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FlipperPA Peregrine
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08-02-2006 11:24
Yeah!!! Just like QuakeII. The internets rock. *Edit* Although QuakeII didn't really rock till the 'furry sex' mod. hahahahaha, you are so twisted, my friend. I'm about ready to book a flight back to Manchester already!  _____________________
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Heir Maelstrom
Chaotica Drive-In Manager
Join date: 11 Sep 2004
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08-02-2006 11:27
I follow the religion of Science, and while Science says Gay sex is awkward with little to no long term reward such as procreation (besides the temporary mutual -I hope- gratification) there is nothing wrong with it.
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Zoe Llewelyn
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08-02-2006 11:30
Heh, and let's not even get started on the King James translation of Leviticus! Every time I mention those translated passages to someone who uses the King James translation of a work of oral tradition as "the word of God", the typical response is, "Oh, that's old testiment, it doesn't count. Only new testament counts!" The main problem in many cases is that many modern bigots have been born out of translations and interpretations done millenia ago by people with agendas driven by fear, after being blinded and brainwashed by modern people with agendas driven by fear. Regards, -Flip Very well said. Thanks you. See, and people have been saying you can't speak English...and here you speak it so well even a deaf person can understand you! _____________________
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Cannae Brentano
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Join date: 21 Apr 2006
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08-02-2006 11:41
Actually...this is not correct. The passage so many people like to quote concerning gays was mistranslated intentionally by King James to refer to men being with men. The original quote actually referred to the sin of an Isrealite laying with a Temple Priestess of Baal, a God of the Canaanites. As well, the popular culture has created a false view that Sodom and Gomorrah were punished by the Old Testament God for being homosexual or taking part in homosexual acts. When in truth Sodom and Gomorrah were punished for the grave sin of Inhospitality, for their assault on someone who was sheltering under thier roof. I'd have to look it up for the exact quote, but Leviticus said something about men who lies with other men being an abomination and should be killed, or something along those lines. I usually try to serve shrimp cocktail when I discuss this passage about the exception to the command against murder, and then bring up the point that Leviticus also said eating shell fish is an abomination too. But that's just me. |
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Dillon Morenz
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08-02-2006 11:54
I'd have to look it up for the exact quote, but Leviticus said something about men who lies with other men being an abomination and should be killed, or something along those lines. Yah, but I think Zoe's point was about mistranslations in the King James so how well translated is that particular passage? I looked it up for you btw: http://www.thebricktestament.com/the_law/homosexuality/lv18_22.html ..with pictures too!  _____________________
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Heir Maelstrom
Chaotica Drive-In Manager
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08-02-2006 11:59
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Banking Laws
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08-02-2006 12:03
According to the front page of the Second Life website "Second Life is a 3D online digital world imagined, created and owned by its residents." According to the people who can't even get most updates right. game 1  (g m) KEY NOUN:
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Dillon Morenz
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08-02-2006 12:03
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Cannae Brentano
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08-02-2006 12:09
Yah, but I think Zoe's point was about mistranslations in the King James so how well translated is that particular passage? I looked it up for you btw: http://www.thebricktestament.com/the_law/homosexuality/lv18_22.html ..with pictures too! True, but have you ever tried to argue mistranslations with the willfully ignorant? Very funny site btw. |
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VolatileWhimsy Bu
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Join date: 27 Jun 2006
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08-02-2006 12:18
