9/11 Pentagon Strike curiosities

http://www.pentagonstrike.co.uk/flash.htm

I found this bringing up a lot of suspicious questions myself as well.....

Ever watched this one?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8260059923762628848

Uh huh. So, what do you suppose happened to that plane, its passengers and its crew, none of whom were ever heard from again?

Conspiracy theorist never cease to amaze me.

Why would the government lie about what attacked the Pentagon?

Briana Dawson

For those of you who prefer rational thought to hysteria and conjecture...

I have seen both videos before and it does make one think very hard. Common sense alone with no knowledge of plane crashes would make one question the fact that even the hole in the wall of the Pentagon wasn't made by the supposed plane that crashed into it. I think everyone needs to watch the videos with an open mind and decide for yourselves.


Never underestimate the Government and what they can do for their own benefit...

I'm not conspiracy theorist, just that after watching it I did ponder some things about it, particularily the "Hmm, yeah, actually, I don't remember seeing any wreckage either..." bit.

That benefit being...?

I never underestimate the power of delusional thinking and paranoia, myself.

Here are some other sites/articles dealing with the topic.

http://www.oilempire.us/pentagon-strike.html
http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/boeing.htm
http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/pentagontrap.html
http://www.flight77.info/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4987716.stm

There are many others out there, mostly along the no-plane line. Articles from the science mags debunking the no-plane/government conspiracy claims seem to have fallen way back in the rankings. If you find one, please, post it. I only found this one so far:

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?articleID=000DA0E2-1E15-128A-9E1583414B7F0000

And as Lorelei posted, Snopes is another source for consideration. Been following 9/11 happenings there since the infamous "doomed tourist" photo made the rounds.

There is, of course, a vast amount of footage of wreckage, which always gets disputed by conspiraloons saying "oh but... er... that's not the right fan type for that! no, really it isn't!"

Honestly, I can't even be bothered to argue about it any more.

I don't really know as I don't think like the Government, but it could be for the same reasons they covered up Roswell among other things in the past. I'm not delusional or paranoid thanks though. I'm looking at the inconsistencies that are more than apparent.

What really pisses me off about these things isn't that it challenges the party line or what not. It's that it's a smack in the face to anyone who lost a family member, friend or coworker in the tragedy. There were 58 passengers, four flight attendants and two pilots. I dare you to tell the families of these people that the plane never crashed, that their loved ones are just hiding out somewhere in some sort of witness protection program.

Heh. Understandably, a lot of people are tired of seeing this topic crop up in forums. Still, clearly there's an interest in it for some, myself included. I have a very keen interest in knowing the absolute, irrefutable truth of what occured. I may never get that wish granted, but it remains a strong desire.

why wouldn't they?

I'm sure they're quite dead. The question is how did they die?

You propose they lie for no reason at all? For shits and giggles? Spinning a lie takes more effort than saying what really happened. Again, why would they lie?

Ah. So, the big mean government wanted these people dead. Why not load them on a plane and crash it in a building, then? What's to be gained by killing them some other way and then staging a plane crash and saying that's how they died? And again, for what reason? These theories make no sense. Show me the logic here? Or barring that, at least the motivation.

Too much damage possible. Too unpredictable.

Seriously though --I only brought it up because I detest the point of view that "our Government would never do such a thing" as a reason for it not happening.

I actually don't dwell in conspiracy land often --theres no need to. This Government at the moment is untrustworthy and leaning in a decidely Fascist tilt.

I don't have to believe in faked plane crashes to denounce Bush and his rapid band of neo-con vultures, hence it doesnt matter to me about the questions of the Pentagon Crash.

I do, however, wonder why the Government hasnt been able to show us clear and unambiguous evidence of it. I also wonder how the hell a commercial plane known to have been hijacked reached the worlds most protected airspace.

Frankly I believe all the planes hit there intended targets --I also believe that certain rogue elements of the Government let it happen on purpose.

Questions of missing planes and too small holes are disinformation tactics that obscure the obvious.

While I disagree with your final assesment (why attribute malice to something better explained by ineptitude), that sounds a lot more rational to me.

The government don't feel the need to show anyone evidence of anything. As far as they're concerned, their word should be good enough. You will never get anything more out of them, and there are a million reasons why they might want to conceal details - general fuckups, incompetencies, even LIHOP or simple reflexive lying.

Problems with this sort of thing come out through people doing serious, proper investigation, getting hold of unassailable facts; people like Seymour Hersh say. Not somebody with a flash video that I first saw in 2001. You don't get anything like this from Joe Vialls (well, he's dead anyway, and good riddance, the anti-semitic old fucker) or Alex Jones, because they'll believe and publicise any old shite. They might as well be working for the CIA.

The purpose of this stuff is to draw attention away from the real, documented, clear crimes of the governments we've supposedly voted in, and concentrate dissent into easily-dismissable forms. Hello! The government has invaded a fucking country based on lies! And this stuff about holographic planes and missile pods just makes stating the truth look stupid by association.

exactly --though my heart tells me LIHOP in order to justify invasion

What's wrong with the hole in the side of the Pentagon? Remember the Pentagon is made out of very thick, reinforced concrete. The section that was struck had just been retrofitted to make it bomb resistant. So of course a plane isn't going to do the same amount of damage as it would to a regular building. Most of the energy generated by the impact went into the plane, which explains why all the pieces were very, very small. Have you ever seen what happens to a bullet when it's fired at a piece of hardened steel?

Never underestimate the power of gullibility and ignorance.

Our own military shot down the plane, I think that's common knowledge, and they hid the fact of blowing up the Pentagon with a car bomb. Whoopy farkin DO.

Move along, nothing more to see.

Well, I must admit, I went into conspiracy mode when in NY, a few hours after the impact of the planes into the towers and the subsequent inferno, a passport belonging to one of the terrorists was miraculously discovered on the pavement a short distance from ground zero. Not only that, it was undamaged enough for the owner to be instantly recognised.

Most conspiracy theories breed off the maxim "never unestimate the power of stupid people in large groups"