Communist Infiltration of SL Increasing
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Magnum Serpentine
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04-04-2006 20:35
First of all,
I do not see any problem with the weekly pay. It is a reward for us using the game and in some instances like me, its a promiss for paying US$225.00 for a lifetime membership account.
I think there are like 2500 people in the World who have more than 1 billion dollars. these are the people I am talking about when I say that the super rich should be forced to pay a tax that would send money directly to the Poor, not to some christian organization which would buy soup for the poor and with the bulk of the money, send their pastor or leaders on European vacations. I say the poor should be paid directly so to avoid having the money go to the wrong hands. If the Christians could be trusted I would say send it to them but they cannot be trusted.
The Republicans typically attack any mention of handouts because they think its not right that they had to work and those less fortunate or able get help. I went to a meeting once where a famous evangalist(SP) said to the audience that if a man were to loose his arms and legs, he can still work just put a headset on him and he can work as a tele-operator and since he does not have to move he can work 14 hours a day and since he does not have to own a car he can earn less money.
The Republicans also attack people who go after those 2,500 billionares because they are simply blindly trying to defend their money backers and nothing more. This is not a fault its mis-placed trust and loyality. It could also be blind loyality.
I am totally and permenatly disabled. I get money from the Government. My fear, is that the Republicans will stop the disability payments I get and force me to live in a nursing home or some other structure just so they will have more money.
Good day
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Magnum Serpentine
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04-04-2006 20:38
From: Toy LaFollette Mags..... define 'rich' please Those who possess 1 billion dollars or more in money
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Jopsy Pendragon
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04-04-2006 20:42
You, bolshi slackers get back to work.
This is Communist SecondLife. EVERYONE works and NO one gets paid.
You get what the proletariat thinks you deserve. (which is nothing because we won't think about you at all).
The price of Vodka is dropping. Mash more potatoes!
Mash Mash! Mash until your feet freeze in the permafrost of SimBeeria.
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Jamie Bergman
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04-04-2006 20:46
From: Magnum Serpentine It is not. It is Not
Many of the old money have no ideal where they got it. Its time to take from the rich and give to the poor No offense, but thats crazy. How can you have tons of money and NOT know where it came from?! LOL!!!
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Reitsuki Kojima
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04-04-2006 20:46
From: Magnum Serpentine I think there are like 2500 people in the World who have more than 1 billion dollars. What you think has no bearing on reality. The most recent Forbes list I could find, which is four years old, lists 490 people around the world with a net worth of 1 billion USD or more. From: Magnum Serpentine these are the people I am talking about when I say that the super rich should be forced to pay a tax that would send money directly to the Poor Why? From: Magnum Serpentine I say the poor should be paid directly so to avoid having the money go to the wrong hands. If the Christians could be trusted I would say send it to them but they cannot be trusted. I trust the individual no more than the collective. From: Magnum Serpentine The Republicans typically attack any mention of handouts because they think its not right that they had to work and those less fortunate or able get help. I went to a meeting once where a famous evangalist(SP) said to the audience that if a man were to loose his arms and legs, he can still work just put a headset on him and he can work as a tele-operator and since he does not have to move he can work 14 hours a day and since he does not have to own a car he can earn less money. It's heartless, but the basic sentiment is correct - Anyone can do SOMETHING that someone will pay for. It's just a matter of marketing yourself right. From: Magnum Serpentine The Republicans also attack people who go after those 2,500 billionares because they are simply blindly trying to defend their money backers and nothing more. This is not a fault its mis-placed trust and loyality. It could also be blind loyality. I attack theives. You do the math. From: Magnum Serpentine I am totally and permenatly disabled. I get money from the Government. My fear, is that the Republicans will stop the disability payments I get and force me to live in a nursing home or some other structure just so they will have more money.
Good day The fact that you are here typing suggests you have some marketable skills. I'm not actually against disability payments - but most people I know who get them could work, too.
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Reitsuki Kojima
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04-04-2006 20:48
Oh, by the way - that same Forbes list, in every single case lists the origin of the money. So no, they do not "have no idea where it came from".
