H1N1 - What's the Feeling in SL Community?

I have actually, but it's so much in the ball-park of what I really do for my real work that I would get confused! I dream work, eat work, play work, perform work and love work!. Not so certain I would want to add sl to my work schedule.

I am really interested in these comments and have read all of them.

Are vaccinations occurring all over the world at the same time?

Good question. Logically that should be the case, since the procedure for making vaccine would take about the same amount of time everywhere.

I'm also curious as to whether the resistance to the vaccine is mainly an American thing. There's a long-standing resistance to vaccines in general here, which some attribute to the very success of vaccines---people reason that 'oh, no one gets polio anymore, so why should I take a chance on vaccinating my child against it?' and that sort of thing.

Ummm... no.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_swine_flu_outbreak

Anything is dangerous in high quantities.

Over the last hundred years there have only been a few examples pf people turning blue grey. These were not from colloidal silver, but from silver nitrate. There is one example recently of a man that made his own colloidal silver to the strength of 500 parts per million. He would drink a large glass of this each day and it still took ten months for him to change colour. The strengths that should be taken and where there has never be shown to be a problem ever is 5 to 20 parts per million. This should be taken in quantities of one table spoon per day to prevent infections, or one table spoon each hour until better when infected with the flu for example. This will normally be less than 24 hours.

Before anti-biotics, colloidal silver was used by doctors to treat people. People would also put silver coins into the milk container to keep it fresh for longer. However, as colloidal silver cannot make billions for the drug companies, they managed to get its use stopped by the medical profession. It resurfaced in the 1990's as a cheap method of helping people in third world countries with infections by voluntary workers who where independent minded and not controlled by the major charities. As knowledge of its strength grew in Europe and especially in the US, its use has increased as a natural cure with great success.

Ummm... yes, and do you really still use wikipedia

No side effects - as long as one doesn't mind permanently looking like a moon elf if one takes too much of it. That's not to mention that there's no scientific or clinical evidence the stuff even works, let alone does what some shady Internet resellers claim it does.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colloidal_silver

Try cross referrencing it once.. you may just see it's correct.
If you have something more valid that's not from a conspiracy site, post it if you can.

Woah I'm really surprised at the amount of misinformation out there in this thread.

Jig always knows how wake up the forums with her thread topics!! I'm sending you a present via xstreet btw Jig!

Yes, she does - and I'm thankful for this one! I started getting bored after the child skins thread got locked, and the folks at Second Citizen haven't approved my account there yet.

I predict people will start quoting Jenny McCarthy and Suzanne Somers as credible sources before this thread is done.

And held with such strong feeling, too.

(By amazing coincidence I ended up right next to your Burning Life installation---very refreshing! I particularly like that you included the wheelchair-friendly dancing. ^_^ I do recommend this to all: Opal 144, 237.)

Well this thread has been informative.

Fact: I haven't been tested, so, no telling what I got for sure.

Fact: Lotsa hype in the media.

Fact: H1N1 widespread.

That's about all I can hang my hat on, and the kids are getting vaccinated anyway with the flu mist thing once we can get them in (horrendous waiting list) even though I am pretty sure they already had it. Better safe than sorry.

I think Kenbro had a lot of good stuff to say in this thread; I don't know if he's a doctor or anything but it seemed like the wise voice in the room to me.

Thanks ^^ I hope picked up my free spa gift package as well

Instead of the crap on wikipedia, why don't you read something that has some value. The evidence that it does work is overwhelming; you should really be ashamed of yourself Katheryne:

Brief History of The Health Support Uses of Silver

http://www.silver-colloids.com/Pubs/history-silver.html

History of Colloidal Silver

http://www.true-colloidal-silver.com/history.html

Scientific Studies

http://www.silvermedicine.org/scientificstudies.html

I did---thanks! And since I've been looking for a nice G-rated shower poseball for a while, and like the one you have out, there in Opal, I went over to your store to see what might be up for sale...but it looks as though you're remodeling. (I love the shark poster!) I'll check back.

Define conspiracy site.

I'm Des's age. I don't think I've had the flu since I was a kid. I don't remember the 77 flu season being particularly bad, but I was 13 and probably wouldn't remember it if my family didn't get it. I think I was younger than that when I had the flu.

When I get a cold I get the sniffles and runny nose for a couple days, and that doesn't happen every year.

In my job my hands get conspicuously dirty, so I don't touch my face. This is probably a good thing.

I don't remember anyone in my family ever having the flu until just recently my sister had one. She has kids. Little plague vectors.

I'm half convinced I stopped aging and would be relieved if I learned I could actually get sick. I don't particularly want to live forever.

I probably won't get the vaccine.

