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Michael Fairplay
Junior Member
Join date: 2 Jul 2004
Posts: 27
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04-06-2006 00:02
Reported three tonigh myself will be on the look out for the next few days on the money tree locations and will Abuse Report any I see. I have been giving the owners names as well as the crators names to linden lab. So if anyone wishes to not to be suspended my advise would be to stop dropping them!
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Jesrad Seraph
Nonsense
Join date: 11 Dec 2004
Posts: 1,463
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04-06-2006 02:00
This is turning into a very fun Easter Hunt !
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kali Byrd
Registered User
Join date: 25 Mar 2005
Posts: 5
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04-06-2006 02:23
have returned 4 from my island and reported each owner to lindens it is a pyramid type scam and they are looking into it , dont just delete them please send abuse report on the owner of doillar signs, and i also banned each when found
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madddyyy Schnook
SLGuides Virtual Worlds
Join date: 2 Jan 2006
Posts: 207
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04-06-2006 02:47
if you auto return the owners would know and return. if you delete it they dont, so i deleted mine in my club.
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Foolish Frost
Grand Technomancer
![]() Join date: 7 Mar 2005
Posts: 1,433
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04-06-2006 07:04
How about banning the repeat offenders? Keep them from having easy access to the land?
Not sure if it would work, but it's a thought. |
Corvus Drake
Bedroom Spelunker
Join date: 12 Feb 2006
Posts: 1,456
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04-06-2006 07:15
Make a script that fills your property with copies of them. Then donate the entire mass of them directly into the original owner's mailslot in their profile.
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KatanaBlade Anubis
House of Blade
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Posts: 369
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04-06-2006 08:55
There are various reasons people can't always use autoreturn - including not wanting to require a group, and also that auto-return can be buggy - I had a house destroyed by it. It still all comes down to the fact that just because you can put something on someone's land doesn't mean you should. Blaming those who own the land isn't addressing the problem. Ahhh well NEVER had problems with my stuff being destroyed or my group owned, Mainland or Island wise because of Auto return, unless someone forgot to set it to group, then it wasnt a bugg it just was careless on my/their part. Not Blaming the one who owns the land, but simply setting items to group (doesnt mean have to be group deeded land) Solves alot of litering problems. It is still the owners responsibilty to keep their own land cleaned. If it can't stay on the land it won't stay on the land, 1 minute returns keeps the land clean. Then you simply never see it and never stress over it. I have people trying to drop things all the time on the Island, Even thinking they can drop a whole store of junk. The funniest part is when they try dropping again after being cleaned. Then I usually IM them explaining they can't do that, most just don't know they can't. (not saying this guy doesnt know targeting money trees) But most people who are new know nothing about how land works and that people even own them. Addressing the problem, the problem is obvious that someone needs to be reported and banned from the land. (right clicking the object and reporting abuse). Good that people are warning eachother too. _____________________
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Usagi Musashi
UM ™®
Join date: 24 Oct 2004
Posts: 6,083
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04-06-2006 09:04
This is turning into a very fun Easter Hunt ! ![]() I don`t think so, casing them in boxs is really giving those abusers more attention in mind mind. I don`d feel this is fun after sending more then now 2+ days dealing with reporting and spending time dealing with it. |
KatanaBlade Anubis
House of Blade
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Posts: 369
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04-06-2006 09:06
Unfortunately sometimes it isn't that simple.. as I mentioned in my post.. when you are dealing with the limited land tools of the mainland grid, and also have inherited and are trying to keep alive legacy builds you were not a part of creating originally that have often multiple creators and you want to have your land open to the public.. group and auto-return just don't cut it. Maybe I am a specialized case.. but I have lost pieces to builds that there is no longer a player in world to do anything about to even replace.. I live in fear of one day logging in and the almost 3000 prim cathedral is gone that 3 other people build almost 2 years ago.. the price of trying to do some SL historic preservation and have it still able to be enjoyed by others. I own some mainland still, and started off on mainland. Tools are the same. Estates don't have that great of extra tools. but the about land is the same. The person that is no longer in SL that has build on your land, you probably need to decided eventually if it will stay or go unless you still own their mod rights then you can move it around. as far as whether they set it to your right group or not I don't know. Just a decision you will have to make down the road if you ever want to do something new with your land. If it is a historic preservation perhaps try to contact linden lab about helping to preserve it? This main subject is about scamming money trees right? I just want to mention to everyone there is another option. Partial off the money tree and just keep that on Auto return. It isnt like the Money Trees are gathering you some large amount of dwells anyways. _____________________
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Argent Stonecutter
Emergency Mustelid
![]() Join date: 20 Sep 2005
Posts: 20,263
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04-06-2006 09:12
His account was less then 2 weeks old when he scripted this. But... he's not really acting like scammers I've seen who've gotten caught in the past, so I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. That doesn't mean I think Linden Labs should necessarily allow him to continue to play: the consequences of a signal that LL condones this kind of behaviour are... amazingly bad. |
Jonas Pierterson
Dark Harlequin
Join date: 27 Dec 2005
Posts: 3,660
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04-06-2006 09:20
There was one by dreamer's teleport up when I went to an event earlier.. I told management and they remove dit.
