Please Shut Up if you say SL is not a game.
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Arsenic Soyinka
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07-11-2006 19:25
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Lets be honest ... SL is not a GAME its merely your typical raunchy net chat site enhanced with visuals and other powerful images
there is nothing like playing Slingo whilst a sub chained to her Master are fornicating at the same time that a naked teenaged newbie is dropping bombs on everyone ...
all this ... accompanied to the musical strains provided by Rockin X Radio, playing the song by Khia that surely rings out as the anthem for all women ... "lick my pussy and my crack"
some people say they keep their RL separate from their SL ... can you type ROTFLMAO
ironically SL doesnt separate their RL from their SL SL's new version of TOS clearly states SL is not responsible for peoples conduct.
But SL does foster peoples conduct since in their RL (REALITY) they do profit from it ... ... get it?
and who said SL isnt a porn site? ... (something no one seems to want to discuss)
sure there are PG areas on SL ... simply turn right into the next chat zone just past the anal sex pose balls
and still ... they say SL is a GAME well that just about excuses & justifies anything and any conduct ... a journey into moronic Xcite cyber sex scripts to obscene commercialism psychopaths, predators, fakes & ripoffs are welcome
(and SL is not responsible for the conduct of others)
did i forget to mention the redundancy on nearly every sim on SL ... thats why im never lost, i think!
btw all of the opinions expressed herein ... is only a *GAME* ... ~ wink ~
SO ... Congrats to SL celebrating it's 3rd Birthday!!! but you hardly seem to find anyone who's been here 3 years ... i wonder why
yup ... things can get pretty freaky sometimes ... like fraternising with a woman who turns out to be a man
thats probably why some people need to call it a GAME ...
that may also be why some people wont answer survey questions that have to do with their RL and SL gender.
fantasy is one thing ... but deception is something else
and i know not everyone will agree with me on that!
members can get freaky even if they are who they say they are
(and SL is not responsible for the conduct of others)
not being so sure about some women on SL i know i was born with a real vagina in Real Life ... and how do i know this?
coz i looked up it in the dictionary o.0
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Jon Hunt
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07-11-2006 19:45
SL is definately a game. Coming from a background of video games, There is definately a "goal" in this game, such as there in life and other MMORPG's.
IF there are no goals in the game, then, why do people want to make $L?
Why do people want large pieces of land? or have campers to make their area seem more populated?
Life in itself is full of goals also, the goal to succeed, the goal to be a good person.
You cannot say that SL has no goals or objectives. Each person has their own objective in the the game.
How SL is different from real life, is inherently how it becomes a game. When one can "turn off" SL, making it more a diversion, or form of entertainment, rather than a continuous task that you must uphold, it becomes a game.
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Logan Bauer
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07-11-2006 20:24
My least favorite part of the RL game is the "rush hour traffic" level.
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Gabe Lippmann
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07-11-2006 20:30
From: Arsenic Soyinka coz i looked up it in the dictionary o.0 Point!
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SuezanneC Baskerville
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07-11-2006 20:33
From: Selador Cellardoor I think Second Life is a cheese sandwich. Shut your mouth, you cheese monger. Come to think of it I like cheese sandwiches, Second Life might be better it it really was a cheese sandwich.
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Jonas Pierterson
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07-11-2006 20:46
From: Hugsy Penguin Second Life needs a definition so that we can more easily explain what it is to those who ask about it. If I were to tell someone that I'm usually on Second Life most evenings and they ask "What's that?", then I need to have an answer. If I reply "Oh it's this online game that I play." and leave it at that, then they'll be left with a way off-base idea of what Second Life is. That might actually be OK for some people who just don't understand computers all that well and you don't want to get into it. But, it's misleading for those who would understand. Its definition will vary from person to person. I've introduced it to people at work as a game, and seeing it, they agree. Calling it 'just' a game or 'just' a platform is wrong though, because SL is many things to many people. Quit trying to define it for others, and call it what you feel it is. It can be a game, a toy, a platform, a world, an OS in the making, or it could be the next step for the net. The point is you can't define what SL is for me. Only I can do that.
