

Thanks!
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Vivianne Draper
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03-30-2006 08:24
From: Kevn Klein
Since when did women become a minority? Sheesh....


uh like always? that's why they are covered under the EEOC and what not
Kevn Klein
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03-30-2006 08:24
From: Zuzu Fassbinder
................It also serves as a wake-up call to pro-choice people to move to action. ...........

Better get busy, your side is losing ground fast.
Kevn Klein
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03-30-2006 08:25
From: Vivianne Draper
uh like always? that's why they are covered under the EEOC and what not

Sweetheart, you realize there are more women than men, right?
Cristiano Midnight
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03-30-2006 08:26
Kevn,

Why do you keep stirring the pot with the same topics OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER again? Seriously, do you not have anything else to talk about besides abortion and evolution? You aren't going to sway anyone's opinion no matter what you post, they are way too personal of topics that go to the core of someone's belief system. All you end up doing is trolling the forums and causing a bunch of really unpleasant threads to spiral out of control over and over again. In that regard, you are as bad as the idiots creating all the age play threads. Whatever valid points you may have are lost upon the sheer volume of all these threads.
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Kevn Klein
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03-30-2006 08:28
From: Taco Rubio
Oh, well it's a right, not a "right" as it's legal.


Could I have that link, please? I'm trying to figure out why Zogby would do a poll on abortion of 5000 people 2 months ago and announce it, but not announce one of 30,000 people.

Thanks!

Here you go, little Taco man :)

http://www.zogby.com/soundbites/ReadClips.dbm?ID=6982

http://www.zogby.com/search/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1060
Zuzu Fassbinder
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03-30-2006 08:28
From: Kevn Klein
Better get busy, your side is losing ground fast.

That's the spirit, Kevn! We'll win this yet. (sorry for blowing your cover)
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Kendra Bancroft
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03-30-2006 08:28
From: Kevn Klein
Better get busy, your side is losing ground fast.



you do realize this isn't a football game right?
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Taco Rubio
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03-30-2006 08:31
From: Kevn Klein


thanks bro! I'm glad to be able to....hey wait a second!

That poll is over two years old :confused:

and it doesn't relfect the numbers in the original post!

and it isn't the "article" you're put in your original post!

Where did that come from? What's BP?

weird stuff!
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Damian Baphomet
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03-30-2006 08:34
From: Kendra Bancroft
you do realize this isn't a football game right?



well ... it could resolve the problem for both side actually ... let the mother finish pregnancy ... tie the thing and see how much rebounds it can make before splatting :rolleyes:


ok this was gross on purpose ... this subject is really starting to annoy me so Kevn ... you won't make anybody change its mind here (except perhaps as Zuzu said make them fight harder) and others won't make Kevn change his mind as "god showed them the way".

so shut the f*ck up all and come play rugby behind the abortion clinic :D
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03-30-2006 08:39
Who else here thinks Kevn should buy a vowel?
Ordinal Malaprop
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03-30-2006 08:42
What happened to Kiamat? He was much better at this sort of thing.
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