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Rolling Restart to deploy 1.27.0

Dante Linden
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07-14-2009 09:03
From: Lin Swashbuckler
Add Jarang as soon as possible.


The pilot list is for private regions, not mainland regions. Jarang will be updated during the full roll.
Dante Linden
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07-14-2009 09:04
From: Chupacabra Decosta
Good Morning, i own a big parcel at Utopia Portugal XIX and wish become part of the pilot rolling, iam sure the owners of the other parts of the sim agree, all my friends :)
Good luck in your work Dante , have a nice day to all.


If you can get the owner of Utopia Portugal XIX to add a comment here or IM me saying that region should be added to the list, I'll be happy to add it =)
Dante Linden
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07-14-2009 09:05
From: Account Magic
Hey could you add Solarian Republic to that list also please


Added.
Spritely Pixel
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07-14-2009 09:16
Dante, you can add Aethon and Alsvid to the pilot list, we used to have more, but i think we will stick with just these 2 being used for now.
Xugu Madison
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07-14-2009 11:14
Dante, any first impressions for if the new build works fine and we'll see rollouts tomorrow/Thurs still? Sorry to nag, got products waiting on this..
Dante Linden
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07-14-2009 16:04
From: Xugu Madison
Dante, any first impressions for if the new build works fine and we'll see rollouts tomorrow/Thurs still? Sorry to nag, got products waiting on this..


It's looking like we'll do the full roll on Wednesday and Thursday.
Chupacabra Decosta
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Join date: 28 May 2008
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07-15-2009 06:18
Are you rolling even or odd sims today Dante?
Prospero usually tell us this before start to shut them off!
Tkx good day work!

ps: is that me or sims take more than 1 hour to "born" ?
Meade Paravane
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Join date: 21 Nov 2006
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07-15-2009 07:55
/me wonders if this is the time to start bugging Dante about how the whole rolling restart process works and how it effects residents. Prospero loved talking about this! :)

Every single time a rolling restart happens, there are complaints that the process makes it difficult on residents (some of which may be corporate customers!!) that are trying to schedule in-world activities.

I've always sorta thought that if sims are restarting by host number, if you have a decent estimate of how long the whole restart will take and if you know the host number that a region is currently on (which we all know can change without warning if the sim restarts outside the RR), then you should be able to come up with an app that will give you a more detail than "probably sometime during this N-hour window."

If you're sticking with the even/odd host restart schedule, having a way to lock down if a region should restart on a even/odd host a day or so before the roll starts would also be a bonus - that way people would at least get a couple days notice of which day they will be rolled..

edit: and, ya know, I think there's lots of residents who don't really understand the whole rolling restart process and I personally don't know where what I suggest above is, on a scale of stoopid-to-great. If you wanted to do a post here (or even use the dreaded blog)that explains the process a bit more, that might be quite nice.
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07-15-2009 08:27
From: Chupacabra Decosta
Are you rolling even or odd sims today Dante?
Prospero usually tell us this before start to shut them off!
Tkx good day work!

ps: is that me or sims take more than 1 hour to "born" ?



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Darien Caldwell
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07-15-2009 08:31
From: Meade Paravane
/me wonders if this is the time to start bugging Dante about how the whole rolling restart process works and how it effects residents. Prospero loved talking about this! :)

Every single time a rolling restart happens, there are complaints that the process makes it difficult on residents (some of which may be corporate customers!!) that are trying to schedule in-world activities.

I've always sorta thought that if sims are restarting by host number, if you have a decent estimate of how long the whole restart will take and if you know the host number that a region is currently on (which we all know can change without warning if the sim restarts outside the RR), then you should be able to come up with an app that will give you a more detail than "probably sometime during this N-hour window."

If you're sticking with the even/odd host restart schedule, having a way to lock down if a region should restart on a even/odd host a day or so before the roll starts would also be a bonus - that way people would at least get a couple days notice of which day they will be rolled..

edit: and, ya know, I think there's lots of residents who don't really understand the whole rolling restart process and I personally don't know where what I suggest above is, on a scale of stoopid-to-great. If you wanted to do a post here (or even use the dreaded blog)that explains the process a bit more, that might be quite nice.


I think the rolling restart is pretty simple to understand. During the 2 day period, your region could randomly restart at any time. Once it restarts, it shouldn't again for the remainder of the period. (barring mishaps).

So people should jut *not* schedule things during the 2 day window. LL gives people plenty of warning ahead of time, when I see people complaining, I shake my head sadly because they have nobody to blame but themselves.
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Meade Paravane
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07-15-2009 08:48
From: Darien Caldwell
I think the rolling restart is pretty simple to understand.

