Vote To Impeach Bush!!

It really isn't important, since it's not going to lead to anything and Bush really hasn't done all of those things(maybe a few). He still won the popular election and he still have majority support. The difference is of course that he is loved and hated passionately, making tolerance very difficult.

In the end this is just flame fodder, no better then the crappy conservative threads being thrown around.

"I, Richard Bruce Cheney, do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States..."

Gonna impeach him, too? Well, then:

"I, Dennis Hastert, do solemnly swear..."

Don't they have to call an election immediately if the president is impeached?

Yeah, and that too. D:

OMFG Darko! You rock! That was so funny! I wanna have your baby

Can you prove that? Because without voter verified paper trails there's frankly no real way that we the people can be sure who actually won. Just sayin'

Hey, he won by a good margin(beyond a real margin for error). They said it on the news constantly. Even if it wasn't true the burden of proof would be on those who would want to prove he didn't win/the votes were rigged. As for his current approval rating.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/ALLPOLITICS/01/10/poll/

Still, point remains, there will not be an impeachment and if there is it won't be because of some petition and even if there was.. We'll have Dick waiting to take office.

Its called a "margin of error" --and no --the burden of proof is on the one claiming victory.

I'll show you how this works.

I, Kendra Bancroft, claim to be Queen of England. Are you saying you have to prove I am not?

So if they got rid of Bush, would that put Dick in charge?


I guess no matter what the subject on these forums it still always comes down to the same question:

Which do you prefer? Dick or Bush?

Siggy.

Actually the burden of proof lays with those disputing what is generally accepted. It is generally accepted that you are not the queen of england and is generally accepted that Bush is president and won so without foul play.

No. Let me explain things simply. The Electoral College has certified the election. It's over. Get over it.

Is it just me, or does anyone else feel freaky about submitting their name, address and email to a website with no information about the organizers except an address?

WHOIS shows the domain name owners all listed with privacy protection. No way to confirm who they are.

Don't get me wrong, I'd sign the petition in a heartbeat, but I don't know who these guys are from Adam.

You have no facts to back up your assertation of being Queen.

Bush has facts to back up his assertation of being president.

You may disagree with those facts...

But then the burden of proof once again rests on you to disprove Bush's assertation.

It amazes me that so many fear the government. In the US we have the right of civil disobedience. Regardless of what some polling machine states, we do have the right up to his final day in office to command his obedience to the constitutional guidlines set out to protect us, the citizens whom he represents (not controls). If he chooses not to do so we have the right to ask for an impeachment. The impeachment process is not a nobody likes you so your fired gig, it is simply a review of charges which if found to be true will be acted upon.

America needs to wake up and start acting on these rights before Bush starts another needless war in another sovereign nation. I would rather be a slave suckling a tyrant outworn with the will to fight for freedom in a desolate land than a man crippled by unknown fears and hollow promises material satiation. Bush's call for freedom and liberty fall on deaf ears here as his action portray a different spirit one of callous greed and religious histrionics.

Thourough said it best in his speed Civil Disobedience:

"This American government—what is it but a tradition, though a recent one, endeavoring to transmit itself unimpaired to posterity, but each instant losing some of its integrity? It has not the vitality and force of a single living man; for a single man can bend it to his will. It is a sort of wooden gun to the people themselves. But it is not the less necessary for this; for the people must have some complicated machinery or other, and hear its din, to satisfy that idea of government which they have. Governments show thus how successfully men can be imposed on, even impose on themselves, for their own advantage. It is excellent, we must all allow. Yet this government never of itself furthered any enterprise, but by the alacrity with which it got out of its way. It does not keep the country free. It does not settle the West. It does not educate. The character inherent in the American people has done all that has been accomplished; and it would have done somewhat more, if the government had not sometimes got in its way. For government is an expedient by which men would fain succeed in letting one another alone; and, as has been said, when it is most expedient, the governed are most let alone by it. Trade and commerce, if they were not made of India rubber, would never manage to bounce over the obstacles which legislators are continually putting in their way; and, if one were to judge these men wholly by the effects of their actions, and not partly by their intentions, they would deserve to be classed and punished with those mischievous persons who put obstructions on the railroads.

But, to speak practically and as a citizen, unlike those who call themselves no-government men, I ask for, not at once no government, but at once a better government. Let every man make known what kind of government would command his respect, and that will be one step toward obtaining it. "

I say, as Americans, we should not fall prey to the fact that some have chosen to roll over and accept that these crimes against our human sovereignty are for the greater good, the cause of safety and therefore all must do so or otherwise be considered a traitor. We must remember the strengths which made us the envy of the world. We must remember that it is our constitutional rights, it is our liberty, it is our freedom which we must protect at all cost.

By the way, I signed it.

Put me down with the other 52% of the voting public in favor of PRESIDENT BUSH!

Woooohoooo...you are the r0xx0rs Isis!!

Neocon! I am for change or at last trying to make a revolutionary change for what is best for the American ppl and especially these 2 beautiful American ppl in my life......

QUE VIVA LA REVOLUCION!!! *raises fist high and proud*

Oh Paris, just because I like Bush doesn't make me and the other 52% neocons just like you and the other 48% aren't radical leftists.

Beautiful children btw. They are so cute at those ages, I have an 8 yr old girl.

I envisioned you singing "Don't cry for me America...." hehe

Omg they look like absolute angels...you two have good genes!!! You should sell babies in a box!

Just kidding of course as I am against the sale of babies...despite my capitalist upbringing.

"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance?"
-Thomas Jefferson

"Here in America we are descended in blood and in spirit from revolutionists and rebels - men and women who dare to dissent from accepted doctrine. As their heirs, may we never confuse honest dissent with disloyal subversion."
-Dwight D. Eisenhower

Let me speak here to say I am against the actions of president Bush(I want to make it clear as I've said impeachment is a silly and unachievable goal). I would "stand up", if I thought what he did went against what is wanted by the United States. Some say "Well, Conservatives are stupid"-- Well if they are, it still isn't in the spirit of America to make their opinions count less.

Besides, we can impeach him sure -- and saying that Dick magically dies -- sure. Cool. OK. But what Impeachable offense has he commited...? About the only people who could have legal beef would be the UN. Now, if you asked me to sign something to petition the UN to try and stop the War in Iraq I'd probably sign it. Hell, I dare say if Bush was impeached I'd call it unconstituitional... The minority condeming and removing a president on non existant charges? It's just not right. Not to say this war is either, but you gotta think realistically.

An Impeachment would be unjustice, improbable and would not result in a superior situaiton for the American people.

Yeah, you're right...... after all, he didn't lie about a blowjob.

Ohh let me see....setting up an unauthorized Kgb-esque system of espionage, Patriot acts one and duex, Abu Ghraib (the one we know about), the dudes still held in guantanimo bay without attorneys, did I forget something...ohh yes the what is the count now 17,000 and a bit killed in Iraq, a soveriegn nation. Injustice is a president being impeached for a blow job. Justice is a president impeached for the slaughter of our constitution and the mass murder of men, women and children...ohh and how 'bout that nasty land scandal in Texas, white water was a crime but his shady dealings go without notice.

hehe...yeah what you said...

I apologize and I realize only a few percent are neocons. Oh yeah ty for your comment about my girls. Don't you just love your baby....bring happiness and joy to our lives.