"teh"

Again you make the mistake that I need to lighten up. It is not so.
You are still overreacting, I didn't say you were terrible but you were getting upset at people poking fun at your typing and yet we all poke fun at stuff, case in point as I highlighted. It was not supposed to be a big huge point to get worked up over - it was just to serve as an example.

Also I don't care how bad your english is as long as I can understand you. I have to admit there are a lot of times I don't understand your posts at all. I think they say one thing and clearly you meant something else. I have no idea whether I fail to understand, whether you fail to communicate, or both perhaps but there you go.

I am NOT upset at people poking fun at my typing. I actually think its great. Really. I love it. I am not being sarcastic. Its "me" It's who I am. Please dont get teh idea I am upset by that. What upsets me is hat people assume that spelling errors/lazy grammar indicate stupidity; that is not poking fun thats just the usual prejudice.
NOTE teh THE - see?

Well, I have never called you stupid nor indicated I think you are. I just fail to understand you. You certainly seemed upset so again I just don't understand you at all.
I wonder if I am the only one or whether others find it hard to understand you also. I am not talking about spelling here either.

I think you have given me a marvellous compliment. "I fail to understand you" suggests I am exactly as I wish to present myself even in this limited dimensional world. You should certainly appreciate that since YOU are "unpredictabily complex".
You will NEVER understand me. Not even my mother "understands" me. And if a lover claims to "understand" me in real I dump them.

OK let me be more specific - I cannot understand what you say. If I cannot understand what you say then it is garbage to me and worthless me attempting to parse what you write.

Hey it's Mr Chippewa! Don't you think it might have been more honest to state your relationship openly, so that others could assess whether you might be just slightly biased? I won't comment on whether you might be Jig's alt, or whether an "academic" as she describes you would make an error like spelling "tidiness" as "tidyness" since perhaps you may mimic her explanation to some extent and claim to be in the initial phases of dementia. I seem to have heard your "argument" (easily dismissable as being the wishful thinking of poseurs and poor spellers against accurate criticism) before - did you copy her or vice versa?

Pep (Do you really think anyone is going to respect *your* opinion any more than they do Jig's?)

"Danger, danger, danger Will Robinson!"

Pep (The WMD from Milton Keynes . . . )

The first three are wonderful examples of pure commercial opportunism attempting to cash in and sell out by being apparently anti-establishment.

Pep (The last is usually the mark of a poseur)

It;s just trolling language from last century.

See below, of course he loves it, because trolling is all about gaining attention. What I tyoed above is a typing mystake because I have Glucoma in one eye.

You'll have to forgive my typos - the fairies are having sex on my keyboard again!

I have a tendency to mis-type "the" a lot, and it ends up as either "teh" or "th e". Yeah, my fingers are faster than my brain sometimes.

On the other hand, I honestly don't get why people think it's cool to type like they flunked out of kindergarten; I suppose it takes the same mental processes that make people believe dressing like they never learned how to pull their pants up is cool as well. Seriously - there's enough real idiots in the world; do we need wannabes too?

The whole SMS shorthand and intentional typo thing doesn't generally bother me, but it depends on where it's used. In a chatroom setting, such as within SL, it doesn't bother me unless it's so bad that it takes me longer to figure out what was just said than it's worth, in which case I just ignore it completely. On the other hand, in forums, blogs, and the like, I have higher standards, simply because there is no reason for anyone to need to use shorthand when there is all the time in the world available to compose a message. When I see all that text-message crap in a message board, one big thought pops into my head: "Dude! Are you actually trying to access the forums on your cell phone? Seriously? You really need a life!"

What it all boils down to is this: In communication, it is just as much the sender's responsibility to be understood as it is the receiver's responsibility to understand. If the sender can't be bothered to take the time to make him- or herself understandable, then I can't be bothered to take the time to read the message.

We should all lighten up....

RU H34|z0r?

i say lets try to play it backwards and see what happens.

