Upcoming Changes for Adult Content: Answers to Questions

I can't find it at this time but I'm pretty much certain that it has been stated that if you point to it on the parcel then that determines that parcel's classification. That seems to me to include such things as signs, teleporters and indeed search terms.

Cite please. I've seen several OTHER people saying that's what the policy SHOULD be, but I haven't seen Blondin come out and say that just listing in search is a litmus test.

2) Some Linden's have suggested that only locations intended for "public" use with "adult" content need to move to the adult continent. Is this the case? If so what is meant by "public"?
ANSWER: Public would mean a build on the mainland that is intended to draw and host Resident traffic in such a way as to make it more of a venue than a residence designed for individual enjoyment. That said, mainland locations that have adult content on them may wish to consider a move to the adult continent, because that is where the adults will be. Residents who are interested in adult content will be looking there. Adult content can not be advertised on non-Adult land, so if you want your content found, it needs to be on adult land.

Specific case related to the above quote which I hope will receive a specific response:

I own 1/4 Mature mainland sim which is my home and my Haven. I enjoy opening my gardens to vistors (much like great houses in Europe) so my land was listed in Search and once a month I hosted a Blood Ball which was advertised in the Events. I had also planned to hold a monthly BDSM munch which is social meet 'n greet event.

As I am a Vampyre Domme my gardens have all the expected Gothic ambiance with a dance floor, loaded Intan balls, sex coffins, blood pools with sex animations and quality BDSM toys among the black roses, trees, gazebos and shadows...on the ground. I do NOT do skyboxes <shudders>.

I have 40m walls bordering the 2 external sides of the sim but not the internal sides as this is not necessary as our extended RW "family" of approximately 25 people owns the entire sim. We purposely bought a full sim so that everyone in the Evoco family could do their own "thing" which currently involves a punk grunge club, an otaku hangout, a sandbox and The Insane Asylum which is the home base for the "homeless" members to change clothes, open boxes and so on...

This WAS my home and my INDIVIDUAL ENJOYMENT came from sharing it with like minded avatars in the SL community. At no time was it intended, used or viewed as a VENUE. I like decorating it, landscaping it and knowing that when I'm not there that others are strolling in the moonlight, playing in the graveyard or wasting time with the Lament Trivia cube. I was looking forward to adding a 7Seas fishing area with a rickety docks and sharks...

All of that came to a screeching halt when this pronouncment was posted on the blog and remains on hold until I have a clear answer to my two questions...

1. Will I be allowed to reopen my gardens, list it in Search under Mature and host Mature events once or twice a month as before?

2. If the answer is No then am I still "allowed" to have my sex gen items and BDSM toys in my gardens for my own use? Not everyone enjoys sex indoors, in a skybox or in a dungeon setting. I personally find most dungeons, RL and SL, to be claustrophobic, constraining and generic in decor/amostphere.

...In theory, a main purpose of this thread was to discuss what the definition of adult should be and why, but the majority of discussion has been people digging up any arguement they can think of, no matter how far fetched, to say why this should not be done at all.

And then people wonder why threads like this get shut down.

Not everyone has been like that.. there has been some constructive discussion and some legitimate criticism, but it gets buried amidst all the naysaying.

(And no offense to any actual weasels listening )

LOL i will be interested to see if you do get get a move there, as that will prove just how open to abuse this whole situation is for the genuine adult venues that have no option but to move or not as the case my be

If you are having BDSM events at your home that you publicly advertize, that is not exactly a white pages listing, is it?

Okay, so I've pr0n'd-up some parcels on three different sims, scummified their descriptions, IDV-restricted their access, and listed them in Search. Now I'm waiting. I don't know nor particularly care to learn just now how to make money on Adult Content, so they're not even paying back their parcel listing fees--to say nothing of tier--from commission sales on a few sleazy affiliate vendors and one slightly racy product of my own. So I'm eager that they hurry up and qualify for the move to Ursula.

Any word on when the list of to-be-migrated parcels will get established?

I think that based on what Blondin said then she would be under the move as she advertises events albeit once or twice a month and has the place open to the public access with toys available, if not i need to re arrange our sim so that we are not included as well as clearly there is a way round the new rules as they stand

Well, look. If somebody came to you and said, "I have this plan to drive to the Moon in my Honda Civic. Do you have a roadmap I can borrow?" you wouldn't haul out your atlas and start comparing alternate routes. No, you'd say, "That's crazy talk. You can't get to the Moon that way."

