Top 10 warning signs that they might be a griefer

Fat griefers from what I've seen also tend to be naked, for maximum effect. I'd avoid combining the two if I were you.

Says "hey Linden can i test this gun on u?"



NOT KIDDING.

A weapon is no way to judge someone I have to guns on my avs legs at all times the outfitts I weare I designed around those guns. I don't see a problem with someone wearing a gun on your legs or back or side.

Its really sily and dumb when people have big fits about someone who is wearing a gun. not holding it in hand. greifers most of the time don't use guns to girief they use nukes bombs and hud attacks.

I hate it when people tell me to remove my guns I never use them for anything other then looks and I will not remove them since they are part of my outfitt. That would be like me asking or telling a person to remove the hair off the head.

Here is a perfect example of it. one of my friends would go to heaven above the clouds. So I went different times and never had a problem. then like the 10 time I was at it looking for my friend some freeb account that the people in it put as "security" told me to remove my guns I refused since there was no reason to since its prop guns just for looks on my outfitt.

So then I talk to the ower as I was sitting in the place talking to him some grifers came and were using nukes blowing everyone up. I laughed and said see you are wasting all this energy on me when I haven't did anything and look you got real greifers in here blowing everyone up. then I told them if my outfitt is a problem I then I don't need that place and see ya and left have no wants to go back to it.


anyways Its silly to assume people are griefers just by wearing guns and all of you who have problems with guns as part of a outfitt need to stop your crying and get over it.

If someone has a gun in hand shooting then thats a different story and reason to be upset.

Its so easy to put a gun in your hands from inventory, that having one on your leg or bnack doesn't mean a damn thing.


my 2 cents.

I generally have two katanas and a seburo wherever I go, and I've only orbited Torley once.

Michi look into the DE's at Novum Inc, waaay better than the Seburo's ; )

I as of yet have not met the Watermelindon thus cannot freely admit to have orb'd em ; )

Great thread, but I have two very important ones to add:

(1) Has something in their profile saying something akin to, "Keep your drama for your momma!" or "I don't do drama!" This indicates either that they're a griefer, or even worse, going to try to pull you into some seriously dramatic nonsense.

(2) Avatar has the first name, "Bub".

Back in early 2004, there was a female white trash pregnant avatar who always pretending to be smoking crack and drunk in the Maroon sim. It was pretty funny, and well role-played... but back then, that was also *original*.

Regards,

-Flip

I deleted that post because I figure Torley'd kick my ass.

Purple+blue vs. Pink+green - you know who the winner will be.

It'd be the war of the CGA color palettes.

These DE's... Do they look good? Function is one thing. Form is the other thing.

It seems like every time I get shot it's right in front of those big signs, And I keep getting this awkward scenero if the person actually sticks around (rarely):
"There's no shooting in this sandbox."
"really?"
"Yes."
"o sry"

RE: OP

Decent guidelines. Could stand some refinement but the rationale behind each one is certainly sound enough. The addiitons and mods by the other posters are pretty good too.

Just everyone remember that it's only a "might," good enough reason to put your guard up but not to take affirmative or drastic action.

Also note that there are griefers who fail all the guidelines posted and look and talk like very normal avatars.

Yes, but they usually have a name like "Josh Kaos" or something.

Like Jim Croce sang, you don't tug on Superman's cape.

My rule of thumb is if they look like they spent about 30 seconds working on their avatar, and they don't look like they are going for a theme yet have several maxed sliders is a sign. I've seen some short, fat avatars that have a genre they seem to be going for, and don't worry about them a bit.

Being unfailingly polite seems to annoy some of them. If they want to grief at first then would change into productive members of SL society, the politeness may just shock them straight, so to speak.

Yes, absolutely. You do *not* go around hustlin' people strange to you. Even if you do got a two piece custom made pool cue.

