Top 10 warning signs that they might be a griefer

Just going on my own experience - none of these points are 100% proof that someone will grief you, but they are the warning signs I use which will grab my attention and watch someone more closely than usual. Add more than one warning sign together and the odds of being griefed rise exponentially.

An unfamiliar avatar walks into your sim/store/club. What do you look for in deciding whether they might be trouble?

10. Purposely repugnant avatar - grossly overweight, loud skin colors (green or fuchsia seem to be favorites) and wild impossible hair. Speaks to an unwillingness to let anyone else accept them, or else a pathological need for attention.

9. Antagonistic and/or vulgar profile -- "no profile" doesn't say anything but does leave a door open to the possibility that it's a throwaway account. More troublesome are those who get in your face via profile before you even meet them.

8. Offensive avatar name. For example, "Huge Wood", "Smelly Beaver" (gods, why did LL make "Beaver" a name choice?) "Poopy", a host of other names. Avatar name demonstrates their insensitivity to others - next up: guns or c4?

7. Argumentative if you ask them to play nice and/or remove their weapons. For some reason, there are people who actually think their right to bear arms extends to your private property. Ejection/banning will earn you a visit from their alt.

6. Completely covered in black, including their face so you can't see their eyes and running bizarre particle effects in an attempt to look super-mysterious and scary. Also could be wearing black capes and tons of spiked attachments which scream "don't touch me!"

5. A member of any group with military references. Coupled with profile entries which proclaim the individual a "conqueror" or "gonna kick ass" and red flags should be waving.

4. They're naked (especially in a PG area) and their weapon of choice is bigger than their prim penis.

3. Obnoxious attitude, looking for a fight. This can only be discerned by engaging them in chat -- if you can get that far.

2. Belong to a known griefer group. Names will not be mentioned here but they're not hard to find out.

And the #1 warning sign that you might have a griefer:

1. "You have been pushed by ...." as you bounce from 0 to 200m over and over and over.
What other signs do you look for?

I fit 8 of the 10 criteria.

I think a griefer is anyone wearing a white tshirt and blue jeans

I saw one person in Waterhead with a gun on, he seemed kind of new. I got the feeling he would be shooting sometime soon, so I IMed him and said, "Nice gun, but keep in mind that this is a no shooting area." The reply I recieved, "i need 2 protect sl"

Yeah I fit a few of those as well..
And in fact one of my friends fit alot of those..

"hay I have this great blackjack table do you want to play" is a good sign, as the answer "no" should always be preceded by sitting on the nearest object and readying the right-click finger.

Items 4-10 also indicate their age is almost certainly below 18.

This is a huge attention getter. Note however what they usually DON'T have. Prim attachments of any form. I have a few friends with some rather ugly insect/human hybrid av's and I don't nor have ever seen them as possible griefers (Even before becoming friends). Usually you can tell when someone puts some time and effort into their AV. Most griefers don't, hence "Throw away accounts". Thus I refuse to judge by ugly, but more by how much effort they appear to have put in on a "look" or theme. Wildly varried sliders = no work.



Another born profile reader eh? Knew I liked you for a reason. Usually the ones like this are the "Troll griefers" or the ones looking to start whiney bitch fests and provoke OTHERS into action. I never expect to see a cager shoot out of this ones hands, but rather choice invective aimed at making someone ELSE who is normally moderate and mild mannered into pulling out THEIR guns.



Dead giveaway.



I am usually loathe to remove my weapons but usually only because they fit my "theme". They are also rarely ever "Live" meaning if you take a good look via CTRL alt T you will see none are in my hands, just wearing the holsters/sheath.



This I don't think is a fair charactarization. Someone looking like this put care into their work. They may be an emo punkass with a smart mouth, but griefer? Usually not. My drow AV which I went through a lot of trouble compiling bits and pieces of his costume fits this mold to a T (safe the face covering). And honestly I've never had a single problem with a person looking like this. (Cept for you darth vader and yadni's freebie flexie cloak!). Again, compare a well made av vs one that looks like poop. You'll find the ones that have a fair ammount of time and effort in their "look" are not looking to get banned at all.



