15-yr-old Blind and Deaf Dog Kicked To Death

Again, "Nolan", your friend didn't go to jail for shooting a burglar.

Careful Nolan, this guy knows everything

Well no. This is wrong. A stranger in your house with your family upstairs is not a reasonably percienved threat. If that strnager has a knif or gun, then maybe, but just entering the house it is not likely to sustain a self-defense or defense of others, or crime prevention.

Texas, I think has some fairly liberal home shooting laws, the most liberal in the nation, and even then I do not think shoot-on site in the home is one of them.

Also in fairness the appropriate force is true in general, but I think if you are attacked in your home, deadly force is authorized, even if the guy comes at you with only his fists. I don't remember enough about the state of the law in various juristdictions to adress this subject more completely.

You can be sure when it comes to homicide, even in self defense, the esay answer is not likely to be the correct one.

this act by this man was reprehensible. I feel sad for the dog, and even sadder for the man whose life is so miserable he could perform an arbitrary act of cruelty like this.

Psst. Jake, Hurry up and fix your spelling errors. If you don't spell something right he just disregards what you say and calls you a moron.

MJ

Down with MJ Hathor.

Dear lord must I again go back to ending every post with a disclaimer that I cannot type, cannot spell and cannot be bothered, for a forum post, to check my spelling. If the quality of thought was entirely dependent on the ability spell, then our lives would be truly shallow.

o rly?

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/aug2003/mart-a02.shtml

Oh man. The first link is about a pretty famous story in England. Not America.

In the second link, here is the relevant paragraph: ""I would do it again, because you never know what these people are capable of," said Mark Freamon, 45, who faces weapons charges because cops say the Browning Challenger II semi-automatic handgun he used to protect his Inwood home is unlicensed."

Not arrested for shooting the burglar, arrested for having an unlicensed gun.

Your third link barely has any information, and it sounds like it was something other than a burglary. It also says that the shooter may be charged.


You'd think it'd be pretty easy to find some good links to stories about burglars getting shot and the person that shot them going to jail for shooting them, but you can't find any. I can't either. Because it doesn't happen.

When did England become a US state, "Nolan"?

"Convicted killer Tony Martin has been released from jail and afforded a hero’s welcome by much of the media."

Well, that's promising. It was always confusing to me that England would have such an idiotic law against attacking people that have broken into your home. Europe has a lot of weird ideas about how things work and it's been sad watching England slide in that direction.

You can put quotes around my name if you like, it doesn't have the same impact, but that's ok, I am not surprised that "I know you are but what am I" is one of your skills. Nearly everyone knows who I am - Nolan. That's quite a different case than some "newbie" who shows up in off-topic and trolls like a fiend from the get-go "Stankleberry". Yeah, you're an alt, it's quite obvious.

Now, people who generalize, such as you, about things like "how it is in America", or "how it is in England", are invariably misinformed, overly nationalistic simpletons, who cannot see beyond the end of their own nose.

Now, since you're the one claiming that people "in America" can't be jailed for battery, assault, or manslaughter, for wounding or killing burglars, you need to prove it to us, and not vice-versa.

Now, please enlighten us, economic... err... inquiring minds would like to know.

I would like a little more than "because I said so". You see, I know a guy who went to state prison for 18 months for shooting a burglar, you can call me a liar if you like, it matters not, because I know him, and though he was my friend, I think that he was wrong for shooting a guy for trying to steal a vcr. Cops are almost as wrong when they engage in high speed chases over auto theft, and the perp(s) or other innocent drivers are killed or wounded because cops regress back into the "sheriff's gotta git his man" mode. Property can be replaced, lives can't.

Maybe you'd reconsider if you had a troubled friend or relative who was killed over a 50 dollar vcr? I dunno that you even subscribe to this line of reasoning your claiming, I think you just like to argue. Which goes back to the whole alt troll thing I suppose...

Hahahaha, man, I love it when people are really sure they're right about something and they are totally and completely wrong. You are paranoid, "Nolan". I started coming here for the first time a week or two ago. I am not trolling, I am just bringing some intelligence to the threads here. You just call it trolling so you can dismiss it and not have to accept that you believe in a lot of silly things that don't make sense.

Haha, now that you see that you can't find any links that have any information about anyone in the US going to prison for shooting a burglar, suddenly it's my job to find information that doesn't exist. I looked, and if it ever happened it would be quite easy to find links about it. When someone breaks into your home in the US, it is acceptable to shoot that person. That's how it will always be, "Nolan".

Speaking in absolutes, without anything to back it up other than, "because this is the way it is in America is", is laughable.

Bringing some intelligence? Puhhhhleeeeaase.

Stop trolling, "Nolan".

Why do you keep putting his name in quotes?

coco

Of course its rare that anyone goes to jail for shotting a burglar, burglary is a crime: breaking and entering the dwelling of another with the intention of conducting a felony therein (it used to be during the night time but most statutes revised it). Thus if a guy is breaking in my house and I can reasonably prove he was intenting to commit a felony, like murder or rape or mayhem or battery or even felony assualt, among others then its very likely I can establish a reasonable fear of harm to myself or others (or even crime-prevention).

But you are starting with the assumption that we know the guy is a burglarlar. If its just some guy breaking in the house to get out of the rain, then you are in trouble if you shoot him.

OMG PERSONAL ATTACK!!!!


<edited because Dingleberry isn't worth me lowering myself>

from another thread

from this thread

Classic

Because he's trolling for a fight

These threads are amusing. We haven't had such a sophomoric troller in these forums in so long, no one is quite sure what to do with him.

~Ulrika~

That's a personal attack!