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how to make possible libel permanent

Introvert Petunia
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02-28-2006 16:39
So the esteemed moderators locked a thread on the grounds that:
the forums are a public area for the Second Life community’s use. Individuals who have a dispute with each other have other channels of communication to discuss their differences or communicate – private messaging, IM within Second Life, or chatting within Second Life. Also, threads that are addressed to a single individual or group are inappropriate on the forums, this includes slander or "naming names" in a posts title, starting polls about a particular resident or group, etc.
Is there a school where you can go learn to moderate ineptly as that? Did you know that you can delete a thread instead of just locking it?

I don't even have an opinion on the matter nor do I know any of the players involved. What I do know, is that true, false, or indeterminate, the accusation stands in forum history and can neither be defended, refuted, supported, nor negated. In fact I think that my pointing out this ham-fisted schoolmarm approach might just bring the ruler down on my knuckles.

Brilliant.
nimrod Yaffle
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02-28-2006 16:43
I think if you link to a locked thread, or refer to one, the new thread will be locked to.. IBTD
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02-28-2006 16:44
From: someone
I think if you link to a locked thread, or refer to one, the new thread will be locked to.. IBTD
That's the beauty, eh? No one knows. :D
Siggy Romulus
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02-28-2006 16:56
No thread contains slander.

Slander is spoken.
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Starax Statosky
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02-28-2006 17:07
From: nimrod Yaffle
I think if you link to a locked thread, or refer to one, the new thread will be locked to.. IBTD



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Sean Martin
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02-28-2006 23:29
From: nimrod Yaffle
I think if you link to a locked thread, or refer to one, the new thread will be locked to.. IBTD

hmm if that were possible (I dunno if it is or not) then we can all link to a locked post just to lock another one we don't like? Heh :D
I guess there is always a loop hole somewhere. :o
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02-28-2006 23:32
From: nimrod Yaffle
I think if you link to a locked thread, or refer to one, the new thread will be locked to.. IBTD
ooo... would that be a new and more efficient way to grief threads into closure? post a bunch of links to closed threads? sounds quicker than posting a bunch of off-topic posts to a thread.
Lo Jacobs
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02-28-2006 23:54
From: nimrod Yaffle
*Edited by Jeska Linden*

My sig got nerfed.


Oooh, what did it say? :o
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Siggy Romulus
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03-01-2006 02:45
From: Lo Jacobs
Oooh, what did it say? :o


Musta been a doozy - mines still here :P
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From: Jesse Linden
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nimrod Yaffle
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03-01-2006 05:36
From: Siggy Romulus
Musta been a doozy - mines still here :P

Hahaha, it was when she was talking about what is and isn't appropriate for the forums. I just quoted the part that wasn't. The 'ok' part was "Stop your bitching." The non-ok part was "You're a b!tch!," which, could also be a personal attack? :-)

Edit: I'm sure if you put a locked thread linked in someone else's thread for the purpose of getting it closed/locked, they would catch on. Though, I could be wrong with the rule, but I remember someone starting a new thread that just had a link to the old one to continue the conversation. That got linked within a few hours, I guess this is ok then.
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StoneSelf Karuna
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03-01-2006 10:18
From: nimrod Yaffle
Edit: I'm sure if you put a locked thread linked in someone else's thread for the purpose of getting it closed/locked, they would catch on. Though, I could be wrong with the rule, but I remember someone starting a new thread that just had a link to the old one to continue the conversation. That got linked within a few hours, I guess this is ok then.
but wouldn't it be nice to have official linden say so?
nimrod Yaffle
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03-01-2006 11:08
From: StoneSelf Karuna
but wouldn't it be nice to have official linden say so?

Yes, I think I got my information from Jeska locking a thread that had the same potential as this one, and said that in the lock post.
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03-01-2006 11:47
From: StoneSelf Karuna
but wouldn't it be nice to have official linden say so?
What purpose would an official Linden say so serve?
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03-01-2006 11:50
Is there an official Linden? I can only imagine walking into a room and asking "Is there a Linden Official here?" and watching everyone point at someone else. :p
Corvus Drake
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03-01-2006 16:06
IBTL.


Introvert, more likely you'll see this.

"Don't mess with me, I'm an alt of a Linden".
StoneSelf Karuna
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03-01-2006 16:08
From: Khamon Fate
What purpose would an official Linden say so serve?
come to think of it ...
Steve Steed
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03-01-2006 16:39
I am Reporting this for Linden review.
Siggy Romulus
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03-01-2006 16:49
Why? It's in english.
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The Second Life forums are living proof as to why it's illegal for people to have sex with farm animals.

From: Jesse Linden
I, for one, am highly un-helped by this thread
Elle Pollack
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03-01-2006 16:50
In the past, Jeska has gone back later and edited locked posts to remove the named names or personal attacks. You can send an email to [email]abuse@lindenlab.com[/email] about the locked thread in question and I'll bring the thread in question to her attention as well.

In the meantime, yes posting links to locked threads isn't allowed. I'm not going to lock this thread at this time because I think the discussion is valid and falls within the rules, but I would ask that you remove the link.

From: someone
Reposting – If a moderator removes your post, do not repost it elsewhere. Do not repost threads that have been locked or deleted and do not repost content that has been edited or deleted by a moderator. Furthermore, please do not post a "why did my post get removed" post. Send any further discussion regarding post removals to [email]abuse@lindenlab.com[/email].
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03-01-2006 17:34
Elle's got it right, if an admin edits your post, please do not repost it elsewhere or post threads which say "why did you edit my post" - typically when I edit a post, I include information on why I am doing so to clarify. But if you're still confused, you should simply send an email to [email]abuse@lindenlab.com[/email] for more information.

Only in very extreme cases would we completely delete a thread, if there are things which should be removed (such as a personal attack), we will however edit out aggressively offensive personal attacks or other Community Standard violations to remove those statements that violate the Community Standards (with an accompanying statement explaining the violation and reason for edit).
Strife Onizuka
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03-01-2006 17:35
As ResMod:
I see this thread also in need of Linden review. It is nothing more then a personal attack against a LL employee.

The above mentioned thread was rightchously closed; there was no need to name names in it to get across the frustation. If this thread were intended to be a debate on forum policy it wouldn't go to such an extent to defame.

Edit: since we have had Linden review & other mod review I'll bow out :cool:
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03-01-2006 18:11
As a Self-Appointed ResMod:

I don't understand this thread at all. It makes me uneasy and causes my bowels to shift.

No one should read this thread. I shouldn't be reading this thread.

I'm leaving now to punish myself.
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03-01-2006 19:29
There's your ohfishal response Stone. Happy now?

Did I just attack you? Am I a bad Khamon?
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StoneSelf Karuna
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03-01-2006 19:41
From: Khamon Fate
There's your ohfishal response Stone. Happy now?

Did I just attack you? Am I a bad Khamon?
no, no, yes. ;)
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03-02-2006 10:06
I'll try harder. Here's another ohfishal response for you. All I can think to say to you in its light is ha ha ha, ha ha ha ha ha.

da i go da i go peanut butter jelly wid a baseball bat
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