Payment Info In Game Now - U Gotta B Kiddin Me Right ?!?!

oright ........... so sticking to the subject matter:

there have been both pros and cons given between all the comments just to comment. and yes, a better poll would probably help this. i do like the idea of asking for other forms of ID. i still think what this update included is an invasion of privacy in some form.

and i agree with instead of giving out payment info on file, they should have just chosen the terms "verified" or "unverified", to me that would be more respectful to those that pay to enjoy SL.

the material i sell is not of XXX matter or is that of anyone of my family, but I still think it's good to cover your ass with some sort of disclaimer on your property. and like one said, using the idea of "no shirt no shoes no service" they would not sell their product to an "unverified" account, that's totally your option. but unfortunately, it might make people think twice of what they've joined (newcomers).

intelligent opinions keep on coming, i'm open to listen.

If you honestly believe there is even the slightest chance of you going to jail because of the things you sell in SL, then we should talk about this really great bridge I have for sale. If you pay cash I will throw in a free toll booth to put on it!

Seriously, IM me in game and I will send you pics and info about it.

You know damn well that ppl means people. Dont be stupid, oh wait too late. You already are

The child using fraudulant ID, given or stolen, such as cellphones and credit cards MAKES them take the legal blame if they're willing to or not.

Now that none is required, the blame is up for grabs.

The only point I proved is that the system WORKED to give us a legally valid shield.

Actually I can sell those adult devices to everyone and be safe, I'll just write on the features notecard you get before buying that "If used by any unverified account, those lacking an billing info, the item will shut down and turn invisible, thus making it useless unless put on by another avatar, or your avatar after supplying billing info to linden labs"

There, I dont have to give a refund, the item doesnt work, tough for them yay for me!

I do agree though, it should say "Unverified" and "verified" not if you've actually paid anything out, just to make people feel safe.

Originally Posted by Cilis Nephilim
Go back to the teenie grid.

We need such information and scripts as a way to allow people more control over filtering who gets on their land, I'm sorry but all my adult products WILL NOT sell to anyone that doesnt have payment records in their profile.

I'm not going to go to jail just so someone can play on a grid they SHOULD NOT be on.
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MINORS HAVE CREDIT CARDS AND GET VERIFIED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

An account is verified by a credit card but credits card DONT TELL A PERSONS AGE.

There for even by keeping non verified ppl out of your store YOU WILL STILL BE SELLING XXX CRAP TO MINORS BECAUSE THEY TOO HAVE VERIEFIED ACCOUNTS!!!!!!

So once again this is not the solution!!!!!

Heh. Don't kick me into editor mode. The M2 isn't due out again til next Tuesday.

But yes, I agree. PLEASE, people, complete sentences. If I wanted shorthand, I'd hire a stenographer.

P2

It's not so much over the adult items that are sold. It's more about an adult inadvertently (or not) cyberscrewing some 14-year old.

I will remain faithful to my sweetie and be immune to such pitfalls, however.

P2

oright if that is what you believe cilis you're entitled to that opinion. but why post it out for everyone in SL to know? we all know that if it's a minor or a griefer behind the avie, LL will handle that ... or at least that's what they say they do. so does this benefit us? or is this a means to get out of the hot seat when something goes wrong? (excluding griefers because we all know that now their information gets sent to higher authorities, according to LL)

and how valid is it really? because we still don't know if the person is a minor trying to be sneaky or a griefer planning an attack or just an adult that prefers to keep their information private and still wants to enjoy the game. are we going according to what's happened in the past and just disregard all those that are unverified on a maybe?

You know, usually I *like* picking up obscure and seemingly pointless trivia...but this is one distinction I really resent wasting brain cells to know.

If a person is worried about cyberscrewing a 14 year old then dont cyber.

There is no 100% effective way to keep minors out. Unless a copy of an ID is faxed into sl befor activation an account. Just like all the other business do. But even then stolen cards will be faxed in or even fake ID's for that matter.

There are A LOT of honest adults that dont have verified accounts because of honest ligit reasons for why they dont have a credit card. Business will take a nose dive becase all those honest non verified adults cant buy your products.

CREDIT CARDS DO NOT SHOW A PERSONS AGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I find it useful to know, because they are two distinctly different social groups that one encounters and must deal with frequently online.

*faints* something we agree on lol

If they used a fake method of ID back prior to the change? I'd be absolved of wrong doing.

Now?

I'd go to jail...

Minors may have them, but it still legally shielded me.

People get all bent out of shape by the words in their profile about payment... They forget that they reveal so much about themselves every day with the little things.

Land owners have always had information on file, becase payment is a requirement for land. Older residents have payment histories just for the fact that they were around when an account cost money.

If you were to give these people a little icon in their profiles or a special privilege like a colored nickname or color text in their profiles, they would jump at it and never ask if these things revealed information about their account status. No, in fact it would show their status in a way that makes them feel important.

Then, the only people complaining would be those who are on the basic account, but what do they have to complain about? They are not paying.. It's a free service and you get what you pay for.

that's true baba, we've always had that information on file in a private matter between LL and the person paying. why broadcast it? and if broadcasting is necessary why not do so more respectfully?

Who knows? Probably went into testing phase and nobody thought to change it or throw it past marketing or community managers?

And why is PAYPAL not a verifiable account?

poor business etiquette if that's the case

It was a rush job, that's for sure. People got upset they tried to fix something without thinking about the best way to present it.

definitely a rush job, and with rush jobs come more errors *looks forward to the next update* :/

Yay another update. Just what i wanted!

My first language IS english, yet I still can't understand his first post. Not that I tried too hard.

After! reading all these post in this thread. How! can all you negativity people go on with your life, when you mock people with horrible spelling. What! comes around goes around.


~shakes hand~ >

Why not ?

My wife is as open minded as myself we may both enjoy it.

These days we are verified and I own an island, but my point is still valid, whether someone is verified or not is NOT information to be given out. and no good rating of a persons morals or ethics in a game.

Example 8 years ago on a game called meridian 59 on server 102, a griefer called warmonger I think was young but had a credit card which he used to buy 25 accounts , those 25 accounts he gave to all his friends to create pkers who would go out and killl grief people.

Nice things like kill someone then take there wedding ring and destroy it in front of them.

Money does not denote maturity

after all before Osama became the worlds bad boy, even though islamic he had quite a good credit rating and cards due to his familys wealth (not getting at islam but I know from a friend that ostentatious lifestyle is kinda frowned upon in some sects )

i think the dissallowing of ppl without billing info into land is good but, beign able anyone to se it is bad. sure griefers might use alts without info to grief. but nice ppl without a CC, can be bullied cause of it, if it just doesnt let them into some land, the whole world wont know, and maybe thas a bad thing, im not sure, mixed emotions....