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Billybob Goodliffe
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06-14-2006 08:53
From: Kendra Bancroft
Um. I was just linking to show the many connections between the Bush Family and The Bin Laden Family. For example the fact that Bush senior was having breakie with Shafiq Bin Laden that very morning of 9-11.

The Bin Laden familys were flown out though as soon as the airspace ban was lifted on the 13th --that's not even disputable

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/09/30/archive/main313048.shtml

do you blame them for throwing them out? I would have too
Kendra Bancroft
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06-14-2006 08:55
From: Billybob Goodliffe
do you blame them for throwing them out? I would have too



I think all things considered they might have been questioned first --don't you? :rolleyes:
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Billybob Goodliffe
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06-14-2006 08:58
From: Kendra Bancroft
I think all things considered they might have been questioned first --don't you? :rolleyes:

what would be the point, they are estranged from Bin Laden anyway. they have repeatedly denounced him, disowned him and have cut him off from the family money. so naturally he's going to share his plans with his family right? :rolleyes:
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06-14-2006 09:01
From: Billybob Goodliffe
what would be the point, they are estranged from Bin Laden anyway. they have repeatedly denounced him, disowned him and have cut him off from the family money. so naturally he's going to share his plans with his family right? :rolleyes:



But they would have no idea where he might be or willingness to help the USA locate him? Questioning them couldn't possibly have helped find UBL at all. :::roll eyes:::

That doesn't pass the smell test. sorry.
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06-14-2006 09:01
From: Kendra Bancroft
Um. I was just linking to show the many connections between the Bush Family and The Bin Laden Family. For example the fact that Bush senior was having breakie with Shafiq Bin Laden that very morning of 9-11.

The Bin Laden familys were flown out though as soon as the airspace ban was lifted on the 13th --that's not even disputable

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/09/30/archive/main313048.shtml


yes that story does apear in numerous places also - just the Bush / adminsitration/ governement connection is the hard one to find probable reliable information on.


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in response to Billybob - i do not think they were "thrown out" - my guess is they had reasons to leave - perhaps as simple as the fact they thought they were in danger from Americans becuase their relative was now the most hated Man in the world from the Ameerican perspective.

Also the fact that a site is biased does not mean that its information is unbelieveable it just means that alternative sources need to compliment the information, in my opinion.

People tend to believe biased sources that agree with their veiwpoint more readily and automatically reject biased sources that do not. This is pretty normal i think.
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06-14-2006 09:01
From: Billybob Goodliffe
what would be the point, they are estranged from Bin Laden anyway. they have repeatedly denounced him, disowned him and have cut him off from the family money. so naturally he's going to share his plans with his family right? :rolleyes:



That's what I was thinking. But if that's the case, why secretly whisk them away? Did the Bush administration also know that soon after 9/11 America would become extremely xenophobic and racist towards anyone of middle eastern (and at times Italian O.o ) descent? zOMG, another conspiracy!
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Billybob Goodliffe
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06-14-2006 09:03
From: Kendra Bancroft
But they would have no idea where he might be or willingness to help the USA locate him? Questioning them couldn't possibly have helped find UBL at all. :::roll eyes:::

That doesn't pass the smell test. sorry.

they are willing have been since the Africa bombings, and we knew where he was obviously since you believe he died in Torra Borra.
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06-14-2006 09:08
From: Colette Meiji
yes that story does apear in numerous places also - just the Bush / adminsitration/ governement connection is the hard one to find probable reliable information on.


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in response to Billybob - i do not think they were "thrown out" - my guess is they had reasons to leave - perhaps as simple as the fact they thought they were in danger from Americans becuase their relative was now the most hated Man in the world from the Ameerican perspective.

Also the fact that a site is biased does not mean that its information is unbelieveable it just means that alternative sources need to compliment the information, in my opinion.

People tend to believe biased sources that agree with their veiwpoint more readily and automatically reject biased sources that do not. This is pretty normal i think.



Read up on Prince Bandar, who is often referred to affectionately by the Bush family as "Bandar Bush"
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Kendra Bancroft
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06-14-2006 09:10
From: Billybob Goodliffe
they are willing have been since the Africa bombings, and we knew where he was obviously since you believe he died in Torra Borra.



:::sigh::: their willingness has nothing to do with it.

I'm willing to be given a million dollars --so far nobody has offerred.
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Billybob Goodliffe
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06-14-2006 09:15
From: Kendra Bancroft
:::sigh::: there willingness has nothing to do with it.

