Can Any One Help Me Understand, Please?

Hi, my av name is Sapphire Hotaling, and I've been in SL for a year and a half. During that time, I've met a lot of wonderful people, whom I've learned so much from, building, scripting, DJ'ing, you name it. I've done so much in here, and I'm making plans start giving classes, to share what myself and my partner have learned here.

Something happened within the past week...that quite frankly, astounded me. A very good DJ friend of mine in SL, had his name ripped from him, and was forced to come up with another one. This DJ's name is now 'CrazyIvan Oh'...the artist formerly known as "DJ Ivanerection Oh'.

A little background on Ivan. He is one of the most respectful people I know in SL. His wife in RL, comes to SL by his side, as his partner and best friend. You couldn't ask to meet two more wonderful people. Ivan is a little crazy, (The FUN kind that makes you laugh) without being disrespectful, or lewd. Ivan's main interest in SL are building and music...he's one of the best DJs in SL I've had the pleasure of working with.

So, you can imagine my surprise when he told me that he was forced to change his name..after talking in IM with a 'newbie Linden' whose name I won't publish here. He NEVER saw this Linden face-to-face', merely spoke with her in IM about some sim issues. Nothing was ever said to him about his avatar name by this Linden. Then, a few days later, his account was 'frozen'...and he was not allowed back in until he changed his name. No warnings, no 'can you please change your name'...just a nasty lock-out.

Now, I take issue with this, on more than one point. I have seen many avatar names in SL, that are far worse than Ivan's was. "Pennis Blister'...Fuukmee Sideways'...and a countless host of others. Not to mention the people who are associated with the seamier side of SL, sex clubs, strippers, escorts and all the deviants that seem to run rampant throughout SL. How can they keep their names? I could perhaps understand the actions of the Lindens more clearly, had Ivan violated TOS, or had caused problems for people. But, that one of the things I like about Ivan...he's always there to lend a hand, show a new person the ropes, or share what he's learned in SL with regards to building, DJ'ing, music...you name it. Ivan CARES about people...he's a REAL person in SL..not someone who's here to play games or be something he's not.

And, furthermore...WHO chooses the last names that are available when you first come to SL? I mean, seriously here guys...You see a last name like 'Oh'...and the possibilies are endless...The Lindens decide these last names...yet, if one has a clever spin to put on it (after all, Second Life IS a virtual world people) they decide to lock you out till you 'conform'...Big brother is watching peeps...and his last name is LINDEN!!

If anyone has any comments on this post, please feel free to voice your opinion. Those of us who support Ivan are curious to know if this has happened to anyone else...and more over, if this has happened to anyone who actually DESERVED it! Feel free to IM me inworld if you have any other questions!!


Sapph

Ivanerection Oh

Awesome Name A+++++ would LOL again

I head some one a while back ago had issue with their name because it had word Gay in it but he was able to fight it.
I don't see why the word "erection" would be inappropriate for the adult grid but that just is me there could be whole lot more vulgar names to be chosen but I am not in charge.

Oh, governance team

only one minor correction here , she never spoke to me or saw me. She was there to help by the request of the land owner for a server bug. All she did was report me and to my knowledge never bothered with the server problem, but then again they don't speak to we lesser types ,, i have been a PAYING member of sl for over a year and 7 months!!! I even wrote to Linden Labs over a year ago asking to change my name, their reply was simply live with it or quit. So it's not like they didn't know i was existed. I have spent thousands of REAL dollars in the sl economy , helped many new members out and have been a decent citizen of sl, yet i was treated like dirt without even a notification of why my account was suspended.
CrazyIvan Oh formerly known as IVANERECTION OH !!!

on a 1st name basis now....





all us Oh's should have an Oh party

makesure youwear yourOhface

Ivanerection Oh.....Is one of the most respected members of my SL Pier Group......He will continue to be known affectionally as Ivanerection Oh.......The Lindens have simply screwed up on this one as they usually do on major decisions that govern our lives in here....

LL only responds to Abuse Reports


Thus if those other names haven't been reported they wouldn't have even been looked at. If all they do is hang out in sex areas, they would unlikely ever go reported.


As to why they asked someone named Ivanerection to change their name ..

Um..

Surely its not that hard to figure out.

But we dont hang out in sex clubs...LOL......You are letting your imagination run rampant, there, Colette.....

Yep.. Gaybot..

It'll be.. er.. hard to get a name with 'erection' back in, though. :\

Colette, Sorry, but Ivan didnt deserve this treatment. I have seen alot of names in here that are far worse. Ivan & his wife are 2 of the most real, sincere couple in here. I for one are happy to consider them friends.

I didn't say you did.

I said that say if "Fuukme Oh" only hung out at sex clubs,

that person would very likely not be reported.

But if "Fuukme Oh" hung out in a PG sim, like say the Ahern welcome area ...

that person would very likely be reported and have to change their name.

The original poster asked why someone named Ivanerrection would have to change his name and someone named Fuukme would not ...

Well that is why.