These things are sick, preying on newbies.. |
Sean Martin
Yesnomaybe.
![]() Join date: 13 Sep 2005
Posts: 584
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04-06-2006 10:35
Unfortunately sometimes it isn't that simple.. as I mentioned in my post.. when you are dealing with the limited land tools of the mainland grid, and also have inherited and are trying to keep alive legacy builds you were not a part of creating originally that have often multiple creators and you want to have your land open to the public.. group and auto-return just don't cut it. Maybe I am a specialized case.. but I have lost pieces to builds that there is no longer a player in world to do anything about to even replace.. I live in fear of one day logging in and the almost 3000 prim cathedral is gone that 3 other people build almost 2 years ago.. the price of trying to do some SL historic preservation and have it still able to be enjoyed by others. Wow I had no idea land managment was that bad. I would think fixing that problem would be a logical choice for LL. Or is it one of those things that they can't figure how to get around? Oh and about the $ object. Does the report abuse on an item still work? I haven't been in the game for a bit and can't check. If every one of us reported those things then the Lindens would probably listen. Because it is a misleading object isn't it? I think that is pretty low. Oh and the camping on the other hand I'd say isn't a scam only because of one reason. Both people, owner and camper, know what they are getting into. And everyone else is an outsider who just hates seeing it. ![]() It does need to be replaced by something that works better though. But something that is outright misleading to people isn't cool. _____________________
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Ordinal Malaprop
really very ordinary
![]() Join date: 9 Sep 2005
Posts: 4,607
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04-06-2006 10:53
I see the first action has appeared on the police blotter.
Date: Thursday, April 6, 2006 Violation: Terms of Service: Script Exploitation Region: Burns Description: Scripted pyramid scheme. Action taken: Suspended 3 days. http://secondlife.com/community/blotter.php (Yes, I am bored enough to check the police blotter.) |
Adriana Caligari
Registered User
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Posts: 458
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04-06-2006 11:01
If you wanna help stopping these things
try this http://www.slexchange.com/modules.php?name=Marketplace&file=item&ItemID=74591 Free and copiable Just drop it on the ground and it finds the nearest Magic Money and covers it so it cannot be paid. It also covers up the text so no one can read it. (Please ask landowners permission beforee using) If it doesnt find one within 10m it deletes itself. |
Jesrad Seraph
Nonsense
Join date: 11 Dec 2004
Posts: 1,463
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04-06-2006 11:07
Oooh, clever, garbled llSetText to mask the other object's set text
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Either Man can enjoy universal freedom, or Man cannot. If it is possible then everyone can act freely if they don't stop anyone else from doing same. If it is not possible, then conflict will arise anyway so punch those that try to stop you. In conclusion the only strategy that wins in all cases is that of doing what you want against all adversity, as long as you respect that right in others.
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Sean Martin
Yesnomaybe.