God yes, I don't mind RP, but I swear to god half the gun happy idiots in this game are linked to Alliance Navy or somesuch. Go blow up your own sim with your toy guns you assclown. I'd probably be less insulted if they didn't use complete and utter shit guns against me. First time one of these guys pulls out a harbringer or double DE's from Novum, then I'll be impressed with their E-penis size. Ever notice the folks with the really expensive high grade weapons systems RARELY ever use them? Kinda like nukes in that regard...



Anyone running around with a penis attached at any time is automatically suspect.



This can safely be lumped in with number 9. Usually this is one and the same person.



Hell the stupid names usually give it away.



I don't seem to get pushed much, the favorite of today is the orbit cager. I just leave my neutralizer on and call it a day (unless I'm outdoors where vehicles fly).

Especially #4.

'Immature' behavior is pretty common in adults I've discovered to my travels. I wouldn't necessarily brand anyone a minor simply because they were a griefer. I'm willing to put forth a guess most are not.

So where do i get the really good guns?

lol, IM me when I get on, I forsee another whirlwind tour for you and I my dear

woot!
lol

Also would like to post this little article.. Goes to show you that looks are deceiving on what is truly in the heart

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/14024565/?GT1=8307

Perhaps I should have used "wildly varied sliders" instead One of my friends and one of the nicest guys you'll meet in SL is a green colored troll with red spikes. But like you said, he obviously took time creating his avie. And he also doesn't carry weapons or act like a jerk.


Absolutely. You probably shared my howls of pain right after the 1.11 update with opening profiles made you crash. I started having the shakes before they fixed it


In some areas, such as the club I help manage, we make no exceptions between guns for show and guns that work. As I try to explain, it's the perception other members get when they see someone packing a light saber or a pair of pistols. Once you let someone do it, others want to do it and it's just easier to make a "no guns - no exceptions" rule.


I haven't met many brand-newbies who knew how to cage yet. Our last run-in with cages ended up being little more than pesky prim clutter.

oh its one of the free weapons from yadni's, it shoots a prim that exploads into a physics enabled orbiting cage when it hits someone. You'll recognize what I'm talking about instantly when you see it, a cage shooting by you at about 200 miles an hour with an av in side yelling "WTF?!"

Then eventually it bounces upright and goes flying into the sky... or the top of the building your on.

I've been pretty succesfull in getting these off of clueless people by firing off a very powerful physics disruptor which in effect moves the cage so fast it passes through the avie when they are stuck to the ceiling of various clubs.

Well, I don't think the fat thing is very fair. I have a fat character because I have a fat fetish. However, I did make custom shorts (that fit under my gut) and shirts (like one that says FAT) that I usually wear, so hopefully people aren't going to think I'm some sort of griefer just out of being fat.

And I agree with Lupus about the all-black thing.

I just don't think people can make generalizations about one's appearance to tell whether someone is going to be a griefer and actually be accurate. The profile thing, the name of the character (poopypants, etc), carrying weapons or having a penis showing all the time, how someone reacts to things--I think those are all a lot more valid, but one's general appearance preferences, no--it's not fair.

Fmeh, the thing is, it's almost never just *one* of those bullet points. It's usually a combination of the above that clues you in to them being a griefer. Each of those alone, (except maybe the 'penis and a gun' one) wouldn't neccessarily indicate a person's intention.

Note also it isn't "just fat", usually it's "distorted" - one eye skewed up higher on the head, as much asymmetry as possible... It's usually pretty clear.

You get to around 6 out of 10 of those points, though, and odds are pretty good you know what they're up to.

That's why I carry a Spork. The Spork is mighty. The Spork confuses.

Cubey really needs to add a whacking animation to the Spork.

I don't know, I had some random guy show up in my house with his you know what out and a gun on his hip.. I just continued to be polite and visited with him and he left as quietly as he showed up.. /shrug

Although this would never happen, I would LOVE to see someone named Smelly Beaver become a productive resident, like a really successful clothing or furniture designer with a huge and diverse following. That's the only funny thing that can be drawn from names like that, unexpected success.

... Did it go something like ...


"Hello. My name is Chadwick, and this, here, is my dong. I -do- hate to intrude, but would you like to join us for tea?"

lol

Hey! I'm a productive member of SLociety!

(Plus I like heinders.)

And crumpets.

That's hilarious. LOL!!