Well, Collette...if you look at Ivan's profile...he's been in SL since 2/07...and I think...had he been 'abusive' to someone...this would have been an issue long before now.

Now...for the 'ironic' part...when Ivan first made his name, it was a joke. He had no intention of being in SL for very long, and when he discovered all the things SL has to offer in the music realm...his name became widely known in the DJ world, and he became a very popular, successful DJ. And, even MORE ironic, not long after he rezzed inworld, he ASKED THE LINDENS if he could change his name...they told him, 'Absolutely, positively NOT'.

One thing I forgot to mention, that anoter poster brought to the forefront of my mind. I have been an owner of two clubs in SL. Clubs, no matter what their venue, seem to attract the deviants with the whacked out names, with their groups section chock full of sex parks and pleasure palaces. So...those types of people don't stay in those areas one hundred percent of the time.

I would also like to add...Ivan participates in the MATURE section of SL...now, doesn't MATURE mean grown ups? LOL!! Sorry if I sound bitter, guys, but I've seen so much craziness that's allowed to go on in SL...even witnessed another club owner steal funds from a NATIONAL CHARITY in the US..and NOTHING was done to her!!!! So, why should a little thing like a name choice, made almost two years ago...suddenly become such a big deal?

Its not like there is a grading scale of names

Someone complained about Ivanerrection's name specifically and the Linden who got that AR agreed with it.


Those other "far worse" names first would have had to be reported and they would have to have Lindens agree the name was bad.


Also there are a lot of people when you do "People Searches" whose accounts might not be typically used.

SL has a 90% churn rate.

ROFLMAO poopmaster!! I want you on my friends list!! LOL!!!

I've seen far, far worse names. They too may one day find themselves having to change them, given the TOS and CS. Mind you, I'm not passing a value judgement or nothing -- just that I see how this could happen.

As to how the last names get picked... which Linden was doing that? Jack? I bet he's probably pretty bogged down lately.

No, Collette...you obviously missed the part where I discussed the sim issues, and a newbie Linden. THAT is when the trouble all started...and she didn't have the decency to say anything to him at that time...

Colette...you wouldn't happen to be a Linden, would you?

OH...and if anyone would like to meet Ivan in person, he's DJ'ing tonight at Club Onyx at 5 PM SL Time!! HE RAWkS!!!

Its the same on other games, in Everquest where I came from they dont really go after the semi offesive names unless someone files a complaint. We had a guy on my server who went 5 years and 70+ level with the name "Flobknob" untill someone filed a complaint with SOE about it and it was changed.

Dont be mad at Linden Labs, be mad at the person who filed an official complaint with them.

I didn't say I thought his name should be changed

I just said how the system typically works

A linden seeing him - same difference as a Abuse report ..

The point being the Lindens don't search the grid for bad names.

They don't search the grid for anything!

But once they have been made aware of something *THEN they act*

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That is why some people with "worse" names that Ivanerection don't get changed, while Ivanerection did get his name changed.

It has nothing to do with if his name was worse, it just has something to do with what the Lindens were aware of.

I just want to say that Ivanerection's name was a clever play on words that has been the subject of many entertaining and fun interactions in SL. People respond to Ivan because he is a sincere and kindhearted man who never caused anyone a moment's grief in SL. He's a talented builder and a wonderful DJ. His frends have supported him fully on this issue because they know the man behind the name is a good person. I for one am proud to call him my husband in rl and my partner in SL. Thank you to Sapph, JD, Catz and anyone else who posted here to address this issue. It really means a lot to know that our friends care about how upsetting this has been to him!

We love you all dearly and are so fortunate to call you our friends.

As far as the Lindens go, they can suspend accounts, force someone to change their name, or do any number of things to enforce their "standards," however they cannot cause real harm to anyone who has the kind of friends we have in SL. That's the true beauty of this place. The friends we have made and the fun we have getting to know people we might never have had the good fortune to meet otherwise. For that I am grateful and the Lindens CANNOT regulate that out of our SLs.

Now ..

With that said I don't think they should have changed the name. But it shouldn't be surprizing that they did.

In my personal opinion if he wants to be named Erection .. whatever. I really don't care. I never would have reported him.

I might of told him i thought his name was dumb, but never would have reported him.


This isn't the same thing as all as what happened to Gaybot. Gaybot was a pretty PG name. That name change was obviously discriminatory.

But "Gay" is a sexual orientation thing, its a civil rights thing.

"Erections" while most certainly useful things, are usually kept under wraps .. Literally.. in public.

VERY well said, Lexa!!! THAT is why Prime and I are proud to call you and Ivan friends in SL!!!!!

What does it matter if he was nice to puppies and visited his grandmother every day? His name was in violation. Period. Some one reported him or a newbie Linden saw it and later asked for clarification from her boss. However it happened, his name was in violation so it was changed. Why is it such drama?

This is pretty much the thing. Names are required to be "PG".

Evidently someone being an "Erection" in SL isn't "PG".

Go figure.