Do you think the people behind sl-escorts.com should be banned from SL?

I think it's obvious from reading the reviews what his motives are, Jade, I'm not sure what questions remain. He gave good reviews to people he already knew and liked, like Khannea and Alyssa, who (as I understand it) were aware in advance they were being reviewed. Meanwhile other escorts are unaware that they are being reviewed, and get slammed for not conforming with his narrow ideas of what makes a good escort. I'd hate to cyber with someone who made some typos, that is such a turn off. LOL.

Do I think he should be banned for this? Probably not, to be honest, since it's a third party site. Do I think he is a really lame loser? Yes.


Kyushu

If you actually looked at the website, you'd know how dumb that comment was. -.- Quit trolling!

Yea, but aren't reviews supposed to be subjective? I mean Ebert doesn't always agree with Roper. Does that mean one of them is wrong?

Also, the fact that you can point out the specific subjective criteria that you disagree with means that he is doing a good job. If you like short,quick sentences then you will probably agree with his reviews. If you don't, then you will probably disagree with his reviews and hire one of the 2 star whores from his site.

I personally find sex with girls to be icky, so should I pan his site for being subjective because he is heterosexual?

Reviews are subjective. This is not news.

I think calling for the ban of someone who does something completely outside the game .... i.e. on a 3rd party website, just because you don't like what he says, well, I think thats trolling.

Good effort for your 2nd post though ...

I'm speaking on behalf of friends who actually ARE escorts and who would rather NOT have this sort of thing happen. Not because they have a "bad review" written about them, but because this IS a matter of privacy. >_< The service is public, correct. But the actual ACT is private, especially if one party involved did not consent to having the chatlog posted somewhere for the world to see.

As for posting these on a 3rd party website, the problem here is, he posted a link to the website on the forums, which has the chatlogs ON it. My question is: wouldn't that technically be posting them on the forums? Maybe he isn't posting the chatlogs directly, but all you do is click on the link, and its there.

The point is, you're able to access these chatlogs through the forums, because he posted the link to a website with said chatlogs, aquired WITHOUT the consent of one of the parties involved, on this forum. Its HERE. On the forums.

And just because someone doesn't back this guy, doesn't mean he wrote a bad review about them on his website. Some of us are generally concerned about other peoples' privacy, especially if some of the people involved happen to be friends of yours. Next time, don't assume everyone offended are the ones who are being targeted. >_<

It's not a problem, but the straw you snatch at in hopes of making it one.



Either they don't want a bad rating or they are ashamed to be publically known as escorts.

If it's the first, well, I have no sympathy. If it's the second, then they have all my sympathy, but also my puzzled stare as I wonder why they do something they are ashamed of just to make enough $L to buy some new clothes or hair.

That's not true. Every whore knows she is selling the whole experience.

When did it become a crime to tell your friends about the whore you fucked last night?

WOW.. interesting points of view here. You know... most of the girls that were reviewed, work at the Barbie Club... anyone notice the advertisement on top of the page.. Barbie Club.

Now if he posted these private chats in game, or in the forums, then its against the TOS and should be banned. Since this is off site and it really is a service, he has done nothing wrong.

LOL seriously, I am not surprised someone hasnt reviewed this "service" before. Almost 3 years in SL and I think this is the first time I have seen this. Good read lol

EDIT: Actually, I would rather not widen this arguement.

In some countries - such as my homeland - its become part of our culture! Running down the Pub to tell all your mates .. a time honored tradition, makes me proud to be Australian (wipes tear from eye).

He neither remotely logged nor posted the trranscripts on SL or its forums. No EUA violation.

Reviews should be done in secrecy to prevent alteration or difference from normal service.

First admendment doesn't apply on SL or its forums, period.

His site shoudl stay up if he pays for it.

NY post takes ads, and does unbiased reviews. All major newspapers do.

Don't get bamboozled by those crying privacy or invasion.. there is none here.

