New TOS/CS pages are up...

"Go and talk to them, make them feel like they have been listened to."

Please post the URL and line where Linden Lab provides a definition for such a thing as "non-advertised Adult content". From my reading this does not exist.

Irony. On the topic of where you can have pixel sex in SL, LL is doing nothing but jerking everyone off.

Well... This helps. (^_^)

https://blogs.secondlife.com/community/land/blog/2009/06/26/zindra-an-update

http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Adult_content

Was it good for you?

Come again?

So after three months of feedback and discussion Linden Lab show they do listen to the community by cutting parcels, all you naysayers should aplogise now

Well at least Jack clarified some points but this is still one hell of a mess.

So I filed a support ticket, to see what they would say. Here's the response I got:

I wonder what will happen when they eventually figure out you can cam into buildings?

You know what will happen..........

They'll point to the community standards that say adult activity is not permitted on mainland.

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Well, I'm not positive, but I bet it has something to do with Obama!

i'm pretty sure places like Caledon are private regions, and can be used for adult content. perhaps sell (or abaondon) your LL land and go rent from someone trustworthy, such as Desmond Shang.

*sighs* I don't see anything here that clarifies anything. There is still no mention of private homes on the mainland. And while they do talk a lot about "advertises or publicly promotes" that alone does not exempt private homes, rules of omission are tricky things.

I do see that they are really pushing private regions, which makes me think that they will enforce the no adult content on the mainland very strictly. Private homes included.. They will just tell you to move to a private region. This all looks very much like they want the mainland to be totally Disneyfied.

So my partner and I are going to give up our mainland, move to a homestead, declare it adult and white list it. That way we will not have to worry about all of this on a personal level. Though what this will do to SL as a whole looks very, very bad.

We are also dropping our four premium accounts down to basic. I expect that the mainland will become a ghost land very quickly.

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I'm pretty well posting this everywhere now as it's explicit

It is. Thanks for that. Now, if they'll only add it to the FAQ. (T_T)

Alas it means nothing, when they changed open spaces and said people were abusing them people pointed out they'd filed tickets and been told their usage was fine.

Well, that is encouraging. But until it actually SAYS THAT in the TOS or CS, it's just Mattew Linden's opinion, and not an authoratative policy statement. Though now if you get AR'ed for adult stuff in private on a Mature sim, you could try to use that in your defense.

1 user agrees. (^_^)y

Well, maybe not him, but it will involve some other slimebag, headline grabbing political hack, Mark Kirk, Chuck Schumer, it doesn't matter

Some scandal will come up, an unverified avatar who turns out to be a kid will either cam into , or be involved in a "private tryst", perhaps one of a less than traditional nature, and panic will ensue. Because unverifieds can access mainland, LL will take the coward's route and restrict all adult activity to Zindra only, all other mainkand will be PG only.

Another user agrees.

Everything I have read or experianced so far with Linden Labs is that the only thing that counts is what is in the TOS and CS. Everything else is just the personal opinion of an employee. And considering how LL has constantly changed the rules over and over again even then that would only be the rule for that day. The next day the rule could be different.

Everything so far has pointed to a progressive effort to force all adult content off the mainland and perhaps out of Second life all together. This Adult Content fiasco is just the first step in the plan, whatever that plan might be.

The only option I see at this point is to leave the mainland for now, and pray that another Virtual World like Second Life arrives soon. It looks like we are all going to need another place to go before too long.

I'm not positive, I'm unionized.

Aren't LL still making a delineation between 'mature' and 'adult'? If so then saying nothing 'adult' can happen on land designated 'mature' is not anything new. If LL are also defining 'adult' as public sales or services of some sort.

I realise that is a lot of "ifs".

I think if a major shift had been made which suddenly disallows mature content (on mature land) within the privacy of one's home, and without content being advertised to the public as such, there would've been a new blog or announcement about that?

There isn't enough land in Zindra to accomodate everyone that has 'mature' items within their own homes in SL, on mature land. Not only that but at that point wouldn't Zindra be rendered a bit useless? Why not simply change existing land names to Zindra, then.

And this, right there, is the devil in the details. I don't have the time or the will anymore to go backtracking everything Blondin had posted, but I am quite sure that, when you get right down to it, he had not committed to *anything*. Nearly everything he said was non-committal. So, basically, going strictly by the new TOS, *nothing* Blondin had stated as "should be okay" can be trusted -- You do so at your account's peril!