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Champie Jack

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12-29-2006 00:20

From: Michi Lumin

Not always. Failure protection equipment doesn't always work when it's under stress. We've had refrigerator-sized UPSes fail in spectacular (and dangerous) ways, and diesel gens fail to kick on. And *nothing* can protect absolutely from a direct adjacent lightning hit. When it's a hardware failure, it's unlikely that the issue was Linden dropping the ball.

In either case, even if their clustered storage threw a node, it's just a matter of inconvenience most likely.

(edit: What elaina said. Seen plenty fail - especially if the grid in SF has been shaky for a few days.)

but it doesn't seem to be related to the power outages, now does it?

Sukit Dailey

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12-29-2006 00:21

The Santa Cruz mountains seem to be the only big problem. (about 75 miles away) Marin (much closer) is probably mostly back up, just some people in those fancy houses tucked away far from most of the population probably. Mendocino is off the map (>150 miles)

If these servers are in SF or San Jose or Oakland or Livermore or Walnut Creek there seems to be no power issue.

Jesseaitui Petion

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12-29-2006 00:21

la de da la de da

Sukit Dailey

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12-29-2006 00:22

I'm just correcting your misinformation ... chill

Michi Lumin

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12-29-2006 00:23

From: Champie Jack

but it doesn't seem to be related to the power outages, now does it?

You got me, Champie. I'm a liar, we're all wrong, and LL is cackling maniacally while their henchmen drop screwdrivers into equipment on purpose.

There's silly string being shot about, too.

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Dargon Pacer

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12-29-2006 00:23

This may seem like a silly question..but if the power was out, wouldn't this website be down too?

I think forums.secondlife.com and secondlife.com are at least hosted in the same building(if not the same box)...

I mean, I would hate to think that with all the stuff they have to deal with, LL was paying some company in Vancouver for domain hosting.

If the power DOES go out, and we are logged into SL, the client would probably give us some different message..probably nothing close to 'Asset server is about to bite the dust! Run for your lives!'..

I would think it would be a more polite message ..like '..uh..who turned out the lights?', or possibly, 'Client has lost communication with the server..WHAT BUTTON DID YOU PUSH! OMG! LOOK WHAT YOU DID!!!'.

Jesseaitui Petion

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12-29-2006 00:24

I don`t recall anyone blaming this on power outages.

(Not directed to any one post in particular)

Winter Ventura

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12-29-2006 00:25

"we are in the midst of cleaning up before we re-open."
You know.. sweeping up the confetti, picking up all the styrofoam cups and cake plates.. Taking the paper tablecloth off the long table, Pulling the streamers down...

Oh, and cleaning the current grid monkey's chair.. and giving him a quick shower and a fresh pair of undies.

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Michi Lumin

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12-29-2006 00:26

From: Winter Ventura

"we are in the midst of cleaning up before we re-open."
You know.. sweeping up the confetti, picking up all the styrofoam cups and cake plates.. Taking the paper tablecloth off the long table, Pulling the streamers down...

Oh, and cleaning the current grid monkey's chair.. and giving him a quick shower and a fresh pair of undies.

What happened to the kazoos?

Xixya Gainsbourg

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12-29-2006 00:28

From: Michi Lumin

What happened to the kazoos?

They went up our butts with all the other attachments with the grid crashed. lol Sorry, might not want to play with those.

Devian Ayres

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12-29-2006 00:28

From: Michi Lumin

What happened to the kazoos?

Everybody kept them, of course.

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Jesseaitui Petion

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12-29-2006 00:31

From: Xixya Gainsbourg

They went up our butts with all the other attachments with the grid crashed. lol Sorry, might not want to play with those.

You`d be surprised...

Kitty Barnett

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12-29-2006 00:33

http://secondlife.com/community/status

"404: File Not Found"

Not encouraging

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Winter Ventura

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12-29-2006 00:38

I hope they saved me a piece of cake.

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Lilliput Boshops

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12-29-2006 00:39

From: Elaina Bainbridge

and what time exactly is 00:20 pm on a 24 hr clock?

20 minutes after midnight.

Incidently, I'm done showering now, so you can re-open the grid. Thanks.

Edit: oops...missed the "pm" part.

Lilliput Boshops

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12-29-2006 00:43

From: Lilliput Boshops

20 minutes after midnight.

Incidently, I'm done showering now, so you can re-open the grid. Thanks.

Edit: oops...missed the "pm" part.

(one minute later) Gee. Thanks. Talk about service!

Jesseaitui Petion

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12-29-2006 00:43

00:39am PST] Recovery and clean up complete - grid is now open.

cinda Hoodoo

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Good & bad news

12-29-2006 00:49

Well im in & still have money, good news, bad news, do believe the asset server is very broken, and everyones gonna be very bald for awhile

Winter Ventura

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12-29-2006 00:53

I logged in with one shoe, and the alert "the attempt to create the object failed" (or something like that.. it wasn't something I had ever seen before). I tried to rewear the other shoe.. but nothing happened.. so I decided to relog.

