Upcoming Changes for Adult Content: Motivations and Goals

Yes this IS the same choice we all have.

Have Linden Lab extort more money and personal information from us or leave.

Has anybody said "DATA MINING" yet ???

let alone extortion (again).

Using this tool the way they want whether anyone likes it or not is exactly what the sex industry and their customers are imposing on the rest of the residents. If it is fair for you to do that, it's fair for me to do that too.

I mourn the loss of the early days of SL when LL's mantra was laissez faire: let people do what they freely choose to do. How did it come to this? Consenting adults engaged in harmless role play and protected from coersion by a liberating technology base now face an inevitable future of a Taliban metasphere designed to protect the prudish sensibilities of people who don't believe in the basic rights of people to decide how to behave for themselves.

What makes this a farce is that LL's history clearly shows that they will not hire hundreds of thought police to enforce these new standards. This means that reputable adult establishments will kowtow to the standards while unscrupulous ones will appear daily to peddle adult content in PG areas. The people who are punished will be those that are turned into the SS by petulent neighbors with money to make and axes to grind.

This sort of censorship is bad enough in the real world. It is pointless on the Web and in SL. At least the Web is still free. I imagine this is moot, but I just have to say it:

Leave us alone!

Leave us alone

Harrassment from Gors and whores will be fine. I can use that against them.

[well, I guess we just did, in fact. The Lindens are reading this.]

This is similar to a point I've been trying to make. Tech isn't going to help LL solve the problem as they have stated it it - only willpower will. They have to actually want to fix the problem enough that they invest in actual humans to fix it.

Until I can register an female alt and go to the private help island and not get hit on constantly or take that same female newbie and go to a 'welcome' area and not get griefed, nothing will change. Nothing except that they're going to alienate a sizable portion of their existing residents with their latest plan.

They have consistantly shown that they don't have the will to make SL better in this way.

Troll.

Don't feed.

Nany - have you not said your peace and stated your point of view?

You are turning this into a flame war in which there is clearly no winner.

Linden Labs loves this type of posting because they use that to justifying not answering people (like they would any ways). If they do answer it is with more lies which can be tracked back too or future referenced.

It is pointless to really even discuss this as the decision has already been made and as earlier mentioned the code has already been deployed.

This is merely a forum to make us believe we had a voice.

Linden Lab - -your track record is clear

I wonder if the reason for the inconsistency of the blog post (e.g. there's so much of this adult material on the mainland that it is a growing concern, but so little that moving it should be easy) is because there is a disagreement within LL.

I can quite see some senior managers within LL wanting to ban all non-PG from SL: it would make SL easier to sell to big business (although the fact that after all this time, the killer business app is still online meetings suggests to me that perhaps they won't); it would remove all the legal and liability issues; it would be a much easier policy for the G-team to enforce (if it looks adult, delete it...).

On the other hand, I can also see some other senior managers not wanting to do this - either because they believe it would alienate their existing user base too much and too soon (i.e. before they would build up the squeaky clean business user base) or on principle still believing in the original principles that SL was built on.

The policy in the blog could well be a compromise between these two conflcting views within LL, and like most compromises doesn't really satisfy either side...

Matthew

I too believe it or not am a great big fan of the sex industry, but I accept it for what it is, and move on. Yes, my clubs were very adult, extreme at points, but we were adults and had a lot of fun. The truth is I got kinda bored of it; regardless, it was a lot of fun.
And if I want to pop into may fave mainland role play SIM for old times sake, it is not up to you to say whether or not I can attend such event's. And for heaven's sake get off that marshmello. Interpol has recently made huge arrests in the Child Porn area, so throwing this wild card into the mix is just for shock appeal.
Maybe you should be convincing yourself to move elsewhere, or is this what we are seeing here?

I was advised by a Linden to make sure I put my opinions forth in these forum pages, I do suspect opinion is divided.

a good friend of mine just told me,

"tell her that i get bad rap for being applachion - people say i hillbilly"


So next we should ban these people

Renee, this is simply turn around. This is exactly the position being taken by the sex industry and their customers here. They intend to use this tool if they can, whether anyone likes it or not, whether it means running over anyone or running anyone out of here. You may not have noticed how many times anyone who objects has been told to leave SL.

Sorry, I didn't know that "The little House on the Prairie"-Family, the "Waltons", "Flipper" and friends, the "Lassie"-Family, Daisy Duck und the Pope of Rome want to visit us along the next weeks.

It doesn't show up under "Events".

If so, then let's hurry to clean up the mess, wearing our best sunday-clothes, grabbing some pocket-bibles, hiding anything under the sofa, cutting fingernails and washing neck and welcome them in our worldwide well known famous extra-polite very guest-friendly style.

If they ask where they are, let's answer: welcome to the Piety Street. (And maybe let us rename xstreet into Piety Street too, for some reasons)

And now: please excuse me Ladies and Gentlemen, I urgently need to run and buy some formals and seeing a pull-out-service for my vampire-teeth.

By Whom?

No, Stephan, I am not leaving SL. I'm just getting started. I have a tremendous amount of work to do here. The new adult content policy will be very helpful.

um, you for instance? LOL

There is no policy you Moron, that is why we are here.

This is absurd LL, I know your priority is to provide an enjoyable and safe experience for everyone but at the same time your alienating people by making Adult lands and users excluded from the mainland.

What I find the most disturbing however, is how you keep adding rules and regulations to a virtual environment that is not real. I personally use SL not only for exploring my sexual identity but also to wander around and be amazed at what people create, I feel this change is just like a band aid on the whole thing, ya know? It won't solve anything if you think there is a problem.

The reality of this whole thing is, Adult content has and will exist after this change if you go through it, even if you try to hide it like its something wrong.

All I have to say is, you need to draw a line here and ask yourselves if Second Life is a virtual environment or a real one.

the blog post most everybody missed that for SL6B;

Any avatar over the height of 6'4" will not be allowed to view the attractions as this causes an over burden on the simulator servers. We thank you for your patience.

Edit to add:

Guess I have to stop hunting wabbits now.........

Agree. I think Nany is a blog griefer who is just having fun.

yeah, discussing the policy.

Renee, this is a very important issue for the nonprofit project I am directing. I want to make sure our prospective on this is made as clear as possible to Linden Labs. I don't know whether or not that has been accomplished yet, so I will keep watching for a while. I haven't flamed anyone. I haven't even called anyone an idiot, and I have been sorely tempted to.