They look amazing, here allow me to link you...

http://slexchange.com/modules.php?name=Marketplace&file=item&ItemID=101775

Fully scripted and nice looking resizable holsters via click menu. Much like the seburo's it has silencers that can be added via touch menu, variety of bullet types.

Its actually Function over form, but they look sexy as hell too.

Toughie or pretentious names, yes. Pretentious names are those that seem to denote some kind of extreme power or badassness.

Again, not a sure sign, but yes, griefers do take names like those. Some of them are already themed avatars but normally so because of attachment/skin sets rather than actual avatar work.

One I'd like to add. Most residents I've met with a number in their name that had nothing to do with theme would have behavior that skirts pretty close to or actually violates the TOS.

Very good griefer detection tips! Sometimes I have found that people will distorted avs or silly names turn out to be legitimate new players, so one such detection tool I use for trying to pre-emptively discern a griefer alt (which gives me time to sit down before possibly being pushgunned) is to watch their ALT-zoom skills.

CTRL+ALT+D (enable Debug Menu)
Debug -> Character -> Show Look At

Allows you to see crosshairs of exactly where every player has the camera focused at.

1-day old who can move their camera focus around like a champ = alt.
1-day old silly name/distorted av who can move their camera focus around like a champ = griefer alt.

Two month old here who didn't know that one, thanks!

When I'm managing a club with 25,000 traffic, I cannot make exceptions because one person wants to look pretty or tough with guns on their hips. If I let them wear the guns, even if for show, the next visitor may see them and think it's ok to pull out a working gun and shoot people.

So it's your right to keep the guns on your hips, but it's our right to eject and ban you for refusing to cooperate. Easy enough. The sign says "no weapons", and that's exactly what it means. Making exceptions will cause nothing but more problems.

On the fat avatars: I was probably not careful enough with my wording. I've known a couple of very interesting avs who were designed on purpose to be heavy. But you can look at them and the care they took on clothing & skin to know they were aiming for a particular effect, not just being bizarre.

Then there are the people who jack their hip slider out to the max but leave the stomach at the default, stick huge lips and eyeballs on their face and run around complaining that nobody finds them attractive. What exactly are they trying to prove?

Now that takes a special kind of dumb.

I don't normally have too much difficulty with griefers these days, though. If they attack while I have at least some of my shield options enabled (and I usually do unless they're disruptive to the people around me somehow), odds are the attack will fail outright since griefers tend to have cheap (or free), unsophisticated weapons.

Even if my defenses are down so that I do get hit, it's nothing to zip my speed-boosted self back over to wherever I was attacked and do something like send the griefer into orbit, then enable another device that keeps them at least 96 meters away from me at all times if I need to.

While any of those measures I use can be countered, your average Day 1, cager-gun-carrying griefer probably isn't going to have the first clue how to go about it.

It does. It takes a "I don't read anything on the site kind of dumb." If they don't recognize the name Linden, it's perfectly safe to assume they didn't read Community Standards or Terms of Service ... leading to perfectly sure to be ARed.

You have a point. When Transylvania was public, a short, fat avatar w/ obnoxious name & attitude would come by. They tried goading people into an attack of some sort. Other folks got quiet, I didnt. I was polite as can be talking to them. And ya know, they never did seem to do anything after that.

Some folks come in thinking this is a Quake Chat Room till you show them there's other ways to behave.

Ya its the cry babys like you that turn normal upstanding people into haters and griefers, of people like you.

maybe I'll make hair thats realy a gun then when you cry babys start getting shot by griefers using it. I bet you cry babys will start crying over hair too, a gun means nothing. Anything and I do mean anything can be used as a weapon in SL.
Its people like you who are bullied and have no real power in RL that go on a power trip like that in SL.

You better remove your hair before entering my land or shops or I'll ban you. GL and GTH

And the #11 sign .... "it's all someone else's fault I got banned for not following the rules".

That said, I have yet to be orbited by someone's hair.

Just be glad torii can't be flexed

You probably got banned be someone that you did wrong in your power trip so don't cry about it.