No, but I did stay in a Hotel 6 once... :^)

Ten years typing medical records, and currently in Quality Assurance for medical records of 3 large Children's hospitals and another half dozen regular hospitals. I know docspeak, and I have to keep abreast of cutting edge medical issues.

My wife would tell you I think I am a doctor though...

And is every country providing FREE vaccine?

Will there be clean needles for everyone?

And will the used vaccine needles be safe from illegal marketeers or unscrupulous health districts that will sell vaccine?

Has WHO (World Health Organization) been instrumental EVERYWHERE or only in developing countries? Is anyone in sl on line from a developing country?

What practical measures (if any) can we do in sl to ease the situation?

I added the following rather lengthy post to another, basically unrelated, thread. It seems to be pertinent to this this thread so i will re-post here for any of you who might be interested.

About a week ago I posted on this thread some information about potential dangers of the H1N1 vaccine. The few people who responded to my post largely dismissed it as the ravings of a lunatic who receives this information telepathically in her sleep. I don’t give a toss about those who dismiss what I wrote with no consideration of the content. But I do care about any of you who may benefit from the information and use it to make an informed decision. For those of you who can only be bothered to name-call, ridicule and minimilise what I write, please stop right here. There is no need for you to read my source documents. And please, please get your swine flu jab as soon as possible. Except for you in that group who reside in the US…you should wait until the adjuvants that have been included in the vaccine being offered throughout the EU, Iceland and Norway are added to the vaccine offered in the US.

For the rest of you who are concerned about the vaccine and would like to know where I got the information contained in my post I offer the following:

This was written by Wayne Madison who is a contributing writer to the progressive Online Journal (www.onlinejounel.com) and was distributed to daily newspapers throughout the US by McClatchy-Tribune Information Services the weekend of October 17-18.

“Forcing untested tonic is a violation of civil liberties
Washington – The rush to approve the vaccine for the H1N1 flu – also known as swine or “novel flu” was based on a combination of the greed of the pharmaceutical industry and uninformed decisions by the awkward alliance of the public health and federal emergency management officials.
At an international swine flu conference in the nation’s capital in September, some public health and medical officials expressed bewilderment over federal, state and local emergency personnel talking of implementing “riot control” at vaccinations stations, mandatory quarantines, forced vaccinations of certain sectors of the population and even “mass fatality management”. The rush of the Food and Drug Administration, Centers for Disease Control, Department of Health and Human Services and the National Institutes of Health in endorsing the swine flu vaccine has created fear, suspicion, and angst among both the general public and the health provider community.
Not assuaging fears about the H1N1 vaccine are the results of President Gerald Ford’s 1976 order for a nationwide swine flu vaccination program after an outbreak of the flu at Fort Dix, N.J.
In subsequent years, reports surfaced of complications from the vaccine that resulted in cases of Guillain-Barre Syndrome, a neuromuscular ailment, and autism, the latter afflicting children who received the vaccine, which reportedly resulted from the presence of thimerosal – a preservative that contains mercury.
Added to the H1N1 vaccine is an oily concoction called squalene that has been shown to cause severe autoimmune conditions, including multiple sclerosis and lupus.
Four New York state nurses recently filed suit before the New York Supreme Court asking it to overturn an order that requires all health-care workers in the state to get both the seasonal and swine flu vaccinations. Even exemptions for religious beliefs were disallowed by the New York State Health Commission.
A British poll this past summer revealed that one-third of British nurses would resist taking the swine flu vaccine and a sizeable number of British doctors and health-care workers in Hong Kong agreed with the assessment of the British nurses that the vaccine was not properly tested.
An Associated Press-GfK poll taken in early October – as the autumn H1N1 pandemic wave began to peak – showed that more than a third of parents in the United Sates would refuse to have their children injected with the swine flu vaccine.
In the rush to approve the swine flu vaccine as “safe”, the Canadian federal government suspiciously decided to offer immunity from lawsuits to the manufacturers of the vaccine.
The Canadian action followed four Canadian research studies that concluded people who had received the seasonal flu vaccine were more likely to contract the H1N1/swine flu virus.
After all the reassurances about the safety of the H1N1 vaccine by senior U.S. government officials, including President Obama himself, the campaign appears to have fallen on deaf ears.
Increasingly Americans –asked to trust their government with their health – are resisting this wholesale violation of their civil liberties. When all is said and done, it’s likely they’ll be glad they “just said no”.”

Note that the article only mentioned the offer of immunity to pharmaceutical companies in Canada and in my earlier post I said Canada and the US. Please read the following for my source on that bit of information:

FROM www.FLU.GOV

“What is the PREP Act?
The Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness Act or PREP Act is a federal law that authorizes the Secretary of Health and Human Services to issue a declaration to provide tort liability immunity (except for willful misconduct) to individuals and organizations involved in the development, manufacture, distribution, administration and use of countermeasures against pandemics, epidemics and diseases and health threats caused by chemical, biological, radiological, or nuclear agents of terrorism.

