Self spwaning objects by 'Horatio Havercamp' downing grid.

No, i am also still inworld, i wasnt on the mainland when the atttack happend, there are still al ot of people here, aha well, we just wait to get disconected to...

Devising a backup plan is exactly what I posted and yet you had to make some snide comment about it. Make up your mind.

Hear, hear!

I'd *love* to see some of the SL-based businesses band together to bring action against these assholes who down the grid.

Jess

No one is impressed that you claim to have a basis for a lawsuit. You can sue anyone for anything in these awesome fifty states.. but really, from a purely objective standpoint, who owes you anything? No one made you rest the foundation of your business on the flimsy stilts of a kerrrrazy internet game.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with sl being used for gaming, business, or social purposes. It really doesn't matter what you use it for. The fact of that matter is that as someone said, it's a service, a service to whatever means we implore it to be. And each and everyone of us do not have to justify how, why, and when we use this service to anyone. I completely understand that to some people the service might be just another form of entertainment, easily replaceable with another form, and I also understand the axiom the sl stands for sleep later. It really matters not. What does matter, is a disruption of service outside the normal growing pains of SL. The frequency and the predictability of these disruptions is just plain wrong. I make no claims to understanding half the technololgies involved, but I have to wonder why it is so hard to simply remove an objects key from the centralized asset servers as soon as it is determined to be a greifer device. And maybe, how about implementing an army of search and destroy worms that can scour the sim's for such already spawned objects much faster than any human element. And to top it all off, where is the discouragement in the first place that might discourage greifers from doing it in the first place. If all the person who accomplished this last time (I know this only by rumors of what I have read in the forum) got was a one day suspension, how does this discourage anyone else? I know I don't have any real answers, and much smarter people than me must be pondering these things and much more important ones, I would just like to see some affirmative action take place. Something positive to look at and say, yes, the powers that be are doing something that will significantly reduce these negatives, and raise the positives we get from the "service" we call Second Life. I do like it that LL actually does post about the greifer attacks now, they are keeping us informed, which is a big plus. I just feel a need to reassured that they behind the scenes actions being implement are just as positive, even if they cannot release any details.

You obviously don't understand the fact that this really isn't a game. A large proportion of SL users use it for the reasons Katt described. And yes, there are times when there will be service issues. That has happened for us before, either with her ISP, or with mine, or one of our other staffers. That isn't the issue here. The issue is a person or persons DELIBERATELY crashing the grid.



Perhaps you don't grasp the concept that these actions fall under the United States Federal Computer Fraud and Abuse Act ("CFAA" and similar state laws. These statutes establish civil and criminal liability for certain acts that result in damage to computer systems, destruction or alteration of programs or data stored in those systems, or denial of authorized access to those systems.

Do you get that? DoS attacks are an offense under these regulations. It is no joke. It's no different than if they had hacked the New York Times website, or LEXIS/NEXIS, or any other business organization. If you think otherwise, you are only fooling yourself.

P2

Er...

Might want to dial that back a bit, son. She makes quite a bit of her lively-hood here.

Again, not grasping the point. The entire reason that law enforcement and lawsuits, etc. are being brought up are mainly a deterrant. Such as people do online, like the RIAA. They know that filing a few lawsuits against people wont STOP piracy, but it WILL make a few more people think twice before doing it again. Same goes with SL. Once a few people are prosecuted for cyberterrorism or something along those lines for doing things like this, peoples views will change and (hopefully) SL will suffer less attacks as a result.

It's not SL that's unstable.

It's the minds of the griefers.

P2

Fresh air, sunlight, exercise, and social interaction.

Again, I'm not trying to say SL is full of obiese cave dwellers. I'm just saying, you know, maybe this is an opportunity in disguise.

AMEN!

*blinks*

I do?? Dayum... wish someone had told me... I would have closed up my RL pc shop months ago had I known.


I think you have me confused with someone else Foolish.

I agree with you 100%.

Problem is, you're still being an annoying bugger about it, and being right is NOT everything...

Right.. the more likely outcome, more people will get angry and find new ways to do things. Has piracy stopped lately? I don't think so.

Just settle with that fact that you guys chose to do whatever-it-is-you-do here in SL, and it's not proving to be a very wise choice afterall. No one is going to jail, and there's not going to be any lawsuits. You might have some luck with Judge Judy though!

Although DoS'ing the New York Times is objectively similar to crashing the SL grid, is SL really established as something hugely important that's worthy of like, jails and lawsuits? I really don't believe so. I mean, you've gotta use your judgement here. Something huge that tons and tons of people rely on for valuable information is a bit different than you losing connectivity to THE DONG GAME for a couple hours

Good point. I'm going out to get smokes, Yoo-hoo and a pair of elastic waist jeans.

From a rational business standpoint, staking a lively-hood on an internet video game is not the most sound of ideas.

its not im just under 100 pounds and had friends see me on cam so i can prove it so there
not to add that its crys 11 pm now and to late to go anywhere on a sunday before a bank holiday "crys" more and trys to patch the hole in the sandwhich

Thank god all the other job markets are so stable.

I agree. But the person getting the opportunity is blind. You have the chance right now to open your eyes and mind a bit, and realize your brass assumption of what a person using a computer service is, has changed in this day and age. Lots of people use computers all day for a variety of reasons, and are fit and have great lives. Just because you are still in the stone-age and believe someone who has merged technology into their lifestyle is an "obiese cave dweller", isnt my fault or problem.

From a rational business standpoint, this isnt a game. And from a rational business standpoint, its always best to be on the leading edge of the tech curve, than limping behind playing catch up. So say as you wish, the early pioneers in every field have dealt with that kind of thought.

This is getting very old!!

Then do something about it, moron. See if any court cares.

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has a excorsise bike in her study and hasnt seen daylight in years

<<--said bye bye sun when out came hello cable woohooooo

You aren't as important as a big business.
You probably won't be.
Lawsuits and jail are only going to come from this when REAL COMPANIES have recognized b.s. like SL as a viable platform and deal on it.
As for now you, jeb, and joe from down the way are just gonna have to put your synergy on hold a couple hours.

I forgot, the NY Times website has always been considered crucial to life.. lol... Seriously, why cant you understand that this is an early look into what could be the next main platform for communications, commerce, etc? We arent the ones challenged with logical thought here.