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YAY!!! Lindenlab says: AV Child Porn is considered not to be child pornography
Willow Zander
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03-30-2006 00:25
From: Mulch Ennui
the only way i can see SL being used in an illegal way (since you have to be 18 to use SL main grid) is to upload textures or video of real children

then you bet those of us who opposed your crusade would report it



Indeedy, but then it would be AV child porn would it :p, unless of course you made a prim av out of the picture, then i'd accept that as AV child porn.

Anyone got any coffee? Muffins? Shotgun?
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Kris Ritter
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03-30-2006 00:27
From: aEoLuS Waves
At least you could be very happy now. You won and you lost. We all won and lost.


No. You still don't get it, do you?

We didn't lose anything. Well, I didn't lose anything. I suspect it's the same for many; since we weren't in any way affected by so called child porn because there is no child porn, nothing changed. Apart from, as I say, we were entertained at your expense.

The only thing I may have lost is braincells from reading your posts.

What did you win, btw?
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aEoLuS Waves
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03-30-2006 00:28
From: Mulch Ennui
the only way i can see SL being used in an illegal way (since you have to be 18 to use SL main grid) is to upload textures or video of real children

then you bet those of us who opposed your crusade would report it

Yeah but they got that covered within their TOS and the law in their country.
And I think that they will do something about it at once.
aEoLuS Waves
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03-30-2006 00:32
From: Kris Ritter
What did you win, btw?

I learned alot about people here. Seen some very good points. Got me thinking about different views. Learned that real friends are friends although you not always agree with what they write. But most of all that a lot of people took it very serious and that Lindenlab does respond ;-) .

Now thats Second Life!
Willow Zander
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03-30-2006 00:32
From: Kris Ritter



What did you win, btw?



ZOMG child trophy pr0n

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Mulch Ennui
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03-30-2006 00:32
From: aEoLuS Waves
Yeah but they got that covered within their TOS and the law in their country. And I think that they will do something about at once.


that is because it is illegal

two AVs controled by adults no matter what they look like is legal

you seem to be trying to be dense about this now
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vivi Odets
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03-30-2006 00:39
*yawns*

*goes to bed*
Selene Gregoire
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03-30-2006 00:41
All right. That does it! I'm sending all of you children to your rooms, without supper, without pudding, without tv and radio, without company and definately without pie!!!








:p :D LOL!!
aEoLuS Waves
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03-30-2006 00:42
From: Mulch Ennui
that is because it is illegal

two AVs controled by adults no matter what they look like is legal

you seem to be trying to be dense about this now


Well this all is a bit weird for me. Of course that is illigal.

I found it convusing that if I take a picture of something that realy looks like a kid in a sexual loading it is illigal to do that/have it/ show it. But if you take an AV ( that really looks like a kid (we all know that some exelent creators made them)) and do sexual things with it, it isnt illigal. But as I learned Lindenlab seems to agree with some standpoints here that is isnt Child Pornography so whatever I think isnt importante right now.
Siggy Romulus
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03-30-2006 00:45
What if I got 2 figures made out of modeling clay and posed them provocatively?
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Willow Zander
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03-30-2006 00:46
From: Siggy Romulus
What if I got 2 figures made out of modeling clay and posed them provocatively?


Reported and alerted to the FBI.
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Mulch Ennui
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03-30-2006 00:46
From: aEoLuS Waves
Well this all is a bit weird for me. Of course that is illigal.

I found it convusing that if I take a picture of something that realy looks like a kid in a sexual loading it is illigal to do that/have it/ show it. But if you take an AV ( that really looks like a kid (we all know that some exelent creators made them)) and do sexual things with it, it isnt illigal. But as I learned Lindenlab seems to agree with some standpoints here that is isnt Child Pornography so whatever I think isnt importante right now.


if I stage a killing that looks real, i cannot be arrested for murder
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Siggy Romulus
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03-30-2006 00:47
From: Willow Zander
Reported and alerted to the FBI.

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The Second Life forums are living proof as to why it's illegal for people to have sex with farm animals.

From: Jesse Linden
I, for one, am highly un-helped by this thread
Kris Ritter
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03-30-2006 00:49
From: Mulch Ennui
if I stage a killing that looks real, i cannot be arrested for murder


Don't bank on that too heavily, will ya? ;)
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03-30-2006 00:54
From: Willow Zander
Are we to assume that everyone that has a short AV is playing a child and is being taken advantage of by the big bad taller person? I mean yeah of course being forced on balls in sl against your will is rampant *rolls eyes*.



don't talk about what you don't know ... kinky midgets are EBIL !!! :eek: and their secret plan is to take advantage of all those tall buggers that block their sight :D
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aEoLuS Waves
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03-30-2006 00:57
From: Mulch Ennui
if I stage a killing that looks real, i cannot be arrested for murder

True..

So why did they make that rule/law the Lindens came up with about child pornography?
/139/c9/96283/1.html

This part:
(B) such visual depiction is a digital image, computer image, or computer-generated image that is, or is indistinguishable from, that of a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct; or

It seems that is comes down to that one word I think: indistinguishable

>> added <<

Anyway Lindenlab makes the TOS and they have showed their point of view. No need to try to figure out what we see as "indistinguishable" :-).
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03-30-2006 00:58
From: Willow Zander
ZOMG child trophy pr0n


:eek: She only has 1 leg
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Kris Ritter
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03-30-2006 01:00
From: Spinner Poutine
:eek: She only has 1 leg


zomgz! Body Dysmorphic Child Trophy Pr0n! sick!
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03-30-2006 01:04
From: Selene Gregoire
All right. That does it! I'm sending all of you children to your rooms, without supper, without pudding, without tv and radio, without company and definately without pie!!!


But with a dildo? *waggles eyebrows*
Willow Zander
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03-30-2006 01:08
From: Spinner Poutine
:eek: She only has 1 leg



You really don't want know where the other one is.
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Spinner Poutine
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03-30-2006 01:16
From: Willow Zander
You really don't want know where the other one is.

:eek: :D :confused: Now I'm all confused.
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Selador Cellardoor
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03-30-2006 01:29
From: aEoLuS Waves
I thought that AV child porn was Child ponography but Lindenlab thinks its not. I never ever seen it here in SL. So mabey this stampede of me is complete waist of time (as they told me). But at least it made ppl think about this. So thats a good thing.


No, it's not a good thing. You have wasted people's time and energy and threatened the company. I think the fact you are still here shows just how tolerant Linden Lab can be.
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Selene Gregoire
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03-30-2006 01:34
From: Fenrir Reitveld
But with a dildo? *waggles eyebrows*




No toys!!

And for that smart remark you don't get a whipping either!! :p
Siggy Romulus
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03-30-2006 01:35
From: Spinner Poutine
:eek: She only has 1 leg


The other one's her cock, but don't tell anyone :P
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aEoLuS Waves
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03-30-2006 01:36
From: Selador Cellardoor
No, it's not a good thing. You have wasted people's time and energy and threatened the company. I think the fact you are still here shows just how tolerant Linden Lab can be.

Yes they are very tolerant and thats a good thing.
I did not threatened the company. I asked a question and I got it.

Thank you for waisting your time with me.
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