In big terms, yes. But... Details! I want details!!
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Norton Burns
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07-15-2009 09:14
Well, the server 1.27 has been rolled out in my region for about an hour...
Can't save or upload anything at all now!
Great.
Tristin Mikazuki
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07-15-2009 09:29
About what % is complete so far?
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Marah Tripsa
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Don't know what you did, BUT
07-15-2009 09:39
I hae tried logging into both of my sims in the barbary coast estates, and keep getting dumped in your adult safe zone. When I arrive in the safezone, I have no attachments, no hair, can't move because the lag is so bad. I was on my full sim this morning which was running fine at the time, which would have be about 7am or 8am your time. Hope you get this fixed soon, am really getting perturbed at your improvements going backwards.
Ambroff Linden
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1.27.0 Now running on 1/2 of Agni
07-15-2009 10:38
We just completed the second rolling restart. 1/2 of Agni is now running 1.27.0
Meade Paravane
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07-15-2009 10:51
Welcome to the forums, Ambroff!!

Seeing lots of comments here in the forums about textures not rezzing and stuff like that.. Any news on this? Related to the new sim version??
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Becky Noriega
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always worse
07-15-2009 12:19
now teleporting is out, objects and texture not rezzing, general lag. My compliments!!!....and running a business I'm still losing money...and paying fees (+ VAT in my case).
MBob Turbo
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Problems here also
07-15-2009 12:53
After the restart of one of my full regions ..

I have had several problems. (have a group of 4 sims together)

When the region came back up, when you fly into it, you lose control and go flying off world and get logged off. Happened to me twice and another person once.

Contacted support via chat .. they finally told me that I had to open a ticket.

Before today, we have had numerous issues with with region crossing between the sims (was hoping this was going to be fixed with this release). The sims would "disappear" to where they would look like they were gone but support would tell me they were not. You could tp on the map to get there .. just couldn't see them .. or fly to them.

With this sim, with previous support chats, they have told me that this was one of the better running sims that they have seen .. so to be told to file this ticket as a performance issue after the upgrade is concerning to say the least.

PLEASE LOOK at ticket # 4051-6558994 as it is still listed as NEW from earlier today.
Photon Tokyoska
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Ticket Posted - Linking is now borked
07-15-2009 18:52
Try doing this under 1.27......

Rez 2 default prims 15m to 20m from each other. Now try and link them.... U CANT!

So I can no longer built stuff, and I am wondering how many other linked sets out there are now going to 'unlink'.........

so thrilled LL, so thrilled........
Paulo Dielli
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Join date: 19 Jan 2007
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07-15-2009 18:55
Oh that was nice. I just found out that my sim had a rolling restart but was offline for about four hours.
Viktoria Dovgal
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07-15-2009 19:12
From: Photon Tokyoska
Try doing this under 1.27......

Rez 2 default prims 15m to 20m from each other. Now try and link them.... U CANT!

So I can no longer built stuff, and I am wondering how many other linked sets out there are now going to 'unlink'.........

so thrilled LL, so thrilled........


That's how linking has worked since Havok 4 came out. Details here:

http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Linkability_Rules
Ambroff Linden
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Final 1.27.0 rolling restart delayed until Thursday, July 16th, 6:00PM PDT
07-16-2009 01:09
Hey folks. We are pushing the rolling restart for 1.27.0 to 6:00PM PDT, instead of 6:00AM PDT. Once this rolling restart has completed the entire Second Life Grid will be running 1.27.0. We'll keep you posted.
Meta Starostin
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07-16-2009 01:57
From: Dante Linden
Day Oh, I've only heard of people getting logged out when using third-party viewers (which are likely not expecting the new pop-up). Have you been disconnected when using an official viewer after you crossed the threshold? Generally speaking, the purpose of the limitation is to reduce teleport abuse.


Occasionally I have experienced the same problem as Day Oh. Yes, I am using the official viewer.
Sven Pertelson
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Events Search under Server 1.27 limited to first word
07-16-2009 05:54
In areas updated to Server 1.27 if you enter a word into Events Search it only pulls up items with the search term as the first word of the title. Prior to update on 15 July 2009 and on areas still running server 1.26 it pulls up items with the search term anywhere in the title which is expected behaviour.

see http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-4563
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Restarts and other problems
07-16-2009 07:47
I hope these restarts fix this tp problem, if anyone notices, when you log in, tp in somewhere, take a look at your statistics (Ctrl-shift-1) you will notice the kbps will go down to 0 for a few seconds so, then it will rise, however the ping sim will go up as well.

I Don't know if this a bug or not, but however it can get really annoying with the way it's acting, because it's keep locking up my computer after a while with that. So if it's a bug, i will report it, however i want to make sure. Unless this will be fixed in the rolling restart.

And Why is the restart going to be late?

Normally you guys would post it right on the blog of the status report, if change.

Anyway i hope you guys can fix up the problems, and have a great Day.

-DD
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