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Johnny Mann
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07-11-2006 22:49
I hope Lindens next game is polygamy goal oriented:
"SecondWife"
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mcgeeb Gupte
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07-11-2006 23:47
Second Life = "insert preference"
I used it for Chat like Yahoo, AOL, etc.
Hobbie because I make things
Can be artistic
Music, turn off monitor and blast speakers
Part-time job
Games (mostly gambling)
Definition of Game:
Main Entry: 1game Pronunciation: 'gAm Function: noun Etymology: Middle English, from Old English gamen; akin to Old High German gaman amusement 1 a (1) : activity engaged in for diversion or amusement : PLAY (2) : the equipment for a game b : often derisive or mocking jesting : FUN, SPORT <make game of a nervous player> 2 a : a procedure or strategy for gaining an end : TACTIC b : an illegal or shady scheme or maneuver : RACKET 3 a (1) : a physical or mental competition conducted according to rules with the participants in direct opposition to each other (2) : a division of a larger contest (3) : the number of points necessary to win (4) : points scored in certain card games (as in all fours) by a player whose cards count up the highest (5) : the manner of playing in a contest (6) : the set of rules governing a game (7) : a particular aspect or phase of play in a game or sport <a football team's kicking game> b plural : organized athletics c (1) : a field of gainful activity : LINE <the newspaper game> (2) : any activity undertaken or regarded as a contest involving rivalry, strategy, or struggle <the dating game> <the game of politics>; also : the course or period of such an activity <got into aviation early in the game> (3) : area of expertise : SPECIALTY 3 <comedy is not my game> 4 a (1) : animals under pursuit or taken in hunting; especially : wild animals hunted for sport or food (2) : the flesh of game animals b archaic : PLUCK c : a target or object especially of ridicule or attack -- often used in the phrase fair game synonym see FUN - game·like /-lIk/ adjective 5a - Second Life (Just kidding)
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Surina Skallagrimson
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07-12-2006 01:25
All these dictionary definitions are very interesting, however they all describe what goes on inside SL, not SL itself.
Yes, you can choose to play games inside SL and I thonk most people would agree that the main reason most people come to SL is for entertainment, but that does not make SL itself a game.
SL consists of three things, 1) The software, written as an open ended world creation/interection program. 2) The "place", created by us using the software 3) The activitives that happen within the world we created.
1) Linden Lab have stated that the software is not designed as a game, unlike WoW, Everquest, et al. 2) Footbal (English or American) is a game, a football field is just a flat piece of grass that you can do anything on. 3) A lot of games are played inside SL, but a lot of "serious" work is done as well...
The difficulty that some posters have (including me) with those that say "this game" while ranting about problems or whatever is usually because the premis of SL being a game is the root cause of the problem...
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Siobhan Taylor
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07-12-2006 01:33
Sorry, but I haven't seen any definition, by anyone in these forums yet that describes SL as anything but a game. You can call it what you like, but the description is that of a game.
Sure you can make a business out of it ... but it's still a game, professional athletes do that all the time in RL.
It's a GAME. It's always been a game. It may develop into something different in the future, but for now, it's a GAME.
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mcgeeb Gupte
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07-12-2006 01:58
For those that want to call it a game ok, but why is it a game then?? Is it a mental or physical competition to score the most points? Do we "play" Second Life?? I know when I sign on to chat, I'm not "playing". I am chatting. There must be a much more senseable definition of what Second Life is that everyone can agree on. Also just because it runs in 3D shouldn't make it a game either.
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Jonas Pierterson
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07-12-2006 02:36
From: mcgeeb Gupte For those that want to call it a game ok, but why is it a game then?? Is it a mental or physical competition to score the most points? Do we "play" Second Life?? I know when I sign on to chat, I'm not "playing". I am chatting. There must be a much more senseable definition of what Second Life is that everyone can agree on. Also just because it runs in 3D shouldn't make it a game either. Since when does a game need a score? Does Vampire: the Masquerade have a score? No. Is it still a game? Yes.
