15-yr-old Blind and Deaf Dog Kicked To Death

Uh oh, it's a socialist that doesn't yet realize that socialism is a failure. The future is not going to be easy for you, buddy. Good luck.

This, is true. I am able to read the posts of someone who advocates killing helpless dogs and shooting anyone who enters there home without consent and see them for the kind of person they really are. Most people can do that.

I see from this that you clearly support the killing of all dogs, you anti-American traitor. Why don't you go back to Cuba if you hate freedom that much?

Name for me one type of government that hasn't failed if you dont mind please, not a country, but a singular government type that has not crashed and burned at least once yet.

FACIST!

Your mind reading powers are not very good. You should get a refund.

I never advocated killing helpless dogs. I was just trying to help the people that read a little story, with no source that I could find, understand the rules of America and how they work. You just made up a bunch of crazy stuff in your mind and assume that I believe in those things. That's pretty silly.

Keep this thread on track folks. This has nothing to do with killing people.

But you did not oppose it, thats the same thing..... "You are either with us, or against us"

I was just trying to bring some sanity to a thread filled with people talking about stringing the guy up because they read some petition that didn't have very much information. It also didn't have any link to a news story about this that I could find.

I like dogs very much, and I wouldn't ever hurt one unless I had to, but if some strange animal came into my yard and my family was there and I thought there was a chance that it might attack someone, I would do what was necessary to prevent that before it happened.

Dogs are not people.

One would brandish the gun first. Suggest strongly they leave. Perhaps call the police.

Having the gun automatically puts you one leg up on the intruder, unless he, too, has a gun, with which he threatens your life, in which case you would be in your rights to shoot him.

Even so, you would still have to explain all that.

You don't get to just shoot whoever comes into your house and ask questions later, no.

coco

Puberty does such cruel things to the human mind.

~Ulrika~

Sanity?

You first need to be informed of reality, before you even approach sanity, my friend.

This "In America" line of crap your putting out is wrong.

Do you get it? Wrong. You may not shoot someone for entering your home without permission. You may shoot them if you have reason to believe (and can prove) that your life, or that of another resident is in danger. I had a friend go to prison in 1985 for shooting an intruder who was trying to burglarize his home. You have no clue what you are talking about.

On the dog incident, it's despicable, and that guy should be punished to the full extent of the law. If it was his neighbor's dog, which it sounds like it was, he knew the condition of that dog. He is a piece of shit for doing what he did. All he had to do, if the dog was bothering him so terribly much, was call the owner(s) or Animal Control. Acting like a big, tough, macho man to impress his guests by kicking an aged, blind and deaf animal is sick. Give some folks a couple of beers and they think they are king of the world, or that they can shoot someone for just entering their home. I'll bet this idiot shares your misguided belief about that too, "Stankleberry".

Well, actually, far as the "defending yourself" if someone breaks onto your property, no, you cannot do anything you want. Hell, if you do anything besides call the police, you really run the risk of getting into trouble yourself.

There have been cases of burglars breaking into homes and injuring themselves in the process winning lawsuits.. Two examples, one guy was breaking in through a skylight, slipped, fell through it, cut himself on the glass, sued and won, another knocked a knife off a counter and it pierced his foot, he sued and won. Now, granted, they were convicted of breaking and entering, but they still won for being injured while in the home of another.

Far as the dog goes.. witnesses saw the man kick the dog once, "like a football." The dog wasn't a big one, nor was it much of a threat.. i'm sure i'd be afraid of a blind deaf dog hurting me, chasing me around the yard and tearing me to bits, yea.. sure.

Would you really be afraid of a small-medium dog that's blind and deaf and 15? At 15, most dogs arn't terribly fast, or threatening in any way. Hell, at 15, most dogs teeth arn't really all that great, can't even look frightening if they tried. My roommate has a dog that just turned 15, same size for the most part, going deaf and blind. Even when he gets excited and wants to play rough, he's not at all intimidating.

I have a feeling there had been an ongoing thing between the owners and the neighbor, and the neighbor knew the dog, so took out his negativity for the owners on the dog or something.

