Self spwaning objects by 'Horatio Havercamp' downing grid.

Well I began my quest and pulled the dictionary.com definition for you!

video game
n.

An electronic or computerized game played by manipulating images on a video display or television screen.

Of course, the fact that Secondlife uses graphics libraries, such as Direct X, which are almost solely made for the purposes of gaming and manipulating images, should easily prove my point. But I went further, into the depths of unknown crevices of the internet tighter than your own b$$thole. I sir, have pulled the wikipedia article for video games. So at your own suggestion to prove that Second Life is in fact, a VIDEO GAME, I will scour this article for evidence showing that SecondLife is indeed, a video game.

A computer game is a computer-controlled game. A video game is a computer game where a video display such as a monitor or television is the primary feedback device. The term "computer game" also includes games which display only text (and which can therefore theoretically be played on a teletypewriter) or which use other methods, such as sound or vibration, as their primary feedback device, but there are very few new games in these categories. There must also be some sort of input device, usually in the form of button/joystick combinations (on arcade games), a keyboard & mouse/trackball combination (PC games), or a controller (console games), or a combination of any of the above. Also, more esoteric devices have been used for input (also see Game controller). Usually there are rules and goals, but in more open-ended games the player may be free to do whatever they like within the confines of the virtual universe.

Important notes here: (pay attention very closely here Orion)
-Video game = Computer Game that has a display. SecondLife could use a monitor, or a TV depending on your setup.
-SecondLife is a mix of text and graphics, but both definitions say graphics and text comprise a video game.
-SecondLife has sound which is interactive.
-The input devices would be a keyboard and a mouse.

HOLD ON! HERE IT COMES! PAY REALLY CLOSE ATTENTION HERE ORION.

Usually there are rules and goals, but in more open-ended games the player may be free to do whatever they like within the confines of the virtual universe.

Usually there are rules and goals, but in more open-ended games the player may be free to do whatever they like within the confines of the virtual universe.

Usually there are rules and goals, but in more open-ended games the player may be free to do whatever they like within the confines of the virtual universe.

Usually there are rules and goals, but in more open-ended games the player may be free to do whatever they like within the confines of the virtual universe.

Usually there are rules and goals, but in more open-ended games the player may be free to do whatever they like within the confines of the virtual universe.

Oh Snap!

I don't usually get into these forum urinary-fests, but I see one thing happening if LL does not publicly make an example of one or more of these idiots, they (LL) are going to start losing the backbone of SL, namely the people who do run successful businesses in SL. I'm just a tourist in the SL world, with a little chunk of cyberspace, and I can live with not getting my SL "fix" for a few hours, but the people like Katt and many others who are doing very succesful businesses in SL, cannot AND will not tolerate, for long, these idiots bringing the system down. My only complaint with LL is that they do not appear to be taking any VISIBLE steps to preventing this from occuring, and mind you, two deliberately caused outages within 48 hours is a problem! Unless LL clearly shows the SL community that it is doing something besides "lipservice" to discourage and/or prevent these outages, it won't take too long for most of the fantastic content creators to find other outlets for their talents, and at that time, SL will be much the worse for it...

My .02 (I get wordy when I can't live my SL!!)...

I agree, Huns. sorry for being a bi*** earlier. I'm PMSing and this grid attack is messing with my money. sorry. I also hope they are spending some development effort to check new accounts, make permabans effective, and to stop self-replicating prims after a reasonable number for any benign use.

yes i have friends i'm talking to in yahoo that are still in game. but can't exchange money and no scripts at all are working. And Horatio I'm shocked, he isn't a freebie account he owns land across from me. OH my.

roflmfao... Thanks for posting a huge bunch of junk that proved nothing.

So by your own point Second Life is just a game because "you are selling your time and services for providing xxx item/money/etc.". Or where you only talking about my MMO selling money example and totally disregarding the other.

