Feedback on Ad Farm Post - Part 2

I'm pretty sure that if your blocking screen is set to phantom (for easy fly-through access) and transparent on the perp's side (so you don't block his "view", your in the clear with TOS.

wading through half these posts apologies if answered elsewhere....
Land sale ads are banned? but what of land/property rental?....less easily found in search is a discreet house for rent sign also outlawed?
if said property is 10m high then the ad cant go on the roof?

Land sale ads are not banned, but they do come under the new rules of how they can be placed.

There's no ads to block, just a huge price tag on an uneven 16M parcel.

The weekly meeting of anti ad farm/extortion activists will take place at 2 pm SL time. If you have a wish to discuss these issues and our future strategies, please come and join us.

The location is: Atmosphere (199, 65, 2

This is my problem also limit the number of small plots these t*ss*rs can hold, then we can finally feel like something has been achieved.

50 sounds like the maximum, 35 sounds fair and 0 is unfortunately unrealistic but the ideal.

That does beg the question of all those parcels with no buildings on them but contain HippoRENT boxes advertising land for rent.

Those are ADs too, right?

Ads are allowed..the purpose of an ad is to be seen and draw traffic.
And so i ask again... are people going to be allowed to block an ad deliberately on most sides purely for their own gratification?

Please - nobody respond - it was replying to this sort of deliberate spoiler that caused the last thread to disintegrate.

I imagine so, though I've never seen them.

If you intentionally place an ad on a plot that you know is surrounded on all four sides, well, sorry about your bad luck.

What gratification would that be? Are you suggesting that people shouldn't be allowed to block out things they don't want to see from their own land? That's a rather selfish view, isn't it? What if they don't want to see the house next door? Should they not be allowed to put a row of trees up, for instance?

If you want ads to be seen, then place them where they can be seen - roadside, for instance. There is nothing implicit in the purchase of land that it has a right to be seen.

Really. Please.

This was asked before and Jack hasn't answered yet.

I can tell you if someone put a advert in a stupid place, where I felt the need to block it I will, and AR them for harassment.

If they put it in a sensible place I won't do anything because thats called being fair and reasonable.

I really don't know what impediment some people have that negates their ability to master this simple concept.

Location is everything, put it in a high traffic business area or roadside.

If asked to move it be as amenable as possible this is the best form of advertising after all.

Sorry to late

I am sure that Jack is noting all these points of view, and will arrive at conlusions/decisions accordingly.

Advertisers do have genuine points of view, and I think that SL would be better with some ads around, just as RL is better with them, as long as they are in good places for them.

Right, but there are different kinds of "wussies". I bought some land in a once-beautiful sim on Heterocera with the intent of trying to improve the awful state to which it had been reduced by adfarmers. With a little luck and some common courtesy, I was able to get rid of some junk, and shuffle some other stuff to a slightly less absurd location (if such a thing is possible for 30m ad towers) without paying any real ransoms for any of it. But I still have some ads that just won't move, and (like Shimada) some "holes" priced at ridiculous amounts. They'll stay that way forever--I guarantee I can out-wait the extortionists--but had I thought only of my local objectives, those parcels would have been bought a long time ago.

What I'm getting at is that these folks post invective against "tree huggers"--but we're their only market. If everybody cared as little as they do about the future viability of SL, they'd have no buyers at all.

It's difficult for us tree huggers, but this is one situation where, to think globally, one must absolutely refuse to act locally.

I think you need to be removed from the forums Jub Jub. You are wasting the residents of Secondlife's and Linden Lab's time.

Histrionics about lurking evil residents behind every tree going to kill you didn't work so now you are trying histrionics about views. So to back your indefensible position up make sure you have permanently removed all doors, curtains, and window blinds from your RL home. You have no right to block the view of others at all. Now how stupid is that sounding. Your best bet is to find something other than Secondlife to occupy your time. You are one against millions of people and your advertisements nor your attitude is wanted here. Try IMVU or Habbo instead.

Millions of people do not want the few ad farmers in Secondlife. Millions of customers are not wrong. Ad farmers need to either change to something else or find some way other than Secondlife to obtain entertainment.

Interesting, I'd say no as the primary purpose of the plot isn't advertising, however nor is that of land for sale.

If the for rent sign is a spinning cube in the sky then I guess that will be banned, a standard ground level hipporent box should be fine and must surely be allowed on more than one parcel a region.

Ad cutters impose on other's, with annoying visuals and viewshed blockage.

Yet in your opinion, others have no right to impose upon them with bare walls?

I suppose an ad four sides of the block would be okay then, right?

There is no money in advertising in SL, none, zero, zip. It's not a business, it's a scam.

We should get a clarification on that. It seems reasonable to have a For Sale sign on every parcel which is truly for sale.... problems do arise when the land is not really for sale.

OMG, I Never laughed so hard. Scary but I remember all the computer equipment too. Thank you, thank you, for a good laugh through such a serious topic.

For Sale signs do attract the attention of casual land buyers, for one thing. Also, my For Sale signs can be clicked on, and when they get clicked on the sign pings me (so I know someone was looking at my land) and it vends a notecard with contact info and some sales copy about the land. (The contact info is useful if someone wants to make me a counteroffer, although I rarely if ever get those. I do get the occasional offer to rent the land, but the potential renters usually seem to have no money.)

I think they need to clarify this with some sort of defintion of what exactly is a For Sale sign... you don't want For Sale signs to be intrusive and you don't want them to be a pretext for advertising other stuff. You don't want the Cytherea Eagles and ChrisChun Fassbinders of the virtual world to put little for sale signs on 200-foot-high monstrosities with irrelevant ads all over them.

My land completely surrounds 2 16sq m lots. If advertising is placed there can I build around and block it? I dont want to look at it, I would love to buy it, not for sale now and they prolly want an arm and a leg. Thanks for your thoughts

So is ok to put up ads to attract casual buyers?