No, I'm right. You're wrong. When someone breaks into your home, that's all the "reason to believe that your life is in danger" that you need. You don't know what you're talking about. Your friend didn't go to prison for shooting someone that broke into his home. You're either lying or they lied to you or you misunderstood.

Look at the little story you've put together in your mind about the dog incident. You made almost all of that crap up. The petition had barely any information about the incident, but you are sure that the dog was nice and there was no reason for the guy to be concerned. You're also sure that he kicked the dog really hard. You want to hate him, without knowing anything about what happened. Why, "Nolan"?

Are you guys seeing a link to a story about this beyond what's written in the petition, because you seem to be talking about things that weren't written in the very small amount of information on the petition page. There is no reference to the dog being kicked "like a football". There is no reference to the size of the dog. How do you know it wasn't a big dog? How do you know that it was obvious that the dog was blind and deaf? That seems to just be what the dog's owners are saying to the person that made this weird petition. You don't know how strong the dog was, it could have been very scary.

Why are you making up all kinds of stuff that you don't know?

You want some frickin facts, Skankleberry? Somebody preventing you from Googling?

Here's some frickin damn FACTS, Skankleberry, from the Westchester Journal News:


Man charged in death of old dog

By BARBARA LIVINGSTON NACKMAN
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THE JOURNAL NEWS

(Original publication: June 7, 2005)
PUTNAM VALLEY — A 40-year-old Putnam Valley man is due in Town Court on Thursday to answer a felony charge of animal cruelty after he was accused of kicking his neighbor's 15-year-old blind and deaf dog so severely that it later died.

Roxi, a 45-pound German shepherd mixed breed, wandered into Frank Aquino's yard during a Memorial Day barbeque, police said. The dog died a few hours after the attack.

A witness said Aquino had "walked over to the dog and kicked (it) like a football" in the abdomen, said Capt. William McNamara of the Putnam County Sheriff's Office.

The arthritic dog had staggered to another neighbor's yard and died under a tree, where owners Lisa and William Sampson found their beloved pet.

They had no idea what had happened to their dog until Alfred Pizzuto, the neighbor who witnessed the incident, realized this was the Sampsons' dog, and the story came together.

"To viciously kick a dog is beyond words," said Lisa Sampson, 39. "She was such a sweet animal. We'd come in the door and her tail would be wagging. Now she is gone, and in such a horrible way."

Pizzuto, a guest at the barbeque, told police he and his wife, Michelle, were shocked and left Aquino's house, saying they didn't want to socialize with someone who did such a thing.

They weren't familiar with the dog and did not know where it went after the injury.

After the attack, Pizzuto said "the dog tumbled several times" and "then slowly got up and walked away," according to the police report. Deputy John Wynne handled the investigation and arrested Aquino on Sunday evening. He was charged aggravated cruelty to an animal.

Attempts to reach Aquino and Pizzuto yesterday were not successful.

In the past four years, there have been some striking cases of animal abuse in the region.

Putnam Valley Dog Control Officer Patricia Smith said it was vital that Pizzuto filed a complaint.

"You can't let people get away with this," she said. "If this is what he does to a neighbor's dog, what does he do to strays? How does he treat people?"

She said she periodically gets calls of inhumane treatment of animals but said people too often don't want to file a formal complaint.

Lisa Sampson said she was particularly shocked by the harm done to the dog she had raised since it was a puppy because she and Aquino both attended Mahopac High School together and grew up in the neighborhood. Lisa, whose maiden name was Eichen, was raised in her current house on Somerset Lane, which she and her husband, Bill, bought from her parents.

Aquino grew up in a house down the block, where his parents still live, and now lives across Somerset Lane from the Sampsons.

"We knew each other. If he had a problem, he could have come to me," she said.

She said she walked Roxi on a leash and since the birth of her son, Dylan, seven months ago, she got into a routine of walking Roxi with the stroller a few times a day. On Memorial Day, she said, Roxi was running on another neighbor's lawn and got out of sight, probably attracted by all the outdoor cooking smells.

