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Cristiano Midnight
Evil Snapshot Baron
Join date: 17 May 2003
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02-22-2006 21:50
From: Barbarra Blair I chose to IM the posters and not close the thread, but I didn't want my mail box filling up with these complaints.
What the res mods are supposed to do is to communicate with people privately (not reprimand them on the forums). I sent polite requests that relayed the concerns expressed by those reporting posts.
Interesting, in that you sent nothing to me, yet edited my post. Were you told at any time that you are allowed to edit threads as part of your new position?
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Jonquille Noir
Lemon Fresh
Join date: 17 Jan 2004
Posts: 4,025
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02-22-2006 21:50
You have no right and no authority to change or remove the words of another resident. None. If the ARs are annoying you, leave the ResMod program. From: Barbarra Blair In this forum I've been asked to explain why I IM'd some posters and why I took out some objectionable words.
I received more than 10 reports on the two posts that I edited within a very short time. Everyone knows that the forums must adhere to PG guidelines and should not engage in personal attacks. Right now we are waiting on clarification on whether res mods should edit posts or simply close the thread. Our only other option is to IM the poster or ask for Linden intervention, which can result in disciplinary actions. (Res mods cannot take such action.) I chose to IM the posters and not close the thread, but I didn't want my mail box filling up with these complaints.
What the res mods are supposed to do is to communicate with people privately (not reprimand them on the forums). I sent polite requests that relayed the concerns expressed by those reporting posts.
Since then this thread has only become more abusive, so obviously I made the wrong choice. Let me know now whether you think that I should have simply closed the thread or asked the Lindens to take action.
In the meantime, I want to let you all know that I do not have a beef with anyone here and would not hurt anyone's feelings for the world. I enjoy the free exchange of ideas, but I don't think anyone is enjoying all the ill feelings here.
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Jim Lumiere
Registered User
Join date: 24 May 2004
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02-22-2006 21:50
From: Barbarra Blair In this forum I've been asked to explain why I IM'd some posters and why I took out some objectionable words.
I received more than 10 reports on the two posts that I edited within a very short time. Everyone knows that the forums must adhere to PG guidelines and should not engage in personal attacks. Right now we are waiting on clarification on whether res mods should edit posts or simply close the thread. Our only other option is to IM the poster or ask for Linden intervention, which can result in disciplinary actions. (Res mods cannot take such action.) I chose to IM the posters and not close the thread, but I didn't want my mail box filling up with these complaints.
What the res mods are supposed to do is to communicate with people privately (not reprimand them on the forums). I sent polite requests that relayed the concerns expressed by those reporting posts.
Since then this thread has only become more abusive, so obviously I made the wrong choice. Let me know now whether you think that I should have simply closed the thread or asked the Lindens to take action.
In the meantime, I want to let you all know that I do not have a beef with anyone here and would not hurt anyone's feelings for the world. I enjoy the free exchange of ideas, but I don't think anyone is enjoying all the ill feelings here. So may we expect to see all other occurrences to be similarly edited? Just curious ... in that "seeking consistency so I know what I may and may not do" sorta way. 'k? Thanks |
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Martin Magpie
Catherine Cotton
Join date: 13 Nov 2004
Posts: 1,826
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02-22-2006 21:53
With all due respect if the resmods were given the ability to edit any post the residents should of been told before they edited anything. Not after the fact.
Were the resmods not given any moderation rules? Last I knew they did not have the ability to edit the posts. It has been suggested that this is a forum error. Or is this in fact part of Phase II?
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Barbarra Blair
Short Person
Join date: 18 Apr 2004
Posts: 588
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02-22-2006 21:57
No, I was not told not to edit posts. I was told to use the tools that I found available as a res mod. As I said, we are awaiting clarification.
At any rate, I will just leave it to a more neutral party as to what to do with this thread.
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Jonas Pierterson
Dark Harlequin
Join date: 27 Dec 2005
Posts: 3,660
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02-22-2006 21:58
If it involves me, ALWAYS call a Linden. They have the authority and I'd rather speak to the authority directly.
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Martin Magpie
Catherine Cotton
Join date: 13 Nov 2004
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02-22-2006 21:58
From: Barbarra Blair No, I was not told not to edit posts. I was told to use the tools that I found available as a res mod. As I said, we are awaiting clarification.
At any rate, I will just leave it to a more neutral party as to what to do with this thread. Thanks for answering honestly Barbarra.  Cat |
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Matthias Zander
...me?
Join date: 2 May 2004
Posts: 109
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02-22-2006 22:02
From: Barbarra Blair
I received more than 10 reports on the two posts that I edited within a very short time. Everyone knows that the forums must adhere to PG guidelines and should not engage in personal attacks.
Am I the only person wondering where the second edited post is, and what was edited out? |
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Cristiano Midnight
Evil Snapshot Baron
Join date: 17 May 2003
Posts: 8,616
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02-22-2006 22:03
From: Matthias Zander Am I the only person wondering where the second edited post is, and what was edited out? Or who the heck she supposedly IMed?