Hey and no laughing with people who's native isn't english. English isn't my first language either...and sure I do sound a little like Apu from the simpsons when I speak english irl. (aspecialy when I force a brittish accent) But my english is quite nice for 22 year old girl who teached herself some decent english...and all that with internet. So now my english is quite good. The first words that I learned on the internet was 'enlarge' and 'discount' /clap would like to point out to the native english speakers.. that the majority of you only know one language.. hmmm hate to say this what do you think, that says, that maybe you are somewhat unaccepting, taht you aren't clever enough to fig it out, or that your an elitist that thinks you dont need to know one.. or are you just lazy? /sigh and yes im one of em.. /makes a note to learn another language |
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Zoe Llewelyn
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08-02-2006 12:22
I'd have to look it up for the exact quote, but Leviticus said something about men who lies with other men being an abomination and should be killed, or something along those lines. I usually try to serve shrimp cocktail when I discuss this passage about the exception to the command against murder, and then bring up the point that Leviticus also said eating shell fish is an abomination too. But that's just me. That quote originally read that if a Man lieth down with a temple priestess [of Baal], he is an abomination, etc. It's original point was to tell the Islrealites they may not take part in the rituals and practices of their Canaanite neighbours. It was intentionally mistranslated by King James later to refer to men laying with men. _____________________
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VolatileWhimsy Bu
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08-02-2006 12:27
Would remind people that the bible is not able to be translated to its completion for the simple fact there are words we have no idea what it means... Meaning one word can make a difference... and that ppl did have a bad habit of "translating" it to reflect the direction :/
And seriously the scientific community not to long ago published something about the gene that causes someone to be straight gay or whatever... Yes yes i know it was done with fruit flies.. but since we only have a few more genes than anything in this world it does have a ring of truth  |
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Banking Laws
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08-02-2006 12:32
Would remind people that the bible is not able to be translated to its completion for the simple fact there are words we have no idea what it means... Meaning one word can make a difference... and that ppl did have a bad habit of "translating" it to reflect the direction :/ And seriously the scientific community not to long ago published something about the gene that causes someone to be straight gay or whatever... Yes yes i know it was done with fruit flies.. but since we only have a few more genes than anything in this world it does have a ring of truth Sheep too. Homosexual rams have the same size cerebral cortex as the ewes, as opposed to the larger one found in heterosexual rams. Dolphins, also have been known to be homosexual (and engage in 3somes) as well as murder for no apparent reason. _____________________
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Dillon Morenz
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08-02-2006 12:35
Dolphins, also have been known to be homosexual (and engage in 3somes) as well as murder for no apparent reason. O. M. G. I hope you're not saying that all gay dolphins are serial killers because statistics show that over 80% of serial killer dolphins are actually heterosexual. _____________________
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VolatileWhimsy Bu
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08-02-2006 12:43
O. M. G. I hope you're not saying that all gay dolphins are serial killers because statistics show that over 80% of serial killer dolphins are actually heterosexual. no no, it was said they are metrosexual! |
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FlipperPA Peregrine
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08-02-2006 12:43
Very well said. Thanks you. See, and people have been saying you can't speak English...and here you speak it so well even a deaf person can understand you! Thanks, but don't let it get out! I've got a reputation to maintain!  Would remind people that the bible is not able to be translated to its completion for the simple fact there are words we have no idea what it means... The even bigger problem is that most of the stories that became the Bible were handed down in an oral tradition for generations before anyone decided to actually write them down. They weren't put together until much later (by Paul, IIRC - but I'm no Biblican historian). AND FOR THE RECORD: DOLPHINS FRICKIN' ROCK! "Man had always assumed that he was more intelligent than dolphins because he had achieved so much – the wheel, New York, wars and so on – whilst all the dolphins had ever done was muck about in the water having a good time. But conversely, the dolphins had always believed that they were far more intelligent than man – for precisely the same reasons." - The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (the closest thing I have to a holy book, heh) Regards, -Flip _____________________
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Banking Laws
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08-02-2006 12:47
Dolphins are our superiors. You are welcome for all the fish.