The incident is reported to have happened about 4 p.m. Sampson said she found Roxi about 6:30 p.m.

Aquino was arraigned Sunday evening by Town Justice Louis DiCarlo. He was released without bail, but the judge issued temporary protective orders directing Aquino to stay away from the Pizzutos and the Sampsons.

Aquino entered a not-guilty plea, court personnel said. If convicted, he could face up to two years in jail and a maximum $5,000 fine.

Hahaha, calm down dude. I was just wondering where everyone was getting all of this information.

Wow, Coco levelled up in forum posting!

great job Coco, I guess battling the forum regulars has given you the XP to use your special on Dingleberry

**Quoted for Truth**

Here's some more frickin facts, from the Putnam County Courier:

PV man pleads guilty to causing death of dog
By: Eric Gross
10/20/2005




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The Sampson's beloved pet, a 15-year-old mixed breed German shepherd, was found dead in a wooded area near the family's home on Memorial Day. Witnesses told police they saw Aquino, a 40-year-old United Parcel deliveryman, give the dog a violent kick after it had wandered onto his property during a holiday barbecue.
Roxi got up and walked off the property, according to the police reports, only to be found dead later in the day beneath a tree.
Police originally charged Aquino with causing Roxi's death, a felony that carried a maximum two-year sentence. The dog's remains were exhumed from her owner's yard at the direction of the district attorney's office when prosecutors were notified of the case. District Attorney Kevin Wright said the exhumation was ordered so that a "necropsy could be performed to medically establish cause of death to support the felony charge. The results of the forensic examination due to the intervening deterioration of Roxi's remains was not legally conclusive as to the cause of death standard required in criminal cases."
Wright told the Putnam County Courier: "This coupled with the witness accounts of Roxi leaving Aquino's property by walking away and being unaccounted for for several hours made it impossible to sustain the felony charge that Aquino had intended to kill or seriously injure the dog with the aggravated cruelty that is required by the felony charge."
Sampson admitted that while she and her family wanted the felony count, "there was too much reasonable doubt. There is no question in our minds that he did this. He admitted to it. There were 10 different ways he could have handled this but he chose violence. That's the sad part."
Sampson called Roxi a "member of the family. It has been very difficult for us all but we have just adopted another dog. We wanted to help out a victim of Katrina. Foster families were being sought. The dog we got was from a foster home in Tennessee and by taking him, we made a space for a Katrina dog to go into his space in the home."
Sampson said the family's new pet is a "lot different from Roxi. I didn't expect them to be alike but it's nice to have a dog around the house again. We still miss our beloved Roxi!"
Wright called animal cruelty a "senseless and serious crime." He urged anyone with animals victimized by such cruelty to immediately notify authorities so that "critical medical evidence and proof can be preserved in a manner capable of presentation in court."
Aquino pleaded guilty before Putnam Valley Justice Louis DiCarlo and was freed without bail pending sentencing early next year. Aquino faces up to one year in jail plus fines totaling $1,000. Wright said Aquino copped the guilty plea without any promises or commitments from the court concerning the sentence.
The case was prosecuted by Assistant District Attorney Robert Noah while defense counsel Joseph Tock of Mahopac represented Aquino.

You beat me to it, Coco.

And this Commentary:








Requiem for Roxi and lost dogs everywhere

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(Original publication: June 12, 2005)
Roxi was a friendly German shepherd mix from Putnam Valley who died as she lived. She trusted people.

It seems everybody in the neighborhood loved Roxi, except one sour man.

According to the charges filed against him, Frank Aquino was holding a Memorial Day barbecue when Roxi reportedly committed the innocent but fatal error of wandering into his backyard. Like all dogs whose noses are keen for pleasant, wind-blown odors, she may have been merely seeking a kindly handout. Half a grilled frankfurter and a pat on the head and she might have happily gone on her way.

But to the horror of some guests who witnessed the event, Aquino, 40, greeted Roxi by allegedly kicking her in the abdomen. The blow was so violent that the 45-pound dog staggered off, crawled under a tree in another neighbor's yard and died a few hours later.

