Vote To Impeach Bush!!

But, that very example implies that pure democracy requires checks and balances so that the majority does not tyrranize the minority. The only reason American democracy works is that there are so many checks and balances preventing it from becoming a tool of the despots among us. Interesting what Thomas Jefferson had to say about it:

"A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine."

God Bless America!!

I'm a true patriot!

I would appreciate it if you would refrain from calling those who disagree with you terrorists. I consider this a libelous comment, you can call me a nut, you can call me a liberal but do not refer to me or anyone else on these forums as terrorists. I'll ask you nicely this time but it is getting old and I am sick of it. Say what you will about your political affiliation, I would hope that you can do so without the deffamatory commentary. That particular word holds heavy consequences so before using it you better make damned sure you can prove your allegations.

ter·ror·ist
n.
One that engages in acts or an act of terrorism.

ter·ror·ism
n.
The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.

Those who disagree with the establishment are sometimes considered dissenters, possibly radicals to some but terrorists they are not. Either expand your vocabulary to include words with more appropriate connotations or simply refrain from posting as you may find yourself digging a hole you are unable to reach out of.

Good one but I like this one a wee bit better:

"The best explanation I ever heard about this subject was from Dr. John Eidsmoe of Faulkner University, who expanded on Benjamin Franklin’s original idea. A democracy is three wolves and a lamb deciding what they are going to have for lunch. A republic is the same three wolves and a lamb voting on a representative who will decide what they are going to have for lunch. A Constitutional Republic recognizes a higher law outside of creation that those wolves cannot eat the lamb for lunch and the lamb is bearing arms (guns) for self-defense."

Source: http://newswithviews.com/guest_opinion/guest28.htm

Nice. Thank you for that Artillo!

"A democracy [is] the only pure republic, but impracticable beyond the limits of a town."
-Thomas Jefferson to Isaac H. Tiffany, 1816.





Just like I said, Sucka!!

You are wrong. This is the very reason why the Federal Government was intended to be a small and heavily scrutinized entity and state governments were to have far more power. The end result would be democracy as far as states rights are concerned. You really need to read the constitution Alby and perhaps revisit US history for a bit.

FFS. I may lean to the left myself but people need to stop bloody whining and make yourselves stronger as a group. You want to change the world, gather yourselves, make a strong agenda and actually make an impact on the next election. Crying with your tails between your legs and/or leaving the country will not do anything to further this. Getting a candidate worth a damn would be nice, too. That goes for both parties.

Actually I would appreciate it if you would consider your own definition parsed and rephrased as follows.

ter·ror·ist
The use or threat of force or violence by yourself against anyone with the intention of intimidating or coercing them to your point of view for ideological or political reasons.

Looked at this way, those who make the claim, as you have, that Bush is the beginning of the end of the American ideal are engaging in exaggeration that amounts to specious threats and fear-mongering.

In at least this sense, the verbal assault on conservatives, Republicans and those who support the current Administration have been the targets of your rhetorical terror campaign for over half a year.

Hmmm funny because I rarely if ever say anything with regard to the Republicans per say other than the occasional snipe when others try to peg me as a Democrat, I have spoken of certain vocal radical factions of the party (neo cons and evangelicals for instance). But I general refrain from aiming my personal opinion of Bush and the current administration towards any singular citizen of America. Stating my opinion of Bush and his administration whether it is dissenting or in agreement is not an act of terrorism, it is my right of free speech. I don't think it is asking much for the folks in this forum to keep from pointing the terrorist finger at fellow citizens. Ohh and thank you for redefining the word terrorism, lord knows I never held a ton of stock in that Webster guy anyhow.

Just remember Buddha says he who lives in a glass house should dress in the basement...otherwise the whole street will see the stains in his underwear.

You aren't serious, right? Just days before the election, Cheney said that if Bush wasn't elected that we would be attacked. Yet, in what is apparently now proper Republican tradition, one of the mindless multitude suggests that the Democrats, those vile and loathsome pro-peace lunatics, engaged in fear-mongering.

Go figure.

I agree though getting a decent candidate is not an easy task considering the amount of money it costs to buy ones way in to the race and even then the big dogs may not let you on the porch come debate time. No face time usually equals no votes in the US because folks rarely read the party platforms much less the individual's political philosphy/background.

And the herd circles and forms a defensive attack posture.

You have lumped me in with "mindless multitude" without having the slightest clue of my political persuasion.

Congratulations. You proved my point for me.

If your point was that you're a douchebag, then I think I did an excellent job.

So... when you made a widly inaccurate and loaded statement that absolutely belies any other political affiliation... you've provided no clues about your political stance?

When you equate rational dissent to terrorism, it becomes abundantly clear that not all the pistons are firing in your ol' noggin.

My statement simply showed just how ridiculoous it was to cry "you are labelling me" when you yourself were doing that. That I played games with your own words shows nothing about my own political affiliation. You are the one idenifying your own "upset" and argument with rational dissent - an assertion that even you must be able to see is easily perceived as a biased statement in self-defense by anyone else, regardless of wheher that is the sole reason for it or not.

The you devolve into a classic ad hominem with th epearl "it becomes abundantly clear that not all the pistons are firing in your ol' noggin." and illustrate again that you feel on the defensive by avoiding the argument presented to you.

Sorry dear. You have been had --- by your own words.

I hope I never have to type your name into anything!

(Oh sorry. I have nothing to add on the subject of the thread. I just saw PlenEx's name and thought 'jeezus!')

Uh. Bye then.

Not true.. If the message is good and voters can connect, the money will come.People who believe in an idea and/or ideal will open their wallets to see it materialize. Look at Howard Dean (That Hippie) and how a "nobody" sucked in millions overnight.

So your wrong Isis. Jesus was dirt poor and his message still finds its way into many people's lives. Consider him the ultimate politician with the ability to deliver a message without spending a dime.

Money is an excuse to hide the lack of vision.

Somehow I don't think you'd be so concerned about paper trails if Kerry had won.

I would be (and am) concerned regardless of candidate or party. This is a pretty major glitch in the system, and has a profound impact on voter confidence.

You would be wrong.

Luckily, we'll never know for sure!

-Kiamat Dusk
Alot of my friends are Liberals

This country belongs to the people and whenever they shall grow weary of their government they can exercise their constitutional right to amend it, or revolutionary right to dismember it or overthrow it. - Abraham Lincoln



God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion...And what country can preserve its liberties, if it's rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? - Thomas Jefferson