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Nolan Nash
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08-02-2006 13:09
Considering only a tiny percentage of the active playerbase read the forums, I don't think that's anything to do with it. I would suggest that, before passing judgment on something I have built to provide entertainment for other players, you actually take a moment to visit it first. Lewis When SL went down last weekend, there were some 3000+ looged into the forums. I think that many people are aware of and read these forums. A small percentage, yourself and myself included, bother to get embroiled in the bootless pursuit of active participation. Myself, I am not self-centered enough to assume that because the majority don't want to touch many of these poisoned debates with a ten foot pole, that some ridiculously infinitesmal percentage read or care. I grow tired of this particular dismissal tactic. I really do, but, it's your right to whack people with it everytime you "need" to. Que sera, sera. _____________________
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Cannae Brentano
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08-02-2006 13:37
I have never once said that a gay club is less valid in SL than my disco - I am simply choosing not to visit them. Why is that a problem to you? Lewis If that's the case, then you really should read what you write a little more carefully. Sometimes you seem to say that you want to be able to avoid certain aspects of SL without having to stumble into them by accident. I can respect that, and I'm sure most others can as well. But all too often what you actually say is something far different. In this thread alone you imply that you have one standard for yourself and a different one for the rest of us. |
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Vivianne Draper
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08-02-2006 13:46
Can I have a box so that I can avoid sanctimonious self-righteous homophobic bigots?
Fair enough - but I would never do a book report on a book I only read the first few pages of, which is the equivalent (don't shoot the messenger, you started this metaphor). Now, onto the next silly metaphor: comparing not liking a genre of music to not liking a set of human beings for a lifestyle choice. *shakes head in disbelief* Congratulations on taking the leap from silly to vile. The zebra has, once again, shown it's stripes. Okay, Linden Lab, let's make it so... I want a separate tab in about land, for checkboxes: [ ] May contain gay / lesbian / bisexual / transexual people [ ] May contain gay / lesbian / bisexual / transexual sex [ ] May contain furries [ ] May contain furries having sex [ ] May contain heterosexuals [ ] May contain heterosexuals having sex [ ] May contain Jews [ ] May contain Jews having sex ...etc... Please, just so we can make sure all the people who want to label other people can avoid them as well in advance. Regards, -Flip |
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Vivianne Draper
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08-02-2006 13:58
But most publicity is either based around sex or making money. Why isn't everything else being promoted? Lewis Prolly cause the world doesn't revolve around you and what you like but what there is actually a demand for. |
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April Firefly
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08-02-2006 14:06
And if I didn't read the whole book, I would not feel knowledgeable enough to write a review on it, or comment on it in anyway.
It's like a book.. unless the first couple of pages grab you, generally you don't bother to read it through. Same with the article; it starts off mentioning a subject I have no interest in, so I didn't feel inclined to bother with the rest. It's amusing how words like "homophobia" are thrown around in accusatory terms when people are simply making a choice. I could accuse many people of 'discophobia' because they have never visited my seventies themed nightclub. Unfortunately, disco doesn't get special preferential treatment and protection. Lewis _____________________
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Vivianne Draper
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08-02-2006 14:08
Actually I would love a warning that a club was owned by homophobic bigots. That way I would know to stay away.
I have no clue what you're trying to say. If something is labelled as a "combat zone", I won't go there because gunplay doesn't interest me. But that's talking about the principle, rather than saying "that place is badly designed", which would be a first hand experience. The post to which I referred implied that my disco doesn't get visitors because I own it, rather than because of what it is. Lewis |
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April Firefly
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08-02-2006 14:12
And if I didn't read the whole book, I would not feel knowledgeable enough to write a review on it, or comment on it in anyway.
It's like a book.. unless the first couple of pages grab you, generally you don't bother to read it through. Same with the article; it starts off mentioning a subject I have no interest in, so I didn't feel inclined to bother with the rest. It's amusing how words like "homophobia" are thrown around in accusatory terms when people are simply making a choice. I could accuse many people of 'discophobia' because they have never visited my seventies themed nightclub. Unfortunately, disco doesn't get special preferential treatment and protection. Lewis _____________________
the truth is overrated The most successful software company in the world does a piss-poor job on all these points. Particularly the first three. Why do you expect Linden Labs to do any better? |
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pandastrong Fairplay
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08-02-2006 14:15
Finding that on the first page put me off reading the rest of the article. It's not "homophobia", that implies a fear. I have no fear of homosexuality, just choose not to be involved in it. Be very careful what you accuse people of. Lewis Finding your post on the first page of this thread put me off reading the rest of your posts, so I am going to just go ahead and assume that you are homophobic. _____________________
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