I'm willing to be given a million dollars --so far nobody has offerred.

and you don't think they already where talked to? they did have to wait for 3 days before they could leave. and your own cbs site says that the majority of them were just kids in high school and college.

on a side note i love how you ignored the main point of the post of mine you quoted. way to go :rolleyes:
Lorelei Patel
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06-14-2006 10:00
From: Selador Cellardoor
We were aware of a large movement of American 'survivalists', and I assumed that it was them who were behind the attack.


What foreigners think of Americans is endlessly amusing.
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06-14-2006 10:11
From: Lorelei Patel
What foreigners think of Americans is endlessly amusing.


I don't think "amusing" is what I would go with. :) I think I would choose the word disheartening. Of course... with our foreign policy, domestic policy, and all of the policies in between... I'm not surprised.
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06-14-2006 10:24
From: Rasah Tigereye
That's what I was thinking. But if that's the case, why secretly whisk them away? Did the Bush administration also know that soon after 9/11 America would become extremely xenophobic and racist towards anyone of middle eastern (and at times Italian O.o ) descent? zOMG, another conspiracy!


The bin Laden relatives were not "secretly whisked" out of the country, and it didn't happen during the period when flights were grounded or restricted. They were on a flight on the 20th.

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/flights.asp

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Kendra Bancroft
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06-14-2006 10:27
From: Billybob Goodliffe
and you don't think they already where talked to? they did have to wait for 3 days before they could leave. and your own cbs site says that the majority of them were just kids in high school and college.

on a side note i love how you ignored the main point of the post of mine you quoted. way to go :rolleyes:



your "main point" was a silly bit of distraction.
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Kendra Bancroft
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06-14-2006 10:29
From: Sparky Widget
The bin Laden relatives were not "secretly whisked" out of the country, and it didn't happen during the period when flights were grounded or restricted. They were on a flight on the 20th.

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/flights.asp

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The snopes.com snippet uses the 9-11 commission report to "debunk" that story. I'd take that with a grain of salt.
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Billybob Goodliffe
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06-14-2006 10:34
From: Kendra Bancroft
The snopes.com snippet uses the 9-11 commission report to "debunk" that story. I'd take that with a grain of salt.

your own CBS link posted earlier says that. so grain of salt? only if theres tequila following it :p
Selador Cellardoor
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06-14-2006 10:46
See post below. This was a duplicate. I'm afraid I am having Second Life forum issues today. Makes a change from Second Life problems, I suppose.
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06-14-2006 10:48
From: Kendra Bancroft
WTF???? What the fuck is your fucking problem, Altie McAlterson?


I've already ARed the post, although I don't suppose it will do any good.

I really dislike miserable little cowards like this.
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06-14-2006 10:55
From: Kendra Bancroft

The Bin Laden familys were flown out though as soon as the airspace ban was lifted on the 13th --that's not even disputable



I thought that was common knowledge. As was the fact that evidence pointed to Saudi Arabia being the origin of the attack.
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06-14-2006 10:59
From: Lorelei Patel
What foreigners think of Americans is endlessly amusing.


I'm sure it is. We all get amusement out of what foreigners think about our countries. The wiser among us take notice of it as well.
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Kendra Bancroft
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06-14-2006 11:52
From: Billybob Goodliffe
your own CBS link posted earlier says that. so grain of salt? only if theres tequila following it :p



I was referring to the "secretly whisked out" portion. Were you aware this happened before CBS broke the story on Sept 30. 2001? Nobody else was aware of it.

Sure would have loved to see the reaction in the airports filled with stranded Americans though.
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06-14-2006 11:52
From: Selador Cellardoor
I thought that was common knowledge. As was the fact that evidence pointed to Saudi Arabia being the origin of the attack.



Currently 29% of American citizenry lacks common knowledge.
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Billybob Goodliffe
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06-14-2006 11:55
From: Kendra Bancroft
Currently 29% of American citizenry lacks common knowledge.

and i guess your in that statistic, although i'd love to know how you record that.
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06-14-2006 11:56
From: Billybob Goodliffe
and i guess your in that statistic, although i'd love to know how you record that.



Bush's approval ratings are at 29%. Ergo 29% lack common sense.
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Billybob Goodliffe
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06-14-2006 11:57
From: Kendra Bancroft
I was referring to the "secretly whisked out" portion. Were you aware this happened before CBS broke the story on Sept 30. 2001? Nobody else was aware of it.

Sure would have loved to see the reaction in the airports filled with stranded Americans though.

where did secretly whisked out of the country come from? they chartered a plane and left once the travel ban was lifted
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