Xstreet SL and OnRez to Join Linden Lab!

The plethora is upon us all! Bring it! Fill my email box with sales confirmations but don't cap my IM's because of it....

Can you guarantee merchants that you will never take a % of their in-world sales. If not, as you have now specifically stated that you will be reclaiming some of their sales through commission via XStreet, can you instead tell us when you intend to start taking percentages of sales made in-world please?

Exactly what I said earlier. So much TIME, EFFORT & MONEY put into On-Rez. Now we are standing with our pockets inside out saying - CRAP that was a wonderful waste of my hard earned $$$$.

Buying and selling what? Everything except vendor systems? Would it matter to you if I told you I had one in development and all that work is now for nothing? I think not.

What is next? Since this move (like all moves made by businesses) is money driven, what is to prevent you from taking over another industry that just happens to be profitable in SL? What assurance do I have that I can continue to create (I am a scripter) without having to worry that SL will decide to release their own "Integrated" version of my creation, thus destroying months of hard work?

I will say again, I thought LL's job was to provide the world, and it was up to us to create the content.

What will happen to those that have purchased featured item enhancements on OnRez if it's disappearing on Feb 11th?

I am not gambling on the stock exchange...i invested money into a business....now u have put on rez into receivership can i expect at least a percentage of my investment back???

Anyone heard of that movie the titanic? just wondering...good movie.

Well I sold my business about 4 months ago because of financial personal issues and I think I'm feeling good about it at this point. I was all set to make a comback and start from scratch, even drumming an idea of an island but I think SL has been great for a few years but now I think it's gone too far for me.


I remember when I started out years back all new people each got a free 512 lot, it was great!. Now you can't even buy linden land unless it's an island. 1000 for the purchase I can handle but 300 a month is a bit over board unless your some big company which I think is why the price went up after companies started coming in. There are so many creative people in sl, it was a shame to snuff them out by overpricing. it would of brought in more traffic I believe.

I can't find nothing anymore in search everywhere you go theres a spawn of 20 bots here and there, just feels like a fake plastic world now. Now when I fly from sim to sim i'm lucky to see one avatar out of 8.

oh well.

I have nothing against slex I think they did an awesome job!...as well as LL we'd all not even be here if it wasnt for them but sometimes things just go wrong, ideas aren't thought out and in the end it comes down to ...i'm sure you can guess.


i've seen the question asked dozens of times about withdraw time to paypal but seems to be being avoided. I think I'll go downgrade my account now and just use sl as a chatroom at least till free accounts disapear altogether. GL all see you in the next virtual world!

Yes, and the inclusion of his cat and refurbished Nintendo Game Cube are dead giveaways regarding his seriousness about it.

Onrez is garbage, since my last post a few minutes ago I had 6 sales on SLX

I have not had a single sale on Onrez in 6 weeks or more

I will donate my 13L Onrez Balance to the " Haha Better you than me" consolation fund

I'm hearing that as well. They did specify that they have no *immediate* plans to change things, but that's not as explicit an answer as I'd like. Nobody even halfway intelligent takes over a company and immediately changes fundamental operations in such a drastic manner, but I'd bet every dollar I have that they have some sort of long-term plans that they aren't speaking about yet.


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There one year i decide to close my SLX account, and there one month i decide to open a account in onrez, but now i can't go in SLX, my account SLX is alway actived but impossoble to go to SLX site i hope they do something for people who have the same problem like me).

<snippet>Now you are going to make the shopping sites the same way? And not worry about the people who can't use them?</snippet>

Cocoanut Koala

I care very much about making buying and selling virtual goods on Xstreet as useful and as frictionless as possible. Moving forward we can learn from what has been working for our residents on Xstreet and Onrez in order to make the viewer search more effective.

The point of my earlier post was: how many inworld sales can you attribute to someone looking around on OnRez and finding your product there? You don't know. Free advertising? You'd have been a fool to underestimate it.

I IM creators when I purchase and tell them where I first saw it. I am probably the only one.

I have used Xstreet SL and SLExchange as it used to be called extensively.... my only issue is the lack of an inworld link on many of the items. I like to visit the store... see the item in world before purchasing sometimes.

Well I've read loads of concerns, and I agree with basically all of them. I've never posted on any forums before so forgive me if I am not tactful.

I'm what you call an.. insignificant merchant, I don't do much business and I really don't care to. What I like about OnRez and XStreet was their independence from LL. When I used the exchange on XStreet I was confidant I could get... a better bang for my buck then I could buying lindens in world. Every time I used to buy lindens through I would watch as my bank account was charged extra fees, and I could never actually see what rate I was getting (maybe I wasn't savvy enough to find out) Then I'd watch as a .11 and then a .14 or so cent fee was added on for the exchange. I accepted this cause there was no other way, I wasn't aware of XStreet.

