Upcoming Changes for Adult Content: Answers to Questions

What about stores where someone's stuck his residence in a skybox a couple of kilometers above the store? Does the store being advertised restrict what unrelated content he can have in his skybox?

Will stores that remain behind be able to advertise that they sell sex beds and merchandise?

he just wouldn't believe me...

Now, when do I get some answers to my questions?

and where's Brenda with that booze? It's getting seriously boring here.

I wish the text transcripts of the last two brown bags would be published i think they would answer alot of these questions

Since this Adult flagging will most certainly be done in one form or another I would like to request an additional feature which should require almost no additional work.

Add a check box to show or not show PG content to search.
It should be real easy to add at the same time the Show mature on is added.

If the PG crowd need not wade through Adult stuff while searching PG stuff.
Why should the Adult crowd need to wade through PG stuff when searching adult content.

(And do not try to tell me you wont get PG results while search Adult stuff, other wise the reverse would be true to and the would be no need at all for the search filter)

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Hey maybe if LL adds both check boxes now and tracks general usage of either and or both they might actually get some more realist number on how many want just one or the other, PG only or Adult only or are simply open to both and don't need any filtering.

Based on a post in one of the giant threads, Blondin stated already that there will be an optoin on your profile or in your settings where you can say that you do not want to access "Adult Rated" content. This will allow those that are PIOF or PIU to still block Adult content from their "SL Experience".

Blondin: will that feature be something visible when you look at someone else's profile? I can see where many people might not want what they selected on that to be visible for the whole world to see.

I want a checkmark that blocks immature content, personally,

Well, there goes most of SL and RL.

What's the over/under on a "press ALT-F4" reply? Five minutes?

When I press Alt-F4 nothing happens. When I press Alt-F Alt-4 I get "Ï¢".

PS: I quit watching TV after I turned the "brightness" control all the way up and it was still just as stupid.

I have luck with my buddy. Yesterday I sended my avatar to an oculist. He made an eyesight test. Ava is complete blind. Doc showed him - well - smutty things... No reaction! Nothing. Poor ava. I bought him then one of these dark shades. So no need to change any settings for him. Colleaque Avatar can see nothing. Also he is deaf. He cannot hear any moaning and no bad language. So for me is not relevant where he walks. Any location will be ok. Even adult and ultra-adult, mega-adult and hyper-adult, if not super-adult until up to grotesque adult and dramatically morbide adult. All. He cannot be shocked, because I zoomed into the ava's head, and what can I tell you?: no brain...no cognitive abilities, no chance to harm him. Additional to this whole mess he is, he talks not. Only a stupid grin from time to time with no message, nor meaning.

I think he is verified for anything. It can only happen, that he is wearing a red sock on the left foot and a green sock on the right foot and has buttoned his shirt wrong. Often he is running into walls or he is falling from rooftops, or a cliff, or being hitted by a car, but what can I do... it's destiny.

Sorry i don't know how to quote previous posts, as well as this one. Found an answer in post 130 of this thread by Blondin. Thought I had read it before.



So no cannot advertise adult content. Ok then raises another point. How does not making these items existance, from the search, make SL experience more predictable? If anything I think this will make it more woops what did i come into.

If and when the brownbags are posted would love to read them, I'll keep an eye out for them. BTW I am PIOF, PIU, and age verified, have been since my second week on SL.
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hoo wow got it to work. just played around a bit.

/me wonders why LL is emphasizing trying to punish ppl for not choosing what they want rather than finding a way to make it more attractive to the ppl they want to move .... it would solve a lot of problems with edge cases!

I'm sorry, but was there a point there? I have read this several times and absolutely can not understand what you are getting at. I assume since you quoted my post that it was in some way an answer to what I wrote. Could you please rephrase your point in plain english?

I want to tell you about something that happened to me this weekend. I think it clearly shows why Linden Lab’s proposed Adult Content policy will not work.

I teach classes at a venue that is PG. Recently, they moved from one mainland parcel to another. On Sunday, I teleported over to see the new build. The new parcel had required a significant rearrangement of the facilities…the same buildings were there, more or less, but the layout was entirely different. The reconstruction had taken several days of effort by the owner and staff, and the school had to be shut down for over a week while the move took place. Multiply this times several thousand, and you’ll begin to appreciate just what LL is proposing to do to us.

But that’s not all. One of the staff tried to teleport in, and some SL glitch or other sent him into the parcel next door instead. He IM’d me. Here is a rough paraphrase of that conversation.

Staff member: Lindal, I am next door to the school. You’ve got to see this house. It is a terrible place.
Lindal Kidd: I can’t get in, there are ban lines around it. Can you TP me?
*poof*

I find myself outside a pretty, three story house with white siding. Very suburban. My friend is there. “Come inside and see this”, he says. So I do.