Acts of cruelty such as this are inexplicably shocking. But Roxi's death has caused even greater than usual public outrage because she was ancient, frail and utterly harmless.

Indeed, Roxi was 15 years old and arthritic, a defenseless senior citizen among canines. Though she could see all right, her owners, Bill and Lisa Sampson, said she was practically deaf. They had to shout at the top of their lungs for her to hear their calls.

Roxi's photo accompanied a story in The Journal News last week and that touching picture probably did more to break hearts and boil blood than anything else. Those ears, those eyes. Good God.

Lisa Sampson told me she has received an outpouring of sympathy, some of it from unexpected places.

"You know what?" she said. "Today I got a card from my mail carrier, saying how upset she was. She said mail carriers generally don't like dogs. I'm just overwhelmed by how many nice people there are, just when you start to lose faith."

Aquino, meanwhile, has been getting threatening phone calls. Appearing briefly in Putnam Valley Town Court on Thursday, he pleaded not guilty to aggravated animal cruelty, a felony that could bring up to two years in prison and a $5,000 fine.

After entering his plea, he briskly left the town office building and, without comment, climbed into an Oldsmobile SUV and drove off.

Losing a dog under any circumstances is an ordeal, especially for children. I was reminded of that when just minutes later I scanned the town's bulletin board and saw a reward posted for a missing 2-year-old Sheltie who was last seen on Sunken Mine Road. Notices like that are common, no matter where you go.

One of my favorite meditations on dog ownership was written by Henry Beetle Hough, the late editor of the famous old newspaper weekly, The Vineyard Gazette. In his book, "To the Harbor Light," Hough, who was a widower, described the relationship he had with his collie, Graham.

It was, he wrote, a symbiotic arrangement in which man and dog had a mutual understanding and shared some common interests but always "live in parallel, with some currents of air and mystery between us."

"Many husbands and wives succeed with marriage in much the same way," he wrote.

At the same time, Hough cautioned about thinking too much about dogs in human terms.

And yet, Lisa Sampson told me that Roxi had a smile. And I knew what she meant. My dog has that happy grin, too, and I suspect that it is owed to the wonder of natural selection going back to early caveman days when the smiling dogs were the ones who were allowed to come in from the cold and share the fire and food. We see ourselves, or at least our long-lost carefree innocence, reflected in the faces of our smiling dogs.

However you look at it, kicking a dog at a barbecue is behavior beneath any human, even a Neanderthal.

The Sampsons, who have a 7-month-old son, said they wanted the case against Aquino to go forward and they wanted him prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. More than that, though, they want to remember the good times they had with Roxi.

"We can't be angry every day of our lives," Bill Sampson said.

They recalled how Roxi would snuggle with the baby and how she would open her own wrapped presents at Christmas.

Roxi would fetch. When Lisa Sampson was learning to play golf, Roxi retrieved some but not all the golf balls, only the ones Lisa had touched by hand because they carried her scent.

Like many dogs with shepherd blood, Roxi hated getting wet. Nevertheless, in the hottest days of summer, she would allow them to briefly dip her into the cooling waters of a backyard pool. Roxi probably had some beagle in her, too, because she liked chasing rabbits, they said.

The kids in the neighborhood loved her and believed she was part of their stable universe. One little girl recently got a dog of her own, which she picked out because it looked like Roxi.

It's often said that dogs don't have transcendent souls, but I suppose if you ever loved a dog like Roxi you might question the conventional wisdom.

The Sampsons laid their dog to rest in a grave they dug in the backyard. Lisa Sampson's dad is constructing a marker. It will say, "Our Beloved Roxi."


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Now that's just a Googling START.


coco

I asked a few times where people were getting all of the extra information, none of them said anything about Googling it. I don't think most of them did.

I dont hate him. Hate is reserved for people with limited intellectual capacity. Like those who feel it's justified to sacrifice life before property. Given your record so far here on these forums "Stankleberry", I am sure you can identify.

You're pretty good at making up "legal facts". I'm sure my friend who was put in prison for shooting a burglar would love to have you as his lawyer.

Now, troll:



Buh-bye, mmmmmkay?