I agree that there should be a way in Preferences to explicitly opt OUT of accidentally accessing the XXX Extreme sims. Likewise there should be a way to lock out access to combat sims and damage-enabled areas. Two separate flags. Or three, if you also want an "I only want access to PG-rated sims and parcels" option.

Can I hire you to nasty up my land? I thought about doing just that, but I quickly realized
1) I don't have low enough imagination
2) I don't have the necessary Really Racy Stuff in my inventory
3) I'm too fond of my own build to scuzz it up myself.

I need a Professional!
And I can't afford Ceera.

Well, look. If somebody came to you and said, "I have this plan to drive to the Moon in my Honda Civic. Do you have a roadmap I can borrow?" you wouldn't haul out your atlas and start comparing alternate routes. No, you'd say, "That's crazy talk. You can't get to the Moon that way."

LL's GOAL to achieve a more "predictable, enjoyable Second Life experience for everyone" is a good one, and we'd be happy to discuss it. Their PLAN is as flawed as trying to use a car for a spaceship.

It will NOT achieve the stated goal. So...either the real goal is a very different one (hence all the conspiracy theories and speculation), or we should be talking about how to build a spaceship instead of how to fold the map.

Yet based on LL's currently vague rulings, I can't advertize my terraforming business with an ad that refers to any place on my quarter-sim parcel, because there happens to be maybe 5% of that area that is a "sex themed area". Even if I set up access controls and security orbs to prevent a guest from entering ANY of the sex themed areas without explicit permission, my whole sim would have to flag as Adult if I had even a single ad that mentioned my business office!

The main point to age verification is not to keep those who voluntarily wish to screen themselves out.. those people can do so on their own without having to verify anything.

It is to reduce access to the underaged.

question 1:
when you say "without incurring fees" do you mean that the new swapped adult land will be free of charge to the land owner? (i understand that tier will not be charged twice.) specifically speaking of the case of an owner of a parcel or parcels: will the new swapped land be free of charge, or will the land owner need to purchase the parcels from 1) Linden Labs, or 2) a person who has already purchased the entire sim?

question 2:
can i have a Linden personally come to my place of business and check it out with me, and give me advice as to whether i'll *have* to move? i believe my group's parcels belong on Mature land, since any adult content is not easy to reach unless a person is *trying* to get inside. who should i contact for a feedback session on my club?

thank you, i hope for a response to these 2 vital questions.

Well, look. If somebody came to you and said, "I have this plan to drive to the Moon in my Honda Civic. Do you have a roadmap I can borrow?" you wouldn't haul out your atlas and start comparing alternate routes. No, you'd say, "That's crazy talk. You can't get to the Moon that way."

LL's GOAL to achieve a more "predictable, enjoyable Second Life experience for everyone" is a good one, and we'd be happy to discuss it. Their PLAN is as flawed as trying to use a car for a spaceship.

It will NOT achieve the stated goal. So...either the real goal is a very different one (hence all the conspiracy theories and speculation), or we should be talking about how to build a spaceship instead of how to fold the map.

Thanks for that!
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Or a warning with a 'do you want to continue' whenever porting from a non-ursula im to an ursula sim, with an option to turn those warnings off.

I do not know of any combat or damage enabled sims that do not have safe landing areas that automaticly offer you a notecard warning you what you are in for if you step out of the landing area though, so I do not think they need a separate flag.

Blondin, will LL be sending our payment info to the age/identity verification service?

The thing is, it could be ANY sort of advertized event or activity or place at your home that could be a problem, not just a kinky orgy. A business office. An art gallery display that is strictly PG... Anything.

You mean if you already have it on file? I THINK that if we already have that info, then we don't have to do anything and you are good to go.

Then they should be carding everyone. No more NPIOF accounts.

As for the rest of it, that should not be actionable and should not be considered non-residential since you have taken reasonable precautions to limit the view and otherwise keep people out of the private areas.

As for damage areas, The LL-owned combat sims, Jessie and Rausch, have no "safe zones", to my knowledge. We used to see lots of complaints from people doing a TP to either sim and getting shot/killed/TP'ed home before the sim had even fully rezzed for them. And I have lost track of how many times I have tried to TP to a store I wasn't familiar with, or was flying across an open expanse of land, and suddenly noticed the damage-enabled indicator popping up on my screen. (At which point I immediately TP home, and mark that location mentally as one never to return to.)