YAY!!! Lindenlab says: AV Child Porn is considered not to be child pornography

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Its sad. Very very sad.

Congratulations you all lost!

I think people told you this a while back. Stands to reason; no child = no child porn.

Isn't this what everyone was saying?

Oh, wait, was your post sarchastic? Its early in the morning.

Erm. Just before Torley closes this thread... how did we lose? You seem to be suffering some sort of delusion, which would actually go a long way towards explaining your postings of the last week.

It was you that insisted that 1 x adult + 1 x adult == child porn.

It was you that demanded LL answer your deluded question.

It was you that was just proved wrong.

And now it's you that's making yourself look like a complete tit to anyone that bothered to read any of those threads.

*Hands aEoLuS a training bra*

Or a padded bra.

Or a padded cell.

I just can't understand why anyone would chose to start a thread that called attention to the fact they were utterly pwned.

Look nobody cares a thing about what everybody else is saying.

The only thing that is importante is what is Lindenlab saying.

They made there point. You can have AV Child Porn.

Now the FBI still thinks its worth a look into so still feel free to contact them.
Note: you still have to report it to Lindenlab too!

Here is a list of FBI Office Field Divisions:
http://www.fbi.gov/contact/fo/fo.htm

For people in the Netherlands try this:
Meldpunt kinderporno: http://www.meldpunt.org/default.htm
Also your local police should assist you with this.

For belgium people try this:
Centraal Gerechtelijk Meldpunt: http://www.gpj.be/nl/index.html

You still should report this to the one that is providing the space (the forum/web admin, the hostings provider etc etc and in our case Lindenlabs) but the encourage you to also send it to them.

Posted this before but they closed it in seconds!

Good ghods what a utter prat like thing to do, repost much? For someone so bloody concerned about rule of law you sure as fuck like to ignore the rules. They ought to ban your self righteous arse.

You are priceless!

(In the same way as you can't put a price on a steaming turd).

AEoLuS: LL, is this child porn?

LL: No.

AEoLuS: LL say you can have child porn!

yes but its not child porn because only adults are involved.

Look I am very sorry about this all. Mabey I should have not posted at all and let it all go.

It wasnt good what I did, made a complete ass out of myself.

I hope that some of you will forgive me for this.

Best regards,

aEoLuS Waves

Make your mind up. In the post I just quoted, your very last post, mere minutes ago, you asserted that it was child porn. Is it or isn't it?

You really do seem confused. But keep digging! I'm quite confident that eventually you'll reach a resolution that's satisfactory to us all!

Yeah right, figure only reason you'd own up to anything is in the feeble hope this will keep your fbi links up otherwise you'd have deleted the posts. Bollocks I say.

Thank you for your oppinion in this mather.
I could not delete the posts, that would make it all worse.
And yes I posted the links again because its very relevant. There was this website once where ppl had there private forums. The placed these "art pictures". When someone found out about the "art" she warned the website owner and they didnt do a thing. The considered this as "Art". She reported it and some people of importance talked with that website. Now the think that is was not "art" but it was something else. And they closed that forum, and changed their policy. They still are open for everyone. And a lot of ppl love their forums. But that kinda "art" wil be of it very fast when someone posts it.

did the "art" you speak of have real children it it?

So hoping to blackmail LL into doing what you want with the threat of the fbi even though no laws have been broken and nothing illegal is going on. You want to apply pressure anyway by virtue of a witch hunt investigation that could possibly damage the company. Brilliant. They really do need to permaban you.

Yay now maybe some people will shut the fuck up!

In a related story it was confirmed that the sky is blue and if banging your toe with a hammer causes pain.

Bring back the child pr0n threads!

Oh, wait, sorry, I meant to make that a poll with the options of, "For", "Against", and "Cowboy Neal". My apology!

As I understood it: no (because then it would be child porn) it had something todo with drawings of some kind. And not even sure it was about children.

Just tried to viualize it that if you think something is wrong and others think its not you can always ask someone that knows more about it what they think.

And who am I to decide what is Art and what is not. I thought that AV child porn was Child ponography but Lindenlab thinks its not. I never ever seen it here in SL. So mabey this stampede of me is complete waist of time (as they told me). But at least it made ppl think about this. So thats a good thing.

flibble

lol I am not in the power to blackmail LindenLab. And why should I?

I am not aplying presure at all. If I see something that I think its worth to file a abuse report for, I will. In this case you need to do more about it.

Same goes for racisme and stuff. You report and hope they will act (and Lindenlab did act on many times and that was/is very good!). But if you notice that that doesnt work (fighting windmils) you must report it to some place where ppl take it more serious.

But its up to you to decide. Nobody asking you to step up and do something.

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So you bitched and hollared and screamed about something you've never seen and have no evidence that it actually even happens?

And the only thing you drew attention to was that you're a prize hypocrite with no regard for the ToS (while wanting to amend and enforce it to suit your own opinions), the CS or the Lindens who keep telling you to stop it. And that you can't grasp a basic, fundamental statement even when hammered home 500 times: Child porn, by definition, has to involve children (and before anyone jumps in to correct me ... or look so real you'd think it was - but then we're not talking about SL, are we?)

So yes. It was a waste of time. Age play has been discussed and done to death long before you arrived, and you added NOTHING but humor at your expense to the discussion, because you were wrong from your very first post.

What exactly are you going to file an abuse report for that you see?

A short av with prim pigtails on a doggy ball getting taken by an taller AV?
What about Tink's School Sex Scenario box thingy majig? Gunna abuse report that?

How exactly can you PROVE child porn is going on in SL? SL is supposedly your world. your imagination. I-M-A-G-I-N-A-T-I-O-N being the key word here. Are we to assume that everyone that has a short AV is playing a child and is being taken advantage of by the big bad taller person? I mean yeah of course being forced on balls in sl against your will is rampant *rolls eyes*.

I really don't get why you are wasting so much energy on this. If you want to fight against this cause take it to REAL LIFE and fight it there, where people would appreciate your support and help much more.

the only way i can see SL being used in an illegal way (since you have to be 18 to use SL main grid) is to upload textures or video of real children

then you bet those of us who opposed your crusade would report it

Oh you where refering to age play?
Sory but you misunderstood me. I never was writing about age play.

If you folowed this all you noticed I got angry when a Linden responded in a thread. I got a bit angry about it and posted my post. I was so stupid to post a poll with only yes/no. But the comunity voted and it was good to see all those polite and friendly posts with their point of views.

Again sorry that i hurt your feelings about this. Lindenlab answered what they answered and we all have to deal with that. I felt it more then right to post it in General. At least you could be very happy now. You won and you lost. We all won and lost.

It was great reading your posts, I learned a lot from it.

Best wishes,

aEoLuS Waves