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Nolan Nash
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04-04-2006 20:52
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Allana Dion
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04-04-2006 21:17
From: Magnum Serpentine I say that the super rich should be forced to pay a tax that would send money directly to the Poor, not to some christian organization which would buy soup for the poor and with the bulk of the money, send their pastor or leaders on European vacations. I say the poor should be paid directly so to avoid having the money go to the wrong hands. If the Christians could be trusted I would say send it to them but they cannot be trusted. While I've found most of what you've said to be only mildly amusing... this one I take offense to. You are making a generalization based on your biases and no actual facts. I volunteer at a local food bank for the poor. (my "job" is to package groceries into boxes to give away to the long line of people standing at the door every week) It's run every thursday afternoon from the back room of a catholic church. ALL money donated to the food bank goes to buy food and nothing else. There are no salaries paid to the volunteers. None of the money goes to the church itself. In fact they don't even pay rent for the rooms they use. People can donate by dropping either money or food into containers kept inside the church and believe me, every penny and every can goes JUST to the hungry. I'm not a religious person myself, I'm there for the food bank people not for the church. But the statement you made isn't based on fact, it is based on your own dislike for religious institutions. From: someone I went to a meeting once where a famous evangalist(SP) said to the audience that if a man were to loose his arms and legs, he can still work just put a headset on him and he can work as a tele-operator and since he does not have to move he can work 14 hours a day and since he does not have to own a car he can earn less money. While I'm not especially fond of most evangalists myself.... based on other things you've said I think it's safe to assume you seriously misunderstood what you thought you heard. EDIT: Oh and for the record... My son who unlike me IS a christian, is in an apprenticeship program to be a youth pastor. The last seminar they went to all the pastors paid for their own transportation and other expenses. The only thing the church paid for was two motel rooms for all four men and two women to share. Four men in one room and riding down there on a bus... sounds like some vacation.
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Michael Seraph
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04-04-2006 21:17
From: Magnum Serpentine And how many people did the Christians kill in Europe and Arabia and Asia? 1 billion... 2 billion??? ROTFL! A BILLION? LOL. When did Christians kill a BILLION? Where were there a billion people to kill? The population of the planet didn't exceed a billion until the mid 1800's and didn't go over 2 billion until the mid 1900's. Nobody of any group has killed a billion humans. Not even the Christians. LOL
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Magnum Serpentine
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04-04-2006 21:18
The comments on this post by the Republicans are totally heartless and wrong.
You assume I type. There are other ways of getting text to the screen, eye scanning devices, voice etc.
Disabled people CANNOT WORK. yet as the typical republican daydream goes, anyone should work but the super rich (Those above 1 billion dollars)
The Republicans would love to end all assistance for the poor just so they can go on their European Vacations.
Yes you made me extremely angery Republican.
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Dmitri Polonsky
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04-04-2006 21:19
From: Jamie Bergman Much to the chagrin of true capitalists everywhere, the Communist infiltration of SL is approaching dangerous levels. The communists have (nearly) succeeded in devaluing the L$ by 20% over the past few months. Additionally, their influence has strongarmed LL into maintaining stipends (which is money LL simply creates out of thin air) which is flooding the SL platform with a sea of L$s, leading to further devaluation. Moreover, lately they have increased their activity in the forum sector, escalating their socialist rhetoric to previously unseen levels. More and more forum posts demand "free" content and welfare. But nothing is free! The more LL hands out, the more we all pay. There is no free lunch. Somebody always pays. These recent antics are evidence that the communist element of SL has stepped up their game and taken craftiness to a new level. They are much more organized and much more efficient than ever before. Hopefully, LL will use some of the $11 million dollar funding it received to ward off these dangerous elements before SL undergoes a communist revolution and we all end up standing in bread queues and using Pravada as toilet paper. We must stop this infiltration!! Personally I think we'd be much better off stopping the corruption of some business owners who prey on new folks buy packing and selling free content. Notice I did NOT mention any names. However capitolism is not at the root of this thread. More like fleecing is.
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Reitsuki Kojima
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04-04-2006 21:22
From: Magnum Serpentine The comments on this post by the Republicans are totally heartless and wrong. Heartless, yes. Wrong, you have yet to prove. Actually, in every factual way so far, you have been shown to be wrong, by outside statistics, not emotion and feeling. So, I think I'm comming out ahead on the "wrong" thing. From: Magnum Serpentine You assume I type. There are other ways of getting text to the screen, eye scanning devices, voice etc. All of which could be employed in some way. Look at Steven Hawking. From: Magnum Serpentine Disabled people CANNOT WORK. yet as the typical republican daydream goes, anyone should work but the super rich (Those above 1 billion dollars) No, "disabled people" can work. SOME people may not be able to work, but I know a number of people personally that are considered "disabled" by law who could work just fine. From: Magnum Serpentine The Republicans would love to end all assistance for the poor just so they can go on their European Vacations. We would? Where did we say that? From: Magnum Serpentine Yes you made me extremely angery Republican. Frankly, I don't care.
