RC Questions

makes u feel so good when u cant get a anser from LL on the cogier line or in this form post. how will i know if i need to do changes to my sim to comply with new rules if they wount let mes know what i need to know.

1. All such definitions, and the restrictions that they represent only apply to people *under* the age of 18 (in the US).
2. All people who have accounts on SL have *avowed* that they are over the age of 18.
3. Such avowal (in various forms) is all that is required for *any* form of "adult content" accessible by internet connection (or even telephone) that is not in and of itself *illegal*, at least as far as California law (the only law that matters in this case) is concerned.
4 Ergo, the difference between "mature" and "adult" in this context in non-existent, except for the purposes of splitting hairs and bending logic to suit one's prejudices.

This is *not* a necessary move by LL. It is *not* to protect children, nor is it somehow "only right" to do this. It is neither moral nor "good" to be intolerant of *someone else's* lawful and harmless activities.

This is primarily an attempt by LL to *shut up a segment of their user-base* and get them to stop squawking about the titties next door.(sorry, I meant "t*tties" )
It is *secondarily* an attempt by LL to insulate themselves from any complaints from RL authorities, and also an attempt to show their lamentably poorly chosen target market how "businesslike" and suitable for corporate use they are.

If you don't like it, then don't do it, but leave everyone else the hell alone unless they are breaking the rules. *Changing* the rules specifically for the purposes of *causing* an individual or group to break them is not something that you would tolerate if it were done to you- Why do you tolerate it happening to others? Is whatever LL does just dandy as long as it ruin's someone *else's* good time and business?

have got to sit down and strip out all the IM's and spam,
^L^

Since the law of contract in the State of California is but one of the many things about which I know nothing whatsoever, I wasn't trying to make a legal point.

Since SL isn't accessed via cable tv, let's stick to the medium under discussion. What restrictions, other than my clicking a box to assure the proprietors of an adult website or dvd download service that I am over 18 (and being prepared to pay any entrance fee if necessary, do you say apply to my accessing X rated material on the internet?

The fact that an industry working with a completely different market base, business model and set of economics does something or doesn't do it is all very interesting but not particularly germane to a discussion of what is, for most of us, no more than an enjoyable and addictive hobby from which we perhaps hope to cover our costs and make a bit of pocket money if we're lucky.

Office hour ran a little longer - got the full transcript (all 36 pages of word doc) but have got to sit down and strip out all the IM's and spam, it's after 1am now and I need to get my beauty sleep - transcript will be posted in the wiki in the morning

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May I recommend this excellent tool, which I find invaluable when I'm tidying up transcripts? http://www.treekyomoon.com/wikifier.htm

<SNIPPED FOR BREVITY>
Yes the internet is not as regulated.. yet.. but that does not mean it cannot be and does not mean that it will not be.
<SNIPPED FOR BREVITY>

let me know when you have posted it on the SLapt.me wiki and I can link it and lock the transcript

PS: Scratch that as I see Elvis has beat me to it lol

May I recommend this excellent tool, which I find invaluable when I'm tidying up transcripts? http://www.treekyomoon.com/wikifier.htm

I've got the Transcript ready for posting but I'm having trouble understanding how and where to place it on the wiki ; - one those mornings *sigh*

It's a bit too long for placing here unless I edit it to show only Blondins responses

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You can email it or goto

http://www.slapt.me/wiki/index.php/Office_Hours_Transcript_-_Blondin_Linden:_05-20-2009

then hit the edit tab and paste your one over the existing page then hit save page at the bottom

PS: If it has been edited in word then you will need to paste it into a notepad first or run it through the wikify link before posting as word pasts all the formating codes IIRC

Thx LS - Sorted Now - It's all there

http://www.slapt.me/wiki/index.php/Office_Hours_Transcript_-_Blondin_Linden:_05-20-2009

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Cool I noticed thanks Have you finished with it and I will lock it as its a transcript?

Checked it over and It's finished - Long read

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Obviously not, since I am openly critical of aspects of this move, and agree that LL likely have legal obligations to current landholders that they may have to find a way to satisfy. Even if these changes were mandated by new legislation, that would not automaticly discharge LL's legal obligations to its landowners.

What you are seeing is a dichotomony - such major changes will cause great upheaval, and yet, LL does nothing to inform people about it.

Courts will often look at the underlying reality of a transaction to reach a just outcome. The reality is we pay around $4,000US up front per server to linden labs to "buy land". That's close to the full purchase cost of a server.

At the time of purchase of Mature land, (a) any player could visit, and (b) you could use it for any legal purpose. With the new rules it will be Adult= (a) not true, and Mature = (b) not true. Attempting to change the terms of sale after the fact is not allowed, so the *minimum* they should do is offer to buy back the land.

That's more than an 8-core XServe, and I REALLY doubt they paid Apple prices for their servers.

Unfortunately the depreciated cost of the servers is pretty much zip by now.

rather than do the kangaroo court thing, why doesn't someone in the US give those nice government people who deal with internet fraud a ring and ask them?

here's the post with the details

/352/1d/318980/20.html#post2417280/352/1d/318980/20.html#post2417280

i would think one of these two agencies could offer some kind of general feedback

Federal Trade Commission USA
http://www.ftc.gov/index.shtml

eConsumer.gov, international database to file a complaint, maintained by FTC. Also contains links to participating countries consumer protection authorities.
http://www.econsumer.gov/

i was trapped outside so not much of a selection, but here they are.

The internet cannot be regulated or censored thank god as I do not want some government telling me what I can or cannot view.