Suicide Girls using Linden Labs to promote their product.

It does seem kind of at odds with the whole "OMG! don't swear or walk around naked in a WA!" thing.

Aren't porn star newbies be a tad bit of a problem?
(or will they start from their own private spawn point)

Suicide Girl Island?

Or, you know, maybe they'll just wear clothes.

Or maybe they aint porn stars

(Enabran I told you about that odd day thing.. oh crap its the 11th now - my bad.. ok now you post as me for the rest of the day while I work)

Can we block all of this out on a calendar? I'm liable to forget otherwise.

Only from what I have read (not on these forums, I mean articles and watching a few videos) They have an rough reputation to uphold. I think (name omited) they would rather beat the day lights out of ppl in the welcome area, than give them a free preview

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It's pretty sad to see just how many people in SL are elitists. My interaction with SG's so far has been nothing but good, but I'm not after seeing them naked. In fact I've hired a few to host in my club. And guess what? They wear clothes, now get over your bad selves already. I'd rather hang with a few nice people then a bunch of stuck up snobs any day.

Martin, you make an interesting point, but one that has an explanation that allows for posting in regards to the original topic while staying within ToS/CS.

1) from my recollection, naming a group has been allowed. as long as it isn't an attack.

2) that wasn't an attack, it was a tongue-in-cheek comment meant as satirical commentary that serves to start a conversation about what people feel about the question of SG being here to promote themselves via SL and the inherent sexual tactics that some may, or may not, feel will be used by said group.

if you (read: everyone) were to talk about the subject matter raised in an intelligent and non-inflammatory manner, then that would be what we're trying to encourage.

on the other hand, the original post does appear to fall under the category of "Flaming (posting a message that is intended to incite anger or directly attack a person or persons)". the emphasis being on "intended to incite anger" and not the attacking part for reasons mentioned above.

the fact that Jeska has come in since the opening of the thread and made comments inherently tells the ResMods that to close the thread it should be based on behaviour after her first warning and disclude the original post. yes, ResMods have a job to do, but that also means taking our cues from Jeska. granted we can differ on opinions and that is what the ResMod forums are for, to provide discourse before "jumping the gun".

Trying to work my way through this post, which resembles a legal document in some respects, reminds me of the knots people get themselves into once they agree to the principle of censorship.

The real question here is why should anyone sit in Judgement and impose their own definition of "enrichment" on others. It's one thing to make a personal assessment and quite another to air that personal assessment and use it to launch thinly-veiled attacks both on a group and on those who do not wish to be similarly intolerant (which is, btw, against the Community Standards).

As for the professional relationship between Linden Lab and Suicide Girls, it's neither my nor anyone else's real world business. As a resident, my only concern is whether or not group members abide by the ToS and Community Standards. Labeling them and disparaging them without ever having met them so clearly violates the Community Standards I'm saddened (though not surprised) that it's not being dealt with in a clear and deliberate manner.

Intolerance is ugly. I'd certainly not want to be a part of any group - in SL or in RL - that practices or excuses it.

I greeted the SG's girls personally on Help Island, this tread was supposed to be a cute parody of "Linden Labs using Suicide girls to promote their product".

THAT thread got locked to to people personally attacking each other.

Yes it was. I thread was intended to be purely tongue-in-cheek. But some people do miss the point of parody

I was referring to the over-the-fence-style gossip.

Unfortunately, the joke was lost on the very first page. Some people don't think any of this is very funny.

Cybin, wake up and smell the insanity.

It doesn't MATTER if you stay within the TOS/CS. It only matters who you are.

Siggy Romulus:

"Time will tell I guess - 20 bucks says I'm posting tomorrow

"I love it - I'm enebran or grimmy besides the fact that I've been here longer than both of them..put together.. hahah I have one alt .. and not forced on me by Forum embarrasment like yourself.."

Well, Martin, I guess you owe Siggy $20.

So do I. So does Lewis. So does ANYONE who thought the TOS was anything other than a document applied at random whim based on favoritism, mood, or God knows what.