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Dmitri Polonsky
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04-04-2006 21:23
From: Reitsuki Kojima What does it matter if they know where it comes from or not? Or if they earned it? I want to see a source for that statistic, by the way. Actually had you paid attention during the last major elections in the US you would have seen some rather interesting and true statistics.....one of which is that the top 1% of richest people in the USA have more cash than all the rest of the population COMBINED. Also expressed as a ratio they bear far less of the tax burden than the rest.
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Michael Seraph
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04-04-2006 21:25
From: Magnum Serpentine And you do not address the fact that many of the upper rich (Top 3%) do not even know where their money came from and did nothing to earn it. Who cares? It's THEIR money. Yes they should pay their share of taxes. Yes we should have government incentives that encourage people to donate to charities. No, we shouldn't go around taking other people's property simply because they have more than others. You want a couple of examples of the amazing generosity? How about the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation or the Howard Hughs Medical Institute. Both of those have done amazing things for the less fortunate. Things that wouldn't have been possible without huge amounts of money. Money that wouldn't be there if your plan to redistribute it was enacted. Sheesh, and I'm a liberal....
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Einsman Schlegel
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04-04-2006 21:25
Why isn't this in land and economy?
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Reitsuki Kojima
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04-04-2006 21:26
From: Dmitri Polonsky Actually had you paid attention during the last major elections in the US you would have seen some rather interesting and true statistics.....one of which is that the top 1% of richest people in the USA have more cash than all the rest of the population COMBINED. Also expressed as a ratio they bear far less of the tax burden than the rest. Actually, I already knew that statistic. It's not the statistic I asked for, nor is it relevent.
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Dmitri Polonsky
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04-04-2006 21:26
From: Lina Pussycat uhhhhh what you just stated would make the U.S communist in retrospect IE disablitiy welfare etc. Asking for a handout has nothing to do with communism. In fact what the people of the world know as communism is in fact a facist dictatorship based partially off Karl Marx's idea. A true communist society would be eutopian where everyone was equal and had the same exact amount of money~! Actually the closest thing to real communism in this world is the Hebrew Kibbutz. better look up definitions before they start labelling huh?
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Dmitri Polonsky
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04-04-2006 21:29
From: Jamie Bergman So sad. You'll continue to propogate your communistic bs everywhere because you have nothing else to do. Go work or something capitalistic. Since when is speaking out against theft and misrepresentation communist? I think all businesses should be reputable and honest in thier dealings. What you are espousing is not capitolism it's predation on those less fortunate. I'd be willing to bet if I sold you something free for around 600 L's you'd scream like a stuck pig.LOL
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Star Sleestak
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04-04-2006 21:29
From: Ketra Saarinen And don't forget Dihydrogen Monoxide! That chemical is responsible for countless deaths and incalculable property damage. Something should be done! Didn't a huge wave of that chemical kill thousands of people in Asia lately? More dangerous than the bird flu!
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Dmitri Polonsky
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04-04-2006 21:31
From: Jamie Bergman Ok, I do see your point. However, isn't asking for a handout the same as communism? I mean, you want it without working. Its a re-distribution of income, which is the heart of communist doctrine, is it not? Ok, let's take this one step further..how is it that the work of merely taking free transferable content, or purchasing cheap transfer content and repacking it for a high dollar sale to those too new to know any better not getting a handout fromm the ones who worked hard on that content? You're screaming about something you're doing.LMMFAO
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Dmitri Polonsky
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04-04-2006 21:40
From: Jamie Bergman So sad. You'll continue to propogate your communistic bs everywhere because you have nothing else to do. Go work or something capitalistic. I'd say let Jamie spout this.....it's good for entertainment value to really know how ridiculous ppl can be ( plus I don't have to stay up late to watch Springer this way...hehehe). and remember, those who can create...those who can't run overstock stores.LOL
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Selene Gregoire
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04-04-2006 21:43