On June 15, 2009, Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius extended the PREP Act declaration for pandemic vaccines to H1N1 vaccines, and amended the declaration on (date) to add provisions that can help H1N1vaccination campaigns.”

And finally, the squalene noted in the article by Mr. Madison is not currently found in the vaccine being distributed throughout the US. However, the five pharmaceutical companies who are supplying the vaccine to America claim that the absence of this adjuvant is one of the primary reasons for vaccine shortage in the US. The dosage of the actual vaccine you receive with the non-adjuvanated type is roughly double what is found in the adjuvanated form of the vaccine therefore causing a greater consumption but providing fewer doses. And though the CDC has said their policy is for the US vaccine to contain no adjuvants, please note the following from the New York State Department of Health. Oh, and keep in mind, you-know-who declared a state of emergency just two weeks ago.

“Will an adjuvant be added to the H1N1 flu vaccine?
At this time the vaccine that has been licensed does not contain adjuvant. There is recent evidence that an adjuvanated 2009 H1N1 vaccine may be immunogenic at a dose of 7.5 ug. If adjuvanated vaccine becomes available then use of that particular type of vaccine will be given under an Emergency use Authorization (EUA). Under an EUA there are additional requirements for documentation and consent.
If vaccine is adjuvanted, how will it be formulated?
Formulation will vary by provider. For Novartis, vaccine may be pre-formulated with adjuvant (Note: Novartis is currently supplying pre-formulated vaccine throughout the rest of the world). For CSL, GSK and Sanofi Pasteur, mixing of vaccine and adjuvant at the site of administration will be necessary. Specific information on storage requirements and procedures for mixing vaccine and adjuvant will be provided by the CDC. Medimmune vaccine will not be adjuvanted.”
http://www.health.state.ny.us/diseases/communicable/influenza/h1n1/health_care_providers/frequently_asked_questions/vaccine.htm

Hope you all have a lovely day.

I'm a little bit younger than you and Des, who tells a similar tale about not remembering the flu in '77. Maybe it hit the littles harder, because it was nasty in the way this year's flu is supposed to be. My whole class got it, and we got it bad.

This is the one I mean:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza_A_virus_subtype_H1N1#Russian_flu

The 1977–1978 Russian flu epidemic was caused by strain Influenza A/USSR/90/77 (H1N1). It infected mostly children and young adults under 23 because a similar strain was prevalent in 1947–57, causing most adults to have substantial immunity. The virus was included in the 1978–1979 influenza vaccine.

Watch out for the little plague vectors

Our medical system here is 'shaky' to put it kindly. I believe the first batch of vaccines have been delivered and official rollout starts the 2nd. I think you can also 'self-identify' to your GP as being in a vulnerable category. Not all GPs are participating, but I got a letter in the mail on Tuesday saying we could attend a HSE clinic and get vaccinated if personal GPs weren't on board with the program.

As far as I can tell it looks like if you want the vaccine you can get it without too much fuss. Like me though, I don't know if people will. I heard last week in our biggest local primary school, some of the classrooms only had 5 or 6 kids in them. Like Kenbro has cautioned, people are calling every cold and ache Swine, but enough kids/people have turned up positive for the HSE to have definitively identified Swine locally.

Just to throw a spanner into the works...I think there is more than 1 virus/cold going on around here where I am. I'm kind of resigned to getting all of them to one degree or another and getting on with it.

'Course, they had 150 cases confirmed in on our dinky little island back in July, so I stockpiled in a sort of flu kit in case I was incapacitated. I have had to replenish it 3 or 4 times over the last few weeks

Ireland really doesn't have cutting edge general medical care, but the Swine website is pretty good. It doesn't differentiate between 'flu' and 'swine flu' symptoms, but it does make a clear case between colds and flu, the main symptoms being high fever, headache and severe fatigue common in flu and not so in colds.

http://www.hse.ie/eng/services/swineflu/faq/symptoms.html
If anyone wants to look
There's also a grotesque public info ad in the Irish language if anyone wants to look
http://www.hse.ie/eng/services/swineflu/test_advert/Advert_in_Irish.html

my rl partner works in the health service and they get the shots first anyways. I have no truck with a vaccination service that prioritises 'vulnerable' local drug addicts, ahead of the working populace. If you are healthy then fight it off, don't inject your body with a knee jerk reaction drug rolled out ahead of proper trials to combat a vastly overstated problem. Eat sensibly, exercise and supplement any diet deficiencies.