The inside is a prude’s worst nightmare. Every room has pictures on the walls, a mixture of Great Masters paintings, commercial erotic art, photographs, and SL screenshots. The images depict sexual encounters…from the merely normal right on up to images of bestiality and demonic rape. Every room contains at least one article of sex furniture. Beds, thrones, BDSM equipment, sex rugs. Even the bathroom fixtures are scripted.

My friend says, “Let’s look around”, so we do. All three stories. Every room, opening every door and peering around. Even with no one in residence, there was a LOT of “adult content”. Most of it was, I thought, very tastefully done, even if it was (for my taste) way, way OVERdone.

Staff member: Would you want to live in a house like this?
Lindal Kidd: No…the ceilings are too low.
Staff member: I think a demon must live here!
Lindal Kidd: Very likely.
Staff member: It is a terrible place.
Lindal Kidd: I admit, I would *not* want to live here. I like sex, but this is just too much. Let’s go.

Notice a couple of things here, please.
1. My friend did not arrive there by choice…but he DID choose to go inside the house and explore. I went there deliberately, by choice. Either or both of us had the chance to stay away…in my case, I even had to circumvent ban lines to get there.
2. This was a “private residence”. Under the LL plan, such places would remain right where they are…in this case, next door to a PG operation.
3. This was, undoubtedly, material that LL would deem “extreme”.

This sort of exploration happens thousands of times every day in SL. LL’s policy will not keep innocent people like my friend from being exposed to “extreme” content. All it will do is inconvenience a great many people in the short term, and hurt in world businesses in both the short and the long term.

As a "cop" what sort of shop are you running that you feel that you will be forced to move to the new adult land? The reason i ask as most grown up shops won't be moving as far as i recall

Good luck with taking LL to court though

It was a joke in austrian style - maybe failed...our humor is kind of weird, you know...not easy to internationalize...we are basicly not the brightest, because surrounded by the alps and no overview, to be true. Not more brain than some Edelweiss.

The point was more or less, to find the absurdness in verifying avatars...

Edit add: or the absurdness in to let the ava see things or not...adult content or adult advertisings in search, or something. U c, there is not much difference between me and my ava: both are totaly a mess.

Which is why I've been suggesting an all G-rated continent for people who are not verified, for teens, and for businesses. Create a continent where all the sex and violence are verboten, and easily kept out. Because there is no way to make the mainland of today clean and spiffy without everyone abandoning it. Wouldn't that be nice - all of mainland, bringing in zero money. You can even take it a step further by having an all XXX continent on the other side, so people can have a choice of what sort of world they want to create.

But LL has made up their minds, and will now charge madly over the cliff like a blind squealing sow. So you may as well resign yourself to the fact that when people invite their grannies to their pg sims, at least a couple of them will drop dead of heart attacks every single day. So long as everyone believes in M and clicks their shoes together, the rocks in the path won't destroy the ship...

A private residence with sexual content is not ADULT. In the case you outlined above, the business and the private home do not need to change anything.

So this is the answer to the "residence above the store" question? Having the parcel in search isn't relevant unless the search is actually about advertising the adult content?

I think this policy could have an impact on the music scene but it may not be for the worse even if some clubs disappear. Music venues that are categorized adult will seem more exclusive and interesting and the patrons will show up with more money. It will feel more like a night out to go over to the porn continent to catch a show. Better paying customers may make the shows and the venues better, not so much disco full of freebie sluts and noobs in some shopping mall.

btw, need to make sure that checking Include Mature content on one Search tab doesn't automatically include it on all Search tabs that are unchecked.

Just cuz I want to see nasty music shows doesn't mean I want to be propositioned for sex while I am shopping for plants.

I agree with this for the most part. If handled properly, the whole idea of Pornsylvania could be a great thing for SL. It doesn't HAVE to be the Ghetto we are envisioning. But the logistics are a very complicated issue. LL should do everything necessary to make the move as painless as possible for those concerned, to have crystal clear definitions of who has to move and why, and has to come up with a functional method of age verifying for everyone who wishes to visit the area, that reasonably ensures they are interacting with adults while guarding everyone's privacy in the process.

Communication, Consideration and Consistency are the keys. Unfortunately, they are the areas where LL has been woefully lacking in the past.

Thats how I understand it. And the sex content is obviously contained in a private dwelling not immediately available to the public. Obvious to fairminded people anyways,

Like a shop on the ground open to the public and a private residence next to it even with the door locked and curtains drawn. Or simply gated with a sign saying "private residence no entry please" Meaning there is nothing in here for sale or for the use of the general public.