"teh"

Well I'm glad this got bumped up because my computer died before I saw any of the responses and by the time I got back online, I'd forgotten about it. Guess I wasn't clear but sure, I knew teh started as a typo (duh!). And we all do typos, myself included. But sometimes seeing the same person use it every time, in group chats, it became obvious that it was intentional. Seems to me that if one decides to become a "tehtard", there must be a training period, it must take a while to form the new habit. So, the becomes the typo. Sorry but it seems idiotic, but then...I'm a gnarly goat dude.

Now about some of those "vanity" group tags.....

nvm

It's great to see teh "teh" thread back again and riddling its way into people. despite my protest you simply dont believe teh can be "normal" typing for a person. I type with two fingers and my speed is high. teh is so normal to type I never bother to correct it here. Sorry, if you dont liek that then dont read what is posted. If its drama so what? The forums isnt a shopping list. th occurs in my chat and IM also. Since I hardly chat with anyone other than my partner its a non-issue.

I think we forget in sl that we really just have to take peopel as tehy are instead of simply declaring that as a kinda mantra every time someone is slightly diffrent. Also I think we get a "picture" of people in sl that simply doesnt relfect their reality. I am no tlazy in real, simply type very fast as I move on to toher emails (yes I use teh in my emails - no one, not ever has complained and if they think I am a stupid little dreamer, well, I fortunately can say f**k 'em).

I will continue to use teh. It is now my credo, my statement. Others will follow. We will "teh" teh world. teh world will be teh.

By the way, coz of some quirk I sometimes dont use caps at start of a sentence. not sure why on that.

DING! DING! We have a winner! I agree, they do NOT look cool or on top of current trends. I for one, start subracting IQ points from my evaluation of the person using them in any context other than questioning (like the OP) or sarcastic parody.

However, you CAN have fun with them! I had someone asking me questions about an RP area in which I live, and every sentence was text-messaging abbreviations mixed with gamer/leet-speak. I finally told them 'I am sorry but I seem to have left my universal translator at home today, so please use english rather than leet-speak." At that point, a friend nearby chimed in with a paraphrase of a line from the movie Airplane! ' Excuse me, sir. I speak leet.' I assume the storm of symbols and gibberish that followed was some form of insults directed at us, but without my universal translator, my ability to comprehend less-evolved lifeforms is somewhat lacking.

Jig,
Read back your own posting if you want, and amaze yourself.
The forum indeed is no shopping list. Instead it is a public medium on which you present yourself to the world. Some presentation you are giving...

The fact is, that you are apparently 'too lazy/not interested/not intelligent enough' to use any kind of spelling correction. So the way you present yourself, is 'lazy/uninterested/unintelligent'. Not too smart, I would say, and certainly not 'cool'.

As a non-native speaker, it bothers me that people who are unable to type one sentence without errors, refuse to use some form of spelling correction. It is the least you can do to make your postings readable. Might help you in being taken more seriously.

Dude? No, not unless I was being sarcastic with someone that speaks that way.

No.

No, never worn flip-flops in my life. Nice shirt and dockers for going out in public.

No, my friends would be insulted to be referred to as a 'homey'. I'd greet them with 'Good morning / Afternoon / evening' or a simple "Hello, how are you today?'. If I know someone fairly well, I may make it a more personalized greeting...I have greeted the owner/admin for the sim I live in with 'Hello Fearless Leader!'.

Casual is fine, contemporary is good too. But not when not taken to the extreme of look/acting/speaking like you are an uneducated/mentally-challenged adult or a pre-teen fad-chaser...that is not comtemporary, that is pack mentality. Apparently, I associate with a more civilized and independent group of individuals, both RL and VR.

Most people don't worry about what leets think of them, Alvaro. I know I do not worry about the opinions of persons that cannot follow simple rules of clear, concise communication and resort to Leet-speak. If ESL users (English as a Second Language) can type clearly and understandably in these forums and in SL, why should I have ANY tolerance for folks deciding to attempt to communicate in what amounts to a degenerate form of english?

I have neither the time or interest to translate the hieroglyphics of leet to english, and have found leet users generally never have anything interesting to say that is worth the effort / time expenditure.

Indeed, someone who speaks like they are an uneducated/mentally-challenged adult or a pre-teen fad-chaser, should not be surprised when addressed like one


My point exactly. As one of those ASL users, I know that I do make grammatical mistakes. But the least I can do, is type as understandable and readable as possible.

casual and contemporary? me?

hardly

Well now that depends, doesn't it? Are you a 'native' ASL speaker? Or is english your first language? If you have never heard speech, were educated in Deaf schools, and ASL is your first language, then you are going to type in ASL syntax, which as you know, is mostly backward from english. Does it signal stupidity,or a mental challenge? No, it does not. It signals that the person is an ASL speaker, and that ASL is the syntax they think in, so that is what comes off their fingers. I have a Deaf friend that regularly asks me to interpret for him, on SL, when he is desperately trying to make himself understood, to an english speaker. The english speaker invariably thinks he's speaking something other than english or that something is wrong with him. When I arrive and explain and interpret, the english speaker is always so amazed that 'Wow Treasure, you are Deaf? But you speak so well!'. Really annoying, so then I have to explain that my friend was born Deaf and has never heard normal speech. I am late deafened, lost my hearing as an adult, post-lingually. So yes, I speak clear english and he does not. Usually it creates interest, not derision. I can handle either, though, and have been on the receiving end of both. I am fluent in ASL because I chose to learn it as my hearing loss progressed, not because it is native to me.