Logins disabled.

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Daphne Molinari

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12-29-2006 00:58

yup

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Kitty Barnett

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12-29-2006 00:59

An extremely helpful Linden told me to clear cache.... which I'd already done before I logged on... and to relog... after the logins were disabled.

I don't think half of them even knows what goes on over there.

Eddie Taft

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12-29-2006 01:00

consider urself lucky with just shoe gone...i seem to be missing an entire Island

(((

Winter Ventura

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12-29-2006 01:03

I should clarify...

in terms of prim attachments...
I was ONLY wearing a shoe.

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Vladamier Szymborska

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12-29-2006 01:03

I truely wish LL would fix what they have out before creating new updates. To be a paying customer this is just bad business. I am truely wondering if the monthly amout is worth the issues. I left a game before because the devs messed it up. I truely enjoy this game. LL please start to fix what is already available before creating new versions.

Dargon Pacer

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12-29-2006 01:03

I was working on a script just before the crash, and I discovered I was unable to save the script..
After it came back up, I tried again and got the same error..

(from DEBUG console)
"WARNING: Alert: There was a problem uploading the text for a script due to the following reasons: Asset requests failed. Please try again later."

Sounds like might not be quite fixed after all..
[yawn]...giving up for the night.

Good luck all!

Central Hardware Failing?
Champie Jack Registered User Join date: 6 Dec 2003 Posts: 1,156	12-29-2006 00:20 From: Michi Lumin Not always. Failure protection equipment doesn't always work when it's under stress. We've had refrigerator-sized UPSes fail in spectacular (and dangerous) ways, and diesel gens fail to kick on. And nothing can protect absolutely from a direct adjacent lightning hit. When it's a hardware failure, it's unlikely that the issue was Linden dropping the ball. In either case, even if their clustered storage threw a node, it's just a matter of inconvenience most likely. (edit: What elaina said. Seen plenty fail - especially if the grid in SF has been shaky for a few days.) but it doesn't seem to be related to the power outages, now does it?
Sukit Dailey Registered User Join date: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 8	12-29-2006 00:21 The Santa Cruz mountains seem to be the only big problem. (about 75 miles away) Marin (much closer) is probably mostly back up, just some people in those fancy houses tucked away far from most of the population probably. Mendocino is off the map (>150 miles) If these servers are in SF or San Jose or Oakland or Livermore or Walnut Creek there seems to be no power issue.
Jesseaitui Petion king of polynesia :P Join date: 2 Jan 2006 Posts: 2,175	12-29-2006 00:21 la de da la de da
Sukit Dailey Registered User Join date: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 8	12-29-2006 00:22 I'm just correcting your misinformation ... chill
Michi Lumin Sharp and Pointy Join date: 14 Oct 2003 Posts: 1,793	12-29-2006 00:23 From: Champie Jack but it doesn't seem to be related to the power outages, now does it? You got me, Champie. I'm a liar, we're all wrong, and LL is cackling maniacally while their henchmen drop screwdrivers into equipment on purpose. There's silly string being shot about, too. You win 10 points, beat the end boss, and advance to the next level.
Dargon Pacer Registered User Join date: 2 Jul 2005 Posts: 19	12-29-2006 00:23 This may seem like a silly question..but if the power was out, wouldn't this website be down too? I think forums.secondlife.com and secondlife.com are at least hosted in the same building(if not the same box)... I mean, I would hate to think that with all the stuff they have to deal with, LL was paying some company in Vancouver for domain hosting. If the power DOES go out, and we are logged into SL, the client would probably give us some different message..probably nothing close to 'Asset server is about to bite the dust! Run for your lives!'.. I would think it would be a more polite message ..like '..uh..who turned out the lights?', or possibly, 'Client has lost communication with the server..WHAT BUTTON DID YOU PUSH! OMG! LOOK WHAT YOU DID!!!'.
Jesseaitui Petion king of polynesia :P Join date: 2 Jan 2006 Posts: 2,175	12-29-2006 00:24 I don`t recall anyone blaming this on power outages. (Not directed to any one post in particular)
Winter Ventura Eclectic Randomness Join date: 18 Jul 2006 Posts: 2,579	12-29-2006 00:25 "we are in the midst of cleaning up before we re-open." You know.. sweeping up the confetti, picking up all the styrofoam cups and cake plates.. Taking the paper tablecloth off the long table, Pulling the streamers down... Oh, and cleaning the current grid monkey's chair.. and giving him a quick shower and a fresh pair of undies. _____________________ ● Inworld Store: http://slurl.eclectic-randomness.com ● Website: http://www.eclectic-randomness.com ● Twitter: @WinterVentura