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MJ Hathor
Purple Butterfly
Join date: 17 Mar 2005
Posts: 901
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02-22-2006 22:03
I thought the new ResMods were trained for a week. I guess it could have been an oversight to not tell the new ones coming in that the only thing they are able to do is move and lock a thread for review but yes, before jumping to any conclusions maybe we should wait for a linden response. **shrug**
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Siggy Romulus
DILLIGAF
Join date: 22 Sep 2003
Posts: 5,711
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02-22-2006 22:03
From: Jonquille Noir She edited out a curse word and replaced it with "....." Thats ok I'm being told I better 'think it over' when I said if the Lindens wanted my sig line changed they can send a Linden to tell me. I think some people are power tripping.. Ya know at the start of the day I thought it a huge joke.. now though - if someone wants it changed they can get Jeska to edit it - coz its staying for eternity. Just on principle. My reply - I'll save you the trouble of editing my post.. dot dot dot dot dot yourself.
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Matthias Zander
...me?
Join date: 2 May 2004
Posts: 109
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02-22-2006 22:05
From: Cristiano Midnight Or who the heck she supposedly IMed? Very good question here, Cristiano, and one that I've posed in a snippet in the SecondLife Herald to cover.  |
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Jim Lumiere
Registered User
Join date: 24 May 2004
Posts: 474
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02-22-2006 22:05
From: Barbarra Blair No, I was not told not to edit posts. I was told to use the tools that I found available as a res mod. As I said, we are awaiting clarification.
At any rate, I will just leave it to a more neutral party as to what to do with this thread. So .. does that mean that the other 10 times that word was used TODAY wont be touched? This is so confusing ... |
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Martin Magpie
Catherine Cotton
Join date: 13 Nov 2004
Posts: 1,826
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02-22-2006 22:08
From: MJ Hathor I thought the new ResMods were trained for a week. I guess it could have been an oversight to not tell the new ones coming in that the only thing they are able to do is move and lock a thread for review but yes, before jumping to any conclusions maybe we should wait for a linden response. **shrug** MJ you were a resmod are the tools there by default to edit any post? Is it an honor system that the resmods do not edit posts? But have the ability to do so? Cat |
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Belaya Statosky
Information Retrieval
Join date: 3 Jun 2004
Posts: 552
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02-22-2006 22:09
This is truely the thread that keeps on giving.
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Torley Linden
Enlightenment!
Join date: 15 Sep 2004
Posts: 16,530
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02-22-2006 22:09
HELLO
Jon asked about this on SL Answers, I've responded! From: me THANX for the alert, Jon. In regards to ResMods editing--absolutely not! No changes in that... what happened was settings to the database didn't save properly. I have doublesaved them and now they are RIGHT.
Any changes that are made will be announced.
VERY sorry about this and for any confusion.
I went over the perms and it's been rectified. I'm also going to let all the ResMods know, so that anything that needs fixing--will be fixed.
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Matthias Zander
...me?
Join date: 2 May 2004
Posts: 109
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02-22-2006 22:10
THANK YOU Torley! Glad to hear there's still some sanity in moderation of the forums. |
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Torley Linden
Enlightenment!
Join date: 15 Sep 2004
Posts: 16,530
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02-22-2006 22:12
You're most graciously welcome, Matt. I'm sorry I didn't reply earlier I was in the midst of juggling Infohub documents--but no excuses from me. If there's anything else amiss, please don't hesitate to let Jeska or myself know.
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MJ Hathor
Purple Butterfly
Join date: 17 Mar 2005
Posts: 901
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02-22-2006 22:13
From: Martin Magpie MJ you were a resmod are the tools there by default to edit any post? Is it an honor system that the resmods do not edit posts? But have the ability to do so?
Cat No, its not there by default. As Torley explained above it was a permission messup. Fixed now thankfully |
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Martin Magpie
Catherine Cotton
Join date: 13 Nov 2004
Posts: 1,826
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02-22-2006 22:17
From: MJ Hathor No, its not there by default. As Torley explained above it was a permission messup. Fixed now thankfully Phew huh well I feel better. Thanks for the reply. Cat |
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Jonquille Noir
Lemon Fresh
Join date: 17 Jan 2004
Posts: 4,025
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02-22-2006 22:17
Thanks for answering, Torley.
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Cristiano Midnight
Evil Snapshot Baron
Join date: 17 May 2003
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02-22-2006 22:17
From: Torley Linden You're most graciously welcome, Matt. I'm sorry I didn't reply earlier I was in the midst of juggling Infohub documents--but no excuses from me. If there's anything else amiss, please don't hesitate to let Jeska or myself know. Thank you, Torley.
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Barbarra Blair
Short Person
Join date: 18 Apr 2004
Posts: 588
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02-22-2006 22:19
I also wanted to point out that this is in the faq's: /invalid_link.html From: someone Self-regulation of forum posts is the ideal. Posts should conform with the Terms of Service and the Community Standards. However, moderators will have the option of - editing aggressively offensive personal attacks to remove those statements that violate the community standards...
Believe me, there is no power trip involved here. I am not going to discuss what I said in private messages here, but I did not threaten anyone or anything else that has been suggested. That is just not even in my nature. I do tend to respond when people ask for help, so I suppose I took all the complaints too seriously.
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Chip Midnight
ate my baby!
Join date: 1 May 2003
Posts: 10,231
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02-22-2006 22:19
From: Matthias Zander Glad to hear there's still some sanity in moderation of the forums. Yes, now if only we could get some sanity in the reactions to the moderation of the forums
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Matthias Zander
...me?
Join date: 2 May 2004
Posts: 109
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02-22-2006 22:21
From: Chip Midnight Yes, now if only we could get some sanity in the reactions to the moderation of the forums Hey now, you can't ask for anything and everything, and expect to get it  |