I see alot of people giving their opinions. I don't know Mr DeGroot but I think it's important to think on the facts. Therefore, here's the top 10 facts about Jereon DeGroot, Second Life and you.

1. Jereon's website is one man's opinion; his.
2. You don't have to read Jereon's website if you dont like it.
3. You don't have to be an escort if the possibility of being judged worries you.
4. Consumers have a right to know if something they pay for has been found satisfying or dissatisfying by other consumers.
5. The management staff of Amsterdam has told their escorts anyone dealing with Jereon or mentioning his name or the name of anyone advertising or supporting his website will be fired and banned.
6. Escorts and the places who offer escorting have the right to advertise with Jereon's website.
7. Jereon has not violated the EULA or TOS of Second Life.
8. Jereon has the right to spend his own cash on sexual experiences in order to write about them.
9. The Second Life Escorts blog is not harmful.
10 Only a person with low sense of self would feel harmed by what one stranger writes about them in his online diary.

After reading Jereon's website, I can only determine that it is fair and provides a service to its readers in several ways. It exposes the escorts who are not good and who are most likely only out to get your money. It provides a place for Second Life businesses and escorts to advertise. It allows its readers to leave feedback on the participants as well as his own comments. If at first you don't succeed try try again and happy escorting.

He doesnt make any claims to being a great lover, and as I understand it he is not

i wonder how much more traffic this has brought that website?

stroker and the barbie club are laughing all the way to the bank.

O.K. Can someone tell me if I have this correct.

This guy is facing a ban because of his blog? And if that is the reason, what does what this guy does on his own personal blog have to do with sl? If he wants to write a blog about how much he hates sl he can.

Haha what a bunch of tripe that site is, funny as shite nonetheless. I’ll bet he isn’t facing a ban, but rather sought the free publicity he knew he would receive in posting such claptrap. Pure genius if you ask me.

...oh geeez....

You know one of the things I like about Second Life forums? It's that you can never predict ahead of time what people will be talking about.

I just have to laugh.

Oh, just let him have his little site... Those will discernment will know what to make of it. Those who don't have discernment will simply continue with whatever they would have thought anyway.

His reputation is already in the gutter for those who think he's wrong and ascending for those already on his side.

...and, meanwhile, life goes on. (la de da!)

Was an eyeopener for me - and to be honest I did get a giggle.. but it made me wonder... I could like put down 10k for a girl or two and have them come over and hang out in my pools.. I could do like 'Horray Hummer Tuesdays! -- Free BJ with every Beachtowel'

Dunno - sounds like a win win win situation to me.

A whole thread disparaging an entire group of SL players in the title?

I have summoned the ResMods and the Keystone Cops because I cannot decide who produces better slapstick.

I was just seeing if Elle would move it to products and services

do i think he should be banned no but i think he should limit it to willing escorts only he by his own words rates and reviews girls without consent to me this is wrong i have no objection to him rating and reviewing girls with there consent i myself would paricipate in that case

but i don't like him doing it with consent

SL escorts are offering a service/product for a price.
Anyone who charges money for their service or product should be susceptable to the same reviews and rates as anyone else who does it, no matter what they're selling.

If content creators/sellers can be reviewed on blogs without their consent or prior knowledge, then escorts, DJs, event hosts, advertising agents or anyone else who provides a service should be as well. It's either wrong in all cases, or in none of them.

Personally, I think the profession is silly, but if they're making money off of it without hurting anyone else, then more power to them. The fact that their chat logs might be more entertainment fodder than a picture of a badly made pair of pants shouldn't make any difference. If you charge money, expect to be critiqued.

not true....he has no interest if free sex...spends rediculous amounts of money

I haven't the slighest idea what this post is about. Should escorts be banned? Of course not unless you are a Taliban or some other religious nut with a drum to beat and you think you are so supreme that you can dictact your beliefs on others.

Oh my good God...bwahahahaha!!!