RU H34|z0r

ok now backwards

And shes buying a stairway to heaven.


seems harmless to me

As soon as I can I shall let "Hal" know he should come on to defend his "honour". He is a real man. There are obvious reality reasons why I can know that. I also love Hal - I am not ashamed to state that. I call him Hal because when I met him I couldnt say "ProfessorKindly Kline" in one go. I made up his name. In a very meaningful way, he has saved my life. He is my confidante and is really my only reason for being in sl. Sometimes real people do meet here who do just LIKE each other. Sometimes our occupations prevent a closer relationship - my work and teh fact that it occupies so much of my life prevent us from being together. So many many things cant "gel" with his life also in real to help us to cohabit in real. Not all of us are able to give up real lives and alter our path in our worlds. A number of people in teh forum have met Hal as he and I interacted and I think can assure you that we are NOT the same.

If you werent so vicious to me I would invite you to meet me in sl, to see my art galleries/home and to meet Hal. Maybe it would convince you that I can be witty, kind and in my own way very pleasant company. In real Hal is away from his home right now so he may not be on imemdiately.

One word of advice Pep. Hal and I are real people. People do respect our opinions both in reality and here. Not everyone has teh same issues you have. Long long ago, a wise person in sl told me to remember that at every keyboard there is a real person. Even YOU are very real. Just because Hal VERY reluctantly came on to forum to add something of what I spoke to him about does not mean he is "fodder" for your vile comments. Show some respect for others Pep as you hope others shall show to you.

Oh, and its Jig Chippewa-Kline and he is Kline. If I could I would change my last name to teh hyphenated as a mark of respect to my partner for what he has done for me.

Actually that would be an improvement in both grammar and punctuation!

And no, I'm not kidding.

Wrong!

Pep (I don't exist, except for the purposes of SL)

Okay.

Oh, yes, indeed. In fact, there's a huge debate in some quarters as to whether "pwn" is pronounced "Pawn" or "Pone".

(I advise staying out of those quarters.)

the P replacing the O would be OWN which is PWN for the typo but then there is Pwnt also but that was intended to make it a word itself lol
there is also ownage and pwnage..

hope this helps hahaha

Well, for the tiny numbers of people who could possibly care one way or another, Jig and I are partners in SL. That is stated openly (and permanently, I hope) on both of our profiles. She is an excellent partner: a good designer, an excellent eye for SL art, very well read, mostly calm and thoughtful, and a tendency to be hasty in typing, which I consider to be a pretty good deal. I would say that wouldn't I? Well, maybe. Some people speak well of their partners, and I've noticed that others speak badly. It takes all sorts.

No, I am not Jig's alt. What an odd thing to say 'I wont comment on whether...' - thereby commenting. So I won't comment on whether that's an intellectually impoverished sort of debating trick.

I don't know whether anybody respects my opinion or not, nor do I expect any respect beyond what the opinions deserve on their own merit: I expect some people will agree with me and some will disagree with me and apparently one will go wild, though I really don't know why.

To the point of the thread: when we first started teaching larger numbers of foreign students in my daytime job, some of my colleagues became as irritated with their struggles with punctuation as engaged with their understanding of difficult technical subjects. I was too, I admit. Then I reconsidered this position and now I encourage them to improve their English but do not make it a precondition. I don't say this is the only defensible approach but it is the one I consider more helpful in the real world. I take the same view about accents: would anybody think it is right to jeer at someone whose regional accent means you have to work a bit harder to understand them?

Tremendously!

"Paraleipsis":

n. (Rhet.) A pretended or apparent omission; a figure by which a speaker artfully pretends to pass by what he really mentions; as, for example, if an orator should say, «I do not speak of my adversary's scandalous venality and rapacity, his brutal conduct, his treachery and malice.» [Written also paralepsis, paralepsy, paralipsis.]

Returning to the actual issue of the OP.

When in IM, or on MSN, I can understand typo's very well. And yes I make them too. So no problem there, people are typing and will make mistakes. But here on the forums? Where (at least in my browser) spell checking your posting can be done even while typing? No need for typos or mistakes at all.

The most important question you have to ask yourself: If someone does not take the trouble to spell check a post, how serious do I have to take them regarding the content? Why should I bother, when they do not?

And as for the cool-factor: recently we had a poll about the average age of the forum readers. It appears to me that most of those are old enough to be cool without deliberate typos. Speaking for myself: my RL age is 41, and yes I well grew over the phase where deliberately violating language was considered cool.

One imagines that the word "artful" was inserted with ironic intent by a lexicographer with a refined sense of humor.

Or, if not irony (plausible for any virtuous surveyor of this disingenuous practice)...

...possibly a genius for rationalizing (his own bad behavior?)....


We shall probably never know.