YAY!!! Lindenlab says: AV Child Porn is considered not to be child pornography

How so?

No, I'm opposed to the statement that "LL says child porn is ok", because they never said anything of the sort. Libel and slander rub me the wrong way, particularly when it's so carelessly done.

I take issue with opinions quite freely. An opinion is not sacred.

The word "indistinguishable" is very important in this case.

Apparently so... but how?


Just out of curiosity, are cartoons of minors having sex considered child porn?

I'm really trying to leave this thread, lol.

No I'm saying use caution. Can anyone prove right now that your an adult? Only LL can. That's my point. Soooo if you and I (hehe) were to go iw right now and start having sex like horny rabbits how would I know your really an adult? Trust you? Take your word for it? That is the situation ppl are placing their selves in. Use caution is all I'm saying because the bottom line is ppl are not always who they appear to be.

I'm not saying ppl should stop having AV sex, what ever floats your boat.

If av adults are having sex with av kids then I personaly don't need to nor do I want to know about it. Why? Because that is my opinion of what I want to or don't want to see in my sl experience.

Thats all, no biggie.

Cat

No, or at least not in the eyes of the american laws. It is only child porn if you were unable to tell the difference between artificially created image and a real image of a child.

As that's laughable in SL with our AVs, no one would ever be able to become confused by the "realism" of a photo of a SL AV and that of a photo of a real child, SL will never be in danger of this law.

Since SL AVs are clearly distinguishable between real children in the eyes of the law it isn't child porn.

I don't hate much in this world or in sl world. Rather than hate, I just avoid situations that I feel would make me uncomfortable. I don't care what ppl do in the privacy of their bedrooms, it's not my business. Nor do I stand in judgement of those choices. I will however be honest and say it makes me uncomfortable and I choose to avoid it. I will however not dictate what I think others should or shouldn't do.

Cat

Well, since you need a credit card or a cell phone to get on here...


You're either an adult, or someone probably over 13/14 that can pass as being older and has very stupid, negligent parents.

I hold to the same ideal irl. If you're not involved in your kid's life enough to realize that your 15/16 year old daughter stayed out all night at a bar with a fake ID and going home with random guys, that's your fault, not the guys who are commiting statutory rape with someone who's supose to be 21.

ah. gotcha.

I think you are doing wrong to some of the best skin makers arround in Second life. There are some real looking child avatars arround. Its just an opinion.

I say it looks real enough and others say its way off. Now who will judge?

Additionally, a photorealistic av within SL still would not qualify, as it happened in SL.

However, if you had two photorealistic avs and took a screenshot of it, that screenshot may qualify, especially if you doctor up the screenie so the environment around it looks real.

Bollocks. If you are confusing any AV with that of a rl image you must be using a braille monitor to post here, which might actually explain a lot. Way to grasp at straws.

soo i saw a really good Tiger lady av last night it was very realistic..soo duhhhh that person must really be a Tiger rl duhhhhhyup uh huh uh huh!

Doesn't matter how real it is, it's not indistinguishable. The word has a rather specific meaning.

I dont want to look like a netured sexless thing! My avatar is an expression of me.

Find me a photorealistic skin maker and I'll send them my photo. Been looking for one.

I woke up for this?

Yeah and I think thats why Lindenlab can say that two aldults having Av Child porn isnt Child Pornography. I wonder what kinda peeps would have made that up in the law. But better save then sorry I guess.

Let's bring back alcohol prohibition.

I mean, after all, some kids manage to get realistic, indistinguishable-from-the-real-thing IDs.

Then they go get booze somewhere, and possibly end up with an addiction that can be deadly or spark a lifetime of issues.

Better yet, let's make an RL teen grid.

Probably people concerned with how that sort of law, without such a clause, could be abused. Especially in concern with art.

I am only not dead because I have not stopped breathing.

Oh well, I guess my lawsuit against "Ally McBeal" (yes, I watched a couple of those things) for including the "dancing baby" in an episode is losing traction. There go my millions.

The first comparison, Child Porn vs. SL Ageplay, was a balance of simile.

Yours is cause:effect.

SO not only is this line not witty, it doesn't make sense in the argument.

What I see hapening is that one of the nice residents is going to sue Linden Labs for damages because of this "child porn". Some group would provide money to them in the "public intrest" and lawyers do it pro bono. It will not stop there! Next will be groups, and finally the whole concept of mature.


Linden Labs will either have to conform or find money to fight it. Second Life may just become PG land. Nothing that can possibliy offend anyone would be permitted. I think that so many residents would leave Second Life that it would be discontinued. It will be history as yet another freedom that was lost in the Land of the Fee. Perhaps a program like Second Life can only be hosted in a truly free nation.