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Posts: 584
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04-06-2006 11:14
If you wanna help stopping these things try this http://www.slexchange.com/modules.php?name=Marketplace&file=item&ItemID=74591 Free and copiable Just drop it on the ground and it finds the nearest Magic Money and covers it so it cannot be paid. It also covers up the text so no one can read it. (Please ask landowners permission beforee using) If it doesnt find one within 10m it deletes itself. Sweet ![]() _____________________
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Cristiano Midnight
Evil Snapshot Baron
![]() Join date: 17 May 2003
Posts: 8,616
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04-06-2006 11:40
Ahhh well NEVER had problems with my stuff being destroyed or my group owned, Mainland or Island wise because of Auto return, unless someone forgot to set it to group, then it wasnt a bugg it just was careless on my/their part. Not Blaming the one who owns the land, but simply setting items to group (doesnt mean have to be group deeded land) Solves alot of litering problems. It is still the owners responsibilty to keep their own land cleaned. I am glad you have never had problems with it, that doesn't mean that no one else has. I had my house set to my land group, and it sat perfectly fine on the land for nearly a year, even with autoreturn turned on, and then one day it just magically started autoreturning piece by piece. I've had it happen on another plot of land as well - items that were set to group were still returned (while interestingly, items not in any group stayed). There have been reported bugs with it. I am glad you are blaming it on carelessness though, you seem still quick to blame the land owner just because your experience has been different. Yes, it is the responsibility of the land owner to manage their land - but the land management tools are piss poor, and again, still buggy. The bottom line is it comes down to other people lacking the respect not to dump shit all over someone's land just because they can. PS - my money trees are parcelled off - they just look for the closest land outside of that where they can put them if they can't put them right by the tree. _____________________
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Usagi Musashi
UM ™®
Join date: 24 Oct 2004
Posts: 6,083
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04-06-2006 11:58
I see the first action has appeared on the police blotter. http://secondlife.com/community/blotter.php (Yes, I am bored enough to check the police blotter.) only 3 days ![]() |
Argent Stonecutter
Emergency Mustelid
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Posts: 20,263
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04-06-2006 11:58
Oh and the camping on the other hand I'd say isn't a scam only because of one reason. Both people, owner and camper, know what they are getting into. |
Usagi Musashi
UM ™®
Join date: 24 Oct 2004
Posts: 6,083
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04-06-2006 12:07
I also seeing people using this as a form of game.........litter is not funny or cute! LLabs is taking action but the sooner then better!
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Adriana Caligari
Registered User
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Posts: 458
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04-06-2006 12:34
LLabs is taking action but the sooner then better! Said that right - 3days ? - What's that ? "Oh I will just come back Sunday and try something different..." (Could have hit a weekend player on wednesday and they would never have noticed) |
Clarrice Cinquetti
\m/ ôô \m/
![]() Join date: 20 Jul 2005
Posts: 259
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04-06-2006 12:41
I had 2 IM's this morning from very nice residents letting me know I had a Magic Money dollar sign in my teleport area. I really appreciated that.
![]() I don't use auto return because many of our friends place chairs, club stuff, tip jars etc. around and I just check twice a day for lost planes, house parts, etc. and return them. Someone left the cutest floppy earred bunny by a bench yesterday, I hope the owner doesn't come get it ![]() _____________________
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KatanaBlade Anubis
House of Blade
![]() Join date: 20 Jun 2004
Posts: 369
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04-06-2006 13:59
I am glad you have never had problems with it, that doesn't mean that no one else has. I had my house set to my land group, and it sat perfectly fine on the land for nearly a year, even with autoreturn turned on, and then one day it just magically started autoreturning piece by piece. I've had it happen on another plot of land as well - items that were set to group were still returned (while interestingly, items not in any group stayed). There have been reported bugs with it. I am glad you are blaming it on carelessness though, you seem still quick to blame the land owner just because your experience has been different. Yes, it is the responsibility of the land owner to manage their land - but the land management tools are piss poor, and again, still buggy. The bottom line is it comes down to other people lacking the respect not to dump shit all over someone's land just because they can. PS - my money trees are parcelled off - they just look for the closest land outside of that where they can put them if they can't put them right by the tree. Glad you don't have a piss poor attitude towards others that are only expressing their opinions and experiences. ![]() _____________________
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Jade Steele
Midian City
Join date: 5 Dec 2004
Posts: 40
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04-06-2006 14:13
There was one by dreamer's teleport up when I went to an event earlier.. I told management and they remove dit. These things are sick, preying on newbies.. Jonas, thank you for letting us know. I find several of these a day at Dreamers. So far I have been banning the owners and since it appears the Lindens are taking action, I will abuse report them in the future. I deleted another one just a couple of hours ago by our teleport but couldn't ban the person from the land. The account didn't show up. Maybe that is the person on the police blotter? Anyway, thanks again ![]() |
bafilius Goff
Registered User
Join date: 19 Mar 2006
Posts: 31
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04-06-2006 16:31
It may not count for much but whenever I get a commission off of someone who sold one I discourage them from placing more.
Also, I've been recieving less and less commissions, so either someone has hacked them to cut me out of the loop or the problem is waining. Still donating profits to charities either ways. |