Maybe I was not clear enough, but I was talking about posting on forums. In this case I wrote down 'speaking' where I should have written 'writing'.
Using ASL was a typo, should have been ESL. English is a second language for me, that is why I said i was one of those ESL users.

The fact that someone who is deaf, speaks a very unclear form of English, is pretty normal as they cannot hear themselves back. I know people doing the same in my language, and are not the least bothered by that of course.
Not at all comparable with people that f*ck up a language just because they think it is 'cool'. It is not. Neither in speak, nor in writing.

That one really gets me if I hear it.
"How are you TODAY?"

Don't they want to hear about my yesterday, or the days before?
Are they implying that my yesterdays are irrelevant?
Why today of all days?

And why the whole day - all of it?
What if I had a bitch of a morning and was just regaining my usual good humour? Now this inconsiderate person walks up to me and starts asking about my today - reminding me of my awful morning and depressing me - just when I was starting to feel really good.

If the time-window is important enough to mention, why not "How are you this second/minute/morning/afternoon?". Why the whole day??

People who say "how are you today?" are being just plain inconsiderate, imposing constraints on the responder. For what purpose? What is so interesting about the entirety of someone's current day to the exclusion of all their other days that they have to interrogated about it?

I think this proves how easy it is to misunderstand things when a typo is critical . . .

Pep (I presume that you meant to type ESL not ASL, Marcel?)

ETA: Not fast enough - you had clarified yourself already, Marcel.

Ok Jig you confuse me...you seem to say--forgive me if I misinterpret--that your use of teh is a consequence of your typing style, but then you vow to continue using it, which suggests intent. Which is it? And noticing all your typos in that post, if they ARE typos (ha, I don't mind typos), I wonder if you ever type the as a typo, and if so, do you panic about blowing your hipper than thou image and "correct" it?

Indeed, that was one typo that my spelling correction did not intercept. And believe me, I need that thing with the way I abuse my keyboard...

You mean I wrote that entire post for nothing? lol *Cheers!*

*NOT* for nothing Treasure. It was a clear exposition of a reasonable attitude.

Pep (Just not relevant to Marcel )

Well in fact it was relevant to me, in a way. Because I learned that ASL actually stands for something, whereas it was only a typo at first Explains why my spelling correction did not interfere.

And once again the Residents Answer forum offers education . . .

Pep ( . . . as well as information and entertainment)

PS As an aside Marcel, if I have ever been rude about your English I apologise, as it is so good that I would have never considered you an ESL user.

Well i wish i had saw this before i said i feel sorry for you.

Masochism for the win.

Keep on going Jig, you have earned your beat downs, you apparently like them. The taste of blood in the mouth is a turn on for some...

A time limitation prevents them from telling you their life story!

Oh sure, though they only migrated from RL across the digital bridge into the internet - it's not their domain of origin.

Trolls have been around since grunts and hoots began the evolution of language as we know it today. Very powerful method to influence listeners without much investment of energy.

Sans the additional meaning cues of body language, verbal tone, facial expressions, odors, and such, trolls find it much easier here than face-to-face to mislead, dissemble, incite, and upset.

But trolls do provide business development services to technology companies by increasing the overall volume of electronic communications, thereby driving demand higher for access, bandwidth, and storage.

"Everything is deeply intertwingled" - Ted Nelson

You know that most of your comments are to the point for many common transpositions involving the t and the h in mid-word, but not for a T-E-H sequence (which is not a common transposition sequence). TEH requires that you hit the T and E with the same finger with a backward movement to the E (using your logic) before striking the single follow letter H with the other strike finger. That's not how transpositions generally happen. And for what it is worth, touch typists are more likely to create transpositions because of differing strike rates of fingers, but like ten key people, they recognize and correct the error almost without thinking. Speaking as someone that once proofed three typists that were all over the 100 wpm mark on Selectrics when pushed.

The primary proponent of teh seems to have no problem at all with any other T-H sequences. Why would 'thanks' be any easier or more difficult than 'teh'? Just my opinion, but it seems a studied mannerism calculated to catch attention, for good or ill.

I'll fade back to lurker status now.

fxd 4u pep: Pep (u sux)

I havent got a clue what you are on about. I was being sarcastic. Like a certain other. Beat downs! Taste of blood - that's pretty disgusting.

It is amazing how many people let the little things get to them. Or is it that their brains are not good enough to make in the in flight translation, move on, and not let it impact them at all?

No wonder you humans have such short lives! Don't sweat the things that you are capable of dealing with - just deal, let them slide, and rest up for the big things that need all your ability to deal with!