Michi Lumin Sharp and Pointy Join date: 14 Oct 2003 Posts: 1,793	12-29-2006 00:26 From: Winter Ventura "we are in the midst of cleaning up before we re-open." You know.. sweeping up the confetti, picking up all the styrofoam cups and cake plates.. Taking the paper tablecloth off the long table, Pulling the streamers down... Oh, and cleaning the current grid monkey's chair.. and giving him a quick shower and a fresh pair of undies. What happened to the kazoos?
Xixya Gainsbourg Registered User Join date: 2 Sep 2006 Posts: 23	12-29-2006 00:28 From: Michi Lumin What happened to the kazoos? They went up our butts with all the other attachments with the grid crashed. lol Sorry, might not want to play with those.
Devian Ayres Don't look behind you. Join date: 28 Dec 2006 Posts: 24	12-29-2006 00:28 From: Michi Lumin What happened to the kazoos? Everybody kept them, of course. _____________________ vBulletin Message Sorry, you can not add yourself to your own ignore list.
Jesseaitui Petion king of polynesia :P Join date: 2 Jan 2006 Posts: 2,175	12-29-2006 00:31 From: Xixya Gainsbourg They went up our butts with all the other attachments with the grid crashed. lol Sorry, might not want to play with those. You`d be surprised...
Kitty Barnett Registered User Join date: 10 May 2006 Posts: 5,586	12-29-2006 00:33 http://secondlife.com/community/status "404: File Not Found" Not encouraging .
Winter Ventura Eclectic Randomness Join date: 18 Jul 2006 Posts: 2,579	12-29-2006 00:38 I hope they saved me a piece of cake. _____________________ ● Inworld Store: http://slurl.eclectic-randomness.com ● Website: http://www.eclectic-randomness.com ● Twitter: @WinterVentura
Lilliput Boshops Registered User Join date: 25 Oct 2006 Posts: 89	12-29-2006 00:39 From: Elaina Bainbridge and what time exactly is 00:20 pm on a 24 hr clock? 20 minutes after midnight. Incidently, I'm done showering now, so you can re-open the grid. Thanks. Edit: oops...missed the "pm" part.
Lilliput Boshops Registered User Join date: 25 Oct 2006 Posts: 89	12-29-2006 00:43 From: Lilliput Boshops 20 minutes after midnight. Incidently, I'm done showering now, so you can re-open the grid. Thanks. Edit: oops...missed the "pm" part. (one minute later) Gee. Thanks. Talk about service!
Jesseaitui Petion king of polynesia :P Join date: 2 Jan 2006 Posts: 2,175	12-29-2006 00:43 00:39am PST] Recovery and clean up complete - grid is now open.
cinda Hoodoo my 2cents worth Join date: 30 Dec 2004 Posts: 951	Good & bad news 12-29-2006 00:49 Well im in & still have money, good news, bad news, do believe the asset server is very broken, and everyones gonna be very bald for awhile
Winter Ventura Eclectic Randomness Join date: 18 Jul 2006 Posts: 2,579	12-29-2006 00:53 I logged in with one shoe, and the alert "the attempt to create the object failed" (or something like that.. it wasn't something I had ever seen before). I tried to rewear the other shoe.. but nothing happened.. so I decided to relog. Logins disabled. _____________________ ● Inworld Store: http://slurl.eclectic-randomness.com ● Website: http://www.eclectic-randomness.com ● Twitter: @WinterVentura
Daphne Molinari The Delectable One Join date: 29 Jun 2004 Posts: 236	12-29-2006 00:58 yup _____________________
Kitty Barnett Registered User Join date: 10 May 2006 Posts: 5,586	12-29-2006 00:59 An extremely helpful Linden told me to clear cache.... which I'd already done before I logged on... and to relog... after the logins were disabled. I don't think half of them even knows what goes on over there.
Eddie Taft Registered User Join date: 20 Sep 2006 Posts: 8	12-29-2006 01:00 consider urself lucky with just shoe gone...i seem to be missing an entire Island(((
Winter Ventura Eclectic Randomness Join date: 18 Jul 2006 Posts: 2,579	12-29-2006 01:03 I should clarify... in terms of prim attachments... I was ONLY wearing a shoe. _____________________ ● Inworld Store: http://slurl.eclectic-randomness.com ● Website: http://www.eclectic-randomness.com ● Twitter: @WinterVentura
Vladamier Szymborska Registered User Join date: 10 Jun 2006 Posts: 4	Sl 12-29-2006 01:03 I truely wish LL would fix what they have out before creating new updates. To be a paying customer this is just bad business. I am truely wondering if the monthly amout is worth the issues. I left a game before because the devs messed it up. I truely enjoy this game. LL please start to fix what is already available before creating new versions.
Dargon Pacer Registered User Join date: 2 Jul 2005 Posts: 19	12-29-2006 01:03 I was working on a script just before the crash, and I discovered I was unable to save the script.. After it came back up, I tried again and got the same error.. (from DEBUG console) "WARNING: Alert: There was a problem uploading the text for a script due to the following reasons: Asset requests failed. Please try again later." Sounds like might not be quite fixed after all.. [yawn]...giving up for the night. Good luck all!

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