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Overactive Security Scripts

Hugsy Penguin
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05-09-2006 10:51
From: Tiger Zobel
Guess I mis-understood what you were meaning as privacy controls... I would have classed that as security with a bit of privacy thrown into the mix. :o


Yeah, a little bit of bad wording on my part. I see privacy and security controls as tightly related and just call it privacy.


From: Tiger Zobel
Anyway, yes... that would work, and work well... as well as removing all but one need for the scripts.
Since there have been times we've had to 'port in a customer at very short notice, so having it on friends list only wouldn't work that well for us... but if there was a very quick and easy way to add them to the allow list... /me hints to LL about this...


I'd also add things like automatic no build/no script for those who are banned (whether that be those on the banned list or those not on the access list). As well as auto-return for those who are banned.

I didn't think through all the possible things LL could do, though. I think LL needs to look at the griefing that happens, how it happens, why it happens, etc... And then implement the better anti-griefing tools.

From: Tiger Zobel
But why we'd still need scripts is for the poor sods who rent... they've got no land tools to protect themselves with, so I can see the scripts still being used... (responsibly, for preference)


Another good point. Better tools for land renters to give tenants their own privacy/security controls.

As for the insta-eject scripts, I'll concede that in situations like yours that the script could be appropriate. I'd like to ask some questions and get your opinion.

What would insta-eject do that a delay doesn't? It keeps avatars away. So, they can't make offensive gestures and what not in front of you that they could do during the delay. That's certainly a benefit to the land owner. Stop people from rezzing objects while on your land, but...

Isn't it true that an insta-eject script does little to nothing to stop greifers from shooting up your place? Can't they just do it from an adjacent property or out of range?

Same question for rezzing objects. Can't they just do it from an adjacent property or from above and drop the objects down?

I asking because I'm thinking that the insta-eject scripts may be OK while the person is on-line, and definately OK while they're in the process of being griefed, but too much if the person isn't online.

HP
Tiger Zobel
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05-09-2006 11:17
From: Hugsy Penguin

Another good point. Better tools for land renters to give tenants their own privacy/security controls.

As for the insta-eject scripts, I'll concede that in situations like yours that the script could be appropriate. I'd like to ask some questions and get your opinion.

What would insta-eject do that a delay doesn't? It keeps avatars away. So, they can't make offensive gestures and what not in front of you that they could do during the delay. That's certainly a benefit to the land owner. Stop people from rezzing objects while on your land, but...

Isn't it true that an insta-eject script does little to nothing to stop greifers from shooting up your place? Can't they just do it from an adjacent property or out of range?
That is a good question... with how we have things set up at home, for them to be able to hit us with anything, they need to have a bit of time to get into position... it's not simply them able to just LOS us from a distance. They could, before we went skyward and redesigned the house, but not anymore.
So, for us... the instant eject does a lot to stop them... IF we ended up using them. As it is, the height and short warning seems to be doing the job of protecting us, but I can see the possibility of us having to drop the warning if things got bad again.
From: someone
Same question for rezzing objects. Can't they just do it from an adjacent property or from above and drop the objects down?
I'm not sure how they'd be able to do that in our case, (the only conditions I can truely comment on with any accuracy, tbh) but I'm assuming that it's hard to rez stuff on nothing... I'll have to try it and see...

If it doesn't, then yes, they could do that... but the rez speed would be nothing compared to gunk from a gun. The most common form of griefing afaik. (unless it's a self-replicator, in which case everyone's gonna be griefed with that...)
From: someone
I asking because I'm thinking that the insta-eject scripts may be OK while the person is on-line, and definately OK while they're in the process of being griefed, but too much if the person isn't online.

HP

I agree with you... shocking, but true. Except... I can see how they'd end up getting so pissed at having to change the setting everytime they arrived/left and end up just leaving it at no warning for their own ease...
Ranma Tardis
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05-09-2006 11:46
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Hugsy Penguin
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05-09-2006 11:51
From: Tiger Zobel
I'm not sure how they'd be able to do that in our case, (the only conditions I can truely comment on with any accuracy, tbh) but I'm assuming that it's hard to rez stuff on nothing... I'll have to try it and see...


Not hard at all. An attachment can rez an object in front of you.

From: Tiger Zobel
I agree with you... shocking, but true. Except... I can see how they'd end up getting so pissed at having to change the setting everytime they arrived/left and end up just leaving it at no warning for their own ease...


An idea:

While sensing for intruders, the script could also sense for the home owners. It could then automatically go into "max security mode" when owner is home and then automatically go into "slightly less than max security mode" when they leave. No buttons to press.

I don't know if this is a capability of current security systems but it could be done.

HP
Sonic Winger
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05-09-2006 12:22
This may sound like a strange question, but do they make a security scripts that ejects, bans and reports a person?
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05-09-2006 12:24
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05-09-2006 12:28
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