I started using XStreet for Every purchase of lindens I made when I found out I could even add two or three lindens and still be charged the same amount, with only 1 fee! Over a hundred plus transactions that added 2 to 3 hundred lindens that I got for the same price. That coming from someone who really has no clue how the exchange system works... I felt better then I ever did buying from internally in SL. I fear this Linden takeover... cause even though they say they won't change anything "YET" ... I can't see what they are doing to the system internally until suddenly things start slowly changing(which they might have already done and can't officially talk about). I fear subtle changes over the large ones. A fee here ... a tax there... making the exchange rates more... flat line and eventually there will be no difference at all buying on XStreet verses in world. Nickel and Diming us at every turn seems to be Linden Lab's specialty (proof positive that they are shutting down OnRez --haha take that free services!)

But in all honesty I hate shopping in world. I find it a grueling chore that taxes my patience with slow loads and inconsistent teleportation, and lag uggh the lag with the volume of people at a location always effected this (whether they be bots or real shoppers or campers to improve on internal traffic). My time was most efficiently spend browsing XStreet, finding things I like and then going in world to the location to see if I actually wanted to purchase, or not going in world at all cause of the nice pictures merchants took showing off their products. Whether it be OnRez or XStreet... SL did need something like it... just wish that they'd had the creativity on their own to make something worth while... and not take away the known Freebie just cause its competition. Ahh but that's business for you. I fear I will probably be watching for the new website (as I'm no good at making one myself) outside of SL, for an exchange for lindens to show up.

Its not really the Linden paid forum watchers like Grant and Colossus that have any say in the matter anyway. They know what they can't say about the takeovers. All they are here to do is provide some presence and that seems to make the masses happy that Linden Labs *might* be *almost* paying attention to the users of Secondlife.

Many Xstreet merchants include A SLURL in the item description so that shoppers can see the item in world. This is a great way for the Web and the Second Life world to work together and benefit the shopper.

Much appreciated...i am one of the merchants who spent a lot of time and money creating nice pics for you to see....and the in world prob is very valid...after two years the lag problem when shopping hasnt improved...Linden races forward in one direction blinkered to the ongoing issues that make day to day SL life a *chore*.

Thats all very nice Grant, but will Linden Lab become ACTIVE in cleaning up all the merchants who are simply reselling ripped (stolen) SL content that is blatantly, widely available right now on XstreetSL??? Having the ability to file DMCA is one thing, but clearly a more aggressive approach is needed, since DMCA policy alone has done very little to curb the sale of stolen content on XstreetSL. The Linden Lab DMCA policy is far too passive to clean up XstreetSL in its current state. Comment, please.

Thanks for deleting my post. You guys are the winner bunch!

See you in the pages of history.

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Originally Posted by Grant Linden
Linden Lab support competition and new marketplaces and Linden Dollar exchanges are emerging up all the time. Our interest is to improve the reach of the Xstreet services by integrating them directly into the Second Life experience.

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Any chance of answering the question about the speed of cashing out?



I would like to urge any Linden to address this issue with an answer. It's of critical importance to all users. Will Xstreet's L$ to $ become as slow to transfer to pay pal as Lindex is?

Please don't avoid this question.

Sorry, excuse me Grant, but this seems to have been overlooked, and I think by looking over some other forum posts, it is an issue that affects a number of people, so I shall repost.

What sort of compensation package will you be offering merchants who have paid to customise their OnRez vendor systems, and now, presumably have to replace them? I can see nothing in the FAQ about them being compatible with a new system.

Isetine - Colossus and I are two members of the Linden Lab commerce team and we are joining T Linden here on the forums so we can listen and learn from the Residents.

I agree that many residents enjoy shopping on the web and that is why this effort makes sense for Xstreet, Linden Lab and our residents.

Missed your post...but im not suprised...they seem to answer the positive questions while pretending the merchants who are up in arms havnt even posted.

One can only hope. It's a system which is gamed frequently with very little in the way of accountability.

Easy to say when you put yourselves in the position of having an amazing advantage over all the other competition, isn't it When you can change or extend your systems to get you in prime position and don't offer the same facilities to 3rd party developers you are basically using your position to the detriment of the developers you pretend that SL is all about. Of course you'd support competition on that level. Hollow words.



Not unexpected. I presume LL have no problem at all trampling over more content creators in SL who've no doubt outgrown their usefulness in the eyes of LL. We helped build the success of the system and now it's open season for picking them off.

Congratulations, you've well and truly moved from the provider of the architecture to the destroyer of those who leveraged it to make it what it is today.

It feels very strange to realise that we'll soon have to compete with the very company they we pay a lot of money to to use the system. A company that can always offer something more as they hold all the keys to the kingdom. Why pay for the priviledge of competing with the people you're paying when the cards are stacked against you from the off?

It's absolute nonsense. What I found and loved 5 years ago is well and truly dead and buried.