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Selador Cellardoor
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07-12-2006 02:49
From: SuezanneC Baskerville Shut your mouth, you cheese monger. Come to think of it I like cheese sandwiches, Second Life might be better it it really was a cheese sandwich. With a dash of pickle. Perhaps in the next update?
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Jon Hunt
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07-12-2006 02:49
I am "playing" second life.
List the things you do in Second life and I will say you can probably do it in World of warcraft, or EQ2, or FFXI, except that Second Life has different points much more in detail, much more complicated.
- FFXI has player housing
- WoW, EQ2, FFXI all have some forms of armour crafting (clothing)
- WoW has PvP aspects and griefers
- you can "technically" sell in game WoW gold, you can sell EQ2 currency, in exchange for $USD.
- you craft to make money (here its $L, other game its their currency)
- the objective is to make money (same with all three games).
- you can make gestures at other players ( same as all 3).
- you interact with, and chat with other players ( same with all 3).
the only difference between those games, and SL? those use a "leveling" system to hold their user base and make them more willing to pay 15$ / month every month. "Character progression" you might say.
However, isn't that how SL, even life is? When you first were conceived were you able to plop down and do whatever you're currently doing now? The "leveling" system was just a method to simulate learning, growth, and specialization, without the players really having any previous knowledge of said specializations.
SL provides its own sort of character progression, steering away from the leveling system, and throwing in their "scripting language" and our imagination (a much fresh approach I must say).
What else does SL provide that makes it different than other said "games"? How about The Sims Online, definately a game, is there a leveling system there?
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Selador Cellardoor
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07-12-2006 02:53
From: Jon Hunt IF there are no goals in the game, then, why do people want to make $L?
Why do people want large pieces of land? or have campers to make their area seem more populated?
Life in itself is full of goals also, the goal to succeed, the goal to be a good person.
You cannot say that SL has no goals or objectives. Each person has their own objective in the the game.
A resident can have any number of goals. But there are no goals set by Second Life*cries*
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Jonas Pierterson
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07-12-2006 02:56
From: Selador Cellardoor A resident can have any number of goals. But there are no goals set by Second Life *cries* There are no goals set by White Wolf in its lines of LARP books either. They are still games.
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Ordinal Malaprop
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07-12-2006 03:01
No, they're Intense Storytelling Experiences that allow you to explore the dark reaches of the SOUL, not some frivolous GAME, you just don't appreciate them, I bet you don't even like the Cure.
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Musuko Massiel
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07-12-2006 03:07
""1 a (1) : activity engaged in for diversion or amusement""
Sex is a game now?
Musuko.
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Grits Warilla
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07-12-2006 03:27
Sex is a game. It's fun, challenging, and there is definately a goal you're working for.
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Axel Truss
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07-12-2006 03:59
im not gonna post a reply cause SL is not a game
yeah..im bad...bad to the bone
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Jonas Pierterson
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07-12-2006 04:01
From: Ordinal Malaprop No, they're Intense Storytelling Experiences that allow you to explore the dark reaches of the SOUL, not some frivolous GAME, you just don't appreciate them, I bet you don't even like the Cure. actually, I don't
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Nolan Nash
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07-12-2006 04:47
From: Lo Jacobs Yes. It does go both ways.
The most irritating way, though, is when people like Mentors cut newbies off and tell them "IT'S NOT A GAME!!!!!!!" I have never seen this (was a mentor for quite some time), but I will take your word for it if you say it does happen. Are you sure though, that it's done like that, in caps, with several exclamation points? Really? Somehow, I doubt that.
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Johnny Mann
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07-12-2006 05:34
From: Axel Truss im not gonna post a reply cause SL is not a game
yeah..im bad...bad to the bone Uhhh?
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FlipperPA Peregrine
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07-12-2006 06:44
I...I should have KNOWN the Lindens were CRAB PEOPLE.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crab_people
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Kalel Venkman
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07-12-2006 06:57
By definition, a game has specific goals, a finite tool set provided to the player or players to accomplish those goals. It also has a beginning, a middle and an end, and there is some method for keeping score of the players' progress toward that goal.
Second life meets none of these criteria, therefore it is not a game. Quod erod demonstrandum.
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