The Chosen Ones Have Been Announced

I don't fucking care. "Getting in touch with our clientele" stunts like this one generally don't work very well, and are more about publicizing the idea that "we care", rather than framing any meaningful changes in policy - thousands and thousands of studies have shown, etc., etc. When LL puts together a systematic effort to (1) parse the resident base and find those accounts who can help, and (2) create a good tool to assess, model, and react to resident input - then I will care.

Until then, the drama between celeb-wannabes and LL cheerleaders in this thread puts me to zzzzzzzzz.

Kinda like Benny Hill.... without the tits.

+1 on font sizing

-3 on font color choosing

Supposedly a gay stereotype thing, too. Sadly I know all of those and then some as well

Thanks for sharing.

There were zombies in Narnia?

That concept just made me a little sad.

Yah that was just off the top of my head without looking in my paint box or pantone print color samples. Of course, there are always the made up colors like Nuclear Red (a hairdye color I once used) and trusty old faves like Fire engine Red.

Oh cynicism, again. I get it.

I love how folks can crawl inside the minds of others, and then speak for them. That's a cool trick, care to share your secrets Zoltar?

To the cynics - if you don't like the way a company is running a BUSINESS, don't support them. What's the fucking point otherwise?

You have no entitlement beyond being able to log in and use the tools.

Exactly

*comes back from lunch*

Go on, Lewis... just three little words... it's ok... we will actually respect you more if you say them... We'll maybe not, but it's worth a try. I'll type them out for you so you can copy and paste:

"I was wrong."

Ding ding ding. You may be on to something here and by may I mean are on to something here. Surreal brought up the sense of entitlement in a thread recently called entitlement and I think that is a key issue here. Everyone thinks they are entitled to something whether it is free money, getting special perks and so on and so forth. You sum it up so succinctly.

Aye, that'd work too i guess. There's a possibility of something like this winding up silly if someone actually does find out about it afterwards and publicizes it (because then it can look like company realizing shortcomings of their product and trying to hide it) ... but doubt SL is hot enough topic to be under such additional level of scrutiny.


I'd rather them to switch it to in-world series of panels, but realistically this won't obviously happen. I don't think such change would actually 'deprive people of recognition' etc because well, if just being chosen for this kind of program isn't positive recognition of people's qualities then i don't know why a free plane ticket on top of it makes the crucial difference ^^;


I'd say if anything comes out of it that'll be a result of idea coined specifically because of this being face to face meeting, and if such idea couldn't otherwise originate in in-world meeting... then yes, that'd clearly prove me wrong.

And am sorry if my expectations for SL are as high, as to think that a group of intelligent developers and users picked for their smarts and skills can exchange ideas well without having to rely on subtle cues of one another's body language...

Just thought I'd share what I'm listening to while reading - by that masterful band Devo.

Pity you.
You're telling me you've got a problem
A nervous sort of contraction
A mindless kind of reaction
You never get no satisfaction.

Here's to you
I know you really got a problem
A nasty kind of reflection
A dangerous sword of destruction
That makes it difficult
Makes it hard to reach
Takes it all away
From what you had in mind
Yeah, yeah, yeah

A nervous kind of distraction
A nasty sort of contraction
But theres a big fat point
That you seem to be missing
And it's driving you to destruction
But that doesn't seem
To stop you in the least
Or halt this obsessions, got you
Going on back
Week after week
Day after day
Hour after hour
From where you came
For more of the same...

Yeah yeah yeah.

I suppose that's true, but I think it would have been less of an invitation to controversy. But I think the main problem is that Linden Lab is just too mysterious in general. They always have been. I mean, why are people so worried about some residents having LL's ear for a few hours "behind closed doors"? Why is there still this debate over the role of commerce in SL? Why is there an argument over whether this focus group needs to be some sort of representitive citizen committee? You think a Linden isn't watching this little Thunderdome right now? Blech. I don't have a lot of sympathy for the conspiracy crowd, but I'm having more and more trouble finding sympathy for LL when these things happen. Just tell people the way it is and let the chips fall where they may. And stop leaving it to people like Cristiano to make your arguments for you.

Okay. Fair objection.

I acknowledge that any idea that might come up in a face to face could certainly be conveyed via an online meeting... or even an email.

But for brainstorming it really helps to actually be in the same room.

Meeting face to face may accelerate and faciliate a process that would otherwise require a much larger investment of online time and effort..

If you disagree on that point, then, well, I can respect that.

Sorry to blow my top earlier.

Mmmmkay, I'll repeat the basics for you and Jopsy:

(1) I don't care.
(2) It's a stunt and probably won't result in anything especially meaningful.
(3) When LL creates a meaningful method of gathering and reacting to resident concerns, then I will care.

Implied in that last statement is the idea that I like the idea of Second Life and want it to succeed. I can think that way and still be critical. So cheer on! - you're not entitled to tell me how I should think, little pom-pom person.

Implied in my post is the idea that you and others like you excell at drama. Implied in my post is a sentiment for both sides: Give it a rest - even Shakespeare sounds like the angry buzzing of bees if you listen to it too much.

And here's something for pandastrong - check those colors again. Dark red for one particular word, purple for another.... Might there be something more to it than what satisfies your personal palette?

Red! Now you're speaking my colors!

Aye, i can see the possible benefit of chance to get similar results a bit faster (if different people meeting together like that for first time(?) manage to effectively interact and brainstorm right off the bat, that is) ... i suppose it's just bit of regret because it could be instead a very good opportunity to analyze what shortcomings SL currently has for small group communication in-world, and how it could be improved to address these shortcomings. Plus the PR effect of "SL staff and residents collaborate with help of LL technology" is imo better than "SL staff and residents meet in RL to collaborate". But then ultimately it's LL's choice what impression they want to give, of course, and if getting rapid results out of this program is _that_ crucial ^^;

edit: feck, i don't know the forum colour tags :/

Jennyfur Peregrine - Nice to know one of the people chosen has there head up there ass.

If LL really wants people that represent us why don't the put it up to a vote, if they truly want to make there business better that is the way they would to it.

Instead they are picking people, that strongly implies that they want people they can dazzle into became LL cheerleaders that will never be critical of them again. Hand picking people like this is unethical.

With the exception of miss head up her ass, I will talk to the people chosen to see what topics they are going to talk about.

At this point I do beleive it is a PR stunt.

-50 for account age.

I mean, I hate to be that guy, but this really is kind of a no-newbs-allowed discussion.

Am I off base with that?