By your own admission SL is evolving. This may or may not be true. What is true is that at its currently evolved state it is still a game. In a few days/months/years or never it may evolve past that point. I think you are looking into the future at features and things that have yet to come along to declare it not a game. Such as the the rights you recieve when you buy something. You said that the rights are not known yet. Maybe when this is tested will be the first time when it's not seen as a game, but it still is a game. To see it as more at this stage is delusional.

Just because my car can possibly become an airplane does not make it more than a car until I add wings and make it fly.

Businesses in Second Life depend on the people that join to "play" the GAME. If you didn't have the people playing second life you wouldn't be able to sell your products. Because in real life the products have no meaning. I can't use the couch I bought in my living room.

I think that your comment MAY BE IRRATIONAL

Meep! Lots of pixels forming words, doncha think? *looks for the shout button and reilizes there is none* 0.=.0

Well, I get only the weekends as my major time on SL, the rest is in class, and stuff like this ruins my gaming experance. I'm gonna go eat apples...for some odd reason...

Louis, look out!! Be careful!! Oh NO! Your lap top -- glub glub glub

Mad skills.

It's not fair to disregard people's points when you expect us to not disregard yours. If you want to pick and choose what people prove then this is no longer an argument and has become a who has the longer e-penis show.

So true. But there is still the similarity... reality is what you make it and so is SL.

Personally, I'm here to do what I enjoy most, build... to create artistically. If others like my work then that is a plus. If they like it well enough to pay me some Ls for it, that is just an added bonus. Originally I got a trial account to attend a memorial servive for a friend. I wasn't planning in staying. Then my SO caught me a couple of days after I got the trial in SL and wanted to check it out because it looked so much better than the AW of 6 years ago. Next thing I know I'd sunk a couple of thousand USD into SL. LOL So... I'm here to stay. At least until the wheels fall off.

Heehee...I hafta type more than usual...XP

No, you actually own the products you are selling, and your time and services that you are selling as well. You do not own the gold on Ultima for example. And I said my knowledge on the laws regarding inworld object ownership is not the greatest, but I am relying on others word on that. And seeing something that isnt yet widely used as a possible future outcome, and as a burgeoning deveopement you want in on isnt delusional, its called thinking ahead and trying to be ahead of the curve. Businesses in SL depend on people wanting their goods and services, just like IRL. If people didnt want to play, live, sex it up, etc on SL, then businesses wouldnt be surviving, but they are, so I think that answers that.

WHAT WILL THE NEXT ORION WAVES COMMENT BE? WHAT WILL IT SAY? WHAT GINORMOUS SLITEHRING GLOB OF GOO WILL COME OUT OF HIS MOUTH NEXT?

Stay tuned D:

I think this comment may be irrational.

Why is it that when people are having fun, someone elses idea of fun is to ruin everyone elses fun?

Oh this kids have a balloon it would be fun to pop it wouldn't it?

lol! Yeah, I remember Active Worlds too.. And I was on VZones alot too (all the way back to when it was Worlds Away on CompuServe)... I have always been interested in the possibilites of virtual online communities and worlds. SL is just alot more advanced and open-ended than the others EVER were lol...

These are the days I wish SL has an off-line sandbox, that would allow people to build even while SL is down and upload them asap when it's back up.

I just woke up with a few good building ideas for houses to make, but with SL being down, I could actually feel those good ideas slowly disappear...x_x

all non sandbox areas should be no build no scripts

lol ;p

That's not possible, didn't you see the overwhelming proof provided by all these people? Second Life is just a game that is intangible and has no bearing on real life other than a pleasant, though buggy, waste of time. Get with the program!

Ya know...ya sorta coulda just made yer post bold insted of cApS. Cuz caps hurts my virtual ears. And ta tell ya truthfully, I gots big virtual ears.

lolling is considered irrational. Please post more rational comments.

I am not disregarding peoples points, I am ignoring the large amount of spam that was posted that had little to no relevence on the conversation. Latching onto one word and giving me the definition through an through of it from everything from dictionaries to wikis isnt going to prove it is something it isnt.