From: Michael Seraph ROTFL! A BILLION? LOL. When did Christians kill a BILLION? Where were there a billion people to kill? The population of the planet didn't exceed a billion until the mid 1800's and didn't go over 2 billion until the mid 1900's. Nobody of any group has killed a billion humans. Not even the Christians. LOL I'm not saying this is fact, but, if you were to go back through written history and start adding up all the death tolls from things like the Crusades and other holy wars including WWII, the number of people killed "in the name of Christianity" could very well add up to a billion. [left] The burden of Christian responsibility for Jewish suffering over the centuries is very great, indeed scandalous. The churches were transmitters rather than combatters of medieval myths, which endured and were modernized, and profoundly affected the thinking and feelings of the elites and the masses. When the test came, the churches were true to their religious traditions--they failed to resist, and fell among the bystanders who were indifferent to the victims or supportive of the perpetrators. Historians estimate that seven to ten million Jews were killed before the Holocaust, most under Christian auspices; in the reckoning of Irvin Borowsky, "in the past thousand years one out of every two Jews born into the world has been murdered."[/left] [left][/left] [left][/left] [left] ---Edward H. Flannery, The Anguish of the Jews, rev. and updated ( New York: Paulist Press, 1985), 349 n. 1; Borowsky, Foreword, Overcoming Fear between Jews and Christians, American Interfaith Institute, xii. [/left] [left][/left] [left][/left] [left][/left] [left][/left] [left][/left] [left] Jewish Death Toll from 1939 to 1945:[/left] [left] (Approximate numbers by nations)[/left] [left][/left] [left][/left] [left][/left] [left][/left] [left] Norway: 868[/left] [left] Denmark: 120[/left] [left] Holland: 106,000[/left] [left] Belgium: 24,000[/left] [left] Luxembourg: 700[/left] [left] France: 83,000[/left] [left] Germany: 125,000[/left] [left] Austria: 70,000[/left] [left] Italy: 7,500[/left] [left] Estonia: 1,000[/left] [left] Latvia, Lithuania, Poland and Western USSR: 4,565,000[/left] [left] Czechoslovakia: 277,000[/left] [left] Hungary: 300,000[/left] [left] Yugoslavia: 60,000[/left] [left] Greece: 65,000[/left] [left] Rumania: 264,000[/left] [left][/left] [left][/left] [left] http://www.hcacentre.org/DeathToll.html[/left] [left] [/left] [left] [/left] [left] [/left] [left] [/left] [left]After NINE Crusades:[/left] [left] From: someone The death toll of these expeditions will never be known accurately for either side, but it is certain that it numbered hundreds of thousands, and possibly millions. Most of the dead were Christians. In fact Christian forces themselves may have killed as many Christians and Jews as they did Moslems. [/left] [left] http://www.heretication.info/_moslems.html[/left] [left]I am niether condemning nor condoning "religous wars". Just putting forth a few facts. To reiterate, it is very possible that the number of people killed "in the name of Christianity" in the last 2000 years, does range in the billions. [/left]
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Michael Seraph
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04-04-2006 21:43
As far as disability goes, there is a real difference between able to do some work and able to make a living. Very often the disabled are the ones volunteering to help other disabled people. I had a paraplegic cousin who couldn't make a living and was on disability, but spent the time he could work helping others on a crisis line.
My partner has AIDS. When he got his disability he was too sick to be able to hold a regular job. As the medicines have improved his health has too, but he's stuck in a Catch-22 situation. If he goes back to work, he loses his medications. Then he gets sick again and, if he lives, goes back on disability.
The problem is that the right-wing-nut-jobs are opposed to any sort of civilized health care system in the USA. Of course, if we could get married, he'd go on my insurance, but the wing-nuts are against that too. If the conservatives were more interested in solving problems and not pushing their ideological agendas this country would be so much better off. Of course that would have meant that the war in Iraq wouldn't have happened either....
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Reitsuki Kojima
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04-04-2006 21:47
From: Selene Gregoire I'm not saying this is fact, but, if you were to go back through written history and start adding up all the death tolls from things like the Crusades and other holy wars including WWII, the number of people killed "in the name of Christianity" could very well add up to a billion. WWII was not "in the name of christianity", but even if it was, that would push it up to the high two-digit millions - still a long ways from a billion.
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I am myself indifferent honest; but yet I could accuse me of such things that it were better my mother had not borne me: I am very proud, revengeful, ambitious, with more offenses at my beck than I have thoughts to put them in, imagination to give them shape, or time to act them in. What should such fellows as I do crawling between earth and heaven? We are arrant knaves, all; believe none of us.
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Selene Gregoire
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04-04-2006 21:49
From: Reitsuki Kojima WWII was not "in the name of christianity", but even if it was, that would push it up to the high two-digit millions - still a long ways from a billion. REad the whole thing please: Historians estimate that seven to ten million Jews were killed before the Holocaust, **most under Christian auspices;** in the reckoning of Irvin Borowsky, "in the past thousand years one out of every two Jews born into the world has been murdered." I also did say at the bottom of my post that if you add up the numbers from over **2000 years** it **could** add up to over a billion. I did not say it would.
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