I don't see any warning in the police blotter. Maybe it takes longer than 24 hours to issue a warning? That's interesting, since someone with

FAR LESS HOSTILE INTENT

who used NO PROFANITY

got an immediate SUSPENSION for just one post for speaking pidgeon English.

Yet some people can not only say whatever they feel like, they can rub our noses in it and go nyah nyah nyah.

coco

A warning won't stop people from posting. So you are expecting a suspension or a ban.

1) Wrong - I recieved my first official warning very recently for naming a very well known land baron group.

2) I think when a joke has to be explained, its not very funny.

The rest is a matter of opinion and for the most part I agree. I do however also believe if I were in a volunteer position I would be very careful not to appear as if I am taking sides.

Cat

no.... it was a parody of "LL using Suicide Girls to promote their product" which.. as I said .. was shut down due to attacks.

When a joke has to be explained it is not funny....... to the person it has to be explained to. Everyone else found it hilarious.

The really sad part is this...

As Noir Suicide put on her mohawk, studs, boots.. leather etc. I commented. "Hey and here and SL you won't be weird or stared at for dressing that way".

Apparently the nature of the site has set off feelings in a lot of people.

As far as one's life "not being enriched" .... was it meant to? I think it was about marketing.

I would rather owe it to him than cheat him out of it. So what have I learned today? It's ok for some posters to insult ppl who admit to being Christian and to yell obsenities at them. Without fear of being held to the TOS and CS.

The list of inconsistancies goes on and on and on. And I for one am getting pretty damn mad about it. Especialy when given the fact. These forums are for members of SL only. Depending who is moderating and who chooses to be consistant could be the difference between having an account IW or not.

One persons toungue in cheek remarks could be another persons existance wiped from the SL data base With a swift perma band.

Unfortunatly every time we try to bring up this matter two things happen. 1. group comes in and intentionaly derails the discussion and then pats each other on the back for doing so. 2. The thread gets locked, moved, or deleted.

I not only smell the coffee I have started grinding my own beans this morning.

Cat

Don't you get it? Your trying to put me down because I didn't see the humor in it. Your singling me out for that fact.

"Everyone else found it hilarious."

Do a post count again I think you will find many ppl not posting "LOL"

Insanity. Inconsistancy.

Cat <---singular voice.

Exactly so Selador. Slippery slope.

Do you honestly think this is why he was insulted? That is ridiculous. People reacted to the comments he made about the morality of the Suicide Girls and the visitors to the web site, and to him calling them professional hookers, and that these are not the kind of people we want in SL, among other things. Those are personal attacks, but you don't seem to have a problem with him saying those things. To claim he was attacked because he dared to point out he is Christian is not only ridiculous, it is glossing over any attacks that he made and misrepresenting the entire thing.

That said, even with the things he said, you are right that he did not deserve to be told to go fuck himself, I agree with you. I just have a major problem with taking one person to task for something while completely ignoring the facts of what led to it.

We are at an interesting juncture again, Cat. At the time this thread was created, Ingrid's post was also there - this was a parody of the original thread. The fact that it was a parody was probably lost because the other threads were locked, but it did originate that way. What was it you said about parody again?

This is not on topic.

linden suicide promotes lab girls for using their product

or something
ZOMG this will crash the economy!!!!!!

Yes I absolutely think that when someone says "go fuck yourself" that is meant to incite anger and is an intentional insult. Regardless of what a poster says it is not right for a group of ppl to jump on that poster and verbally abuse that person based on their religion, or call into question his volunteer status with LL.

One example of my opinion on this subject:
Muslim woman are to be covered in public they are not to openly flirt or show any affection publicly. Americans feel is very much acceptable to walk around half naked and show affection openly in public. Islamic law is very strict a woman showing an arm, leg….publicly. Makes her a whore.

We have to be very careful when we are talking about religious beliefs. It’s for that reason that I will not question his opinion of that group, for his Christian belief system. SL is not just America and it’s moral/immoral belief systems. SL is global I think it is imperative to see all points of view and to take a person at face value when it comes to their belief systems.

That’s all I have to say as I think this is off topic from the OP and could cause this thread to be locked, moved, deleted.