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Pussycat Catnap
Sex Kitten
Join date: 15 Jun 2009
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06-25-2009 11:35
From: Tarina Sewell
I made an alt and was at one of the info hubs and on voice there was a girl entertaining a couple men with dramatic descriptions of an adult action... everyone heard it.. Swearing and moaning and well you can imagine...

I saw a few true new people there and a few commented on is this what SL is like...


A Zindra infohub?

Well... if those new people went to Zindra, they knew ahead of time of what they were going to. You don't enter a porn shop if porn offends you and expect a right to complain when you get offended...

Remember they had to take a number of steps to reach that hub, which result in getting pretty informed.

If it was a mainland infohub though, that's obviously another matter.
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Milla Janick
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Join date: 2 Jan 2008
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06-25-2009 11:40
The Zindra Infohub has the same rules as other mainland hubs. You can also end up there unintentionally when logging into another location that is unavailable.
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Angel Leviathan
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Join date: 1 May 2003
Posts: 440
06-25-2009 11:41
From: Milla Janick
The Zindra Infohub has the same rules as other mainland hubs. You can also end up there unintentionally when logging into another location that is unavailable.


I thought I read that this was fixed. Maybe not.. err
Milla Janick
Empress Of The Universe
Join date: 2 Jan 2008
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06-25-2009 11:50
From: Angel Leviathan
I thought I read that this was fixed. Maybe not.. err

It may be fixed now. If it is, who knows how long it will stay fixed.
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Ceera Murakami
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Join date: 9 Sep 2005
Posts: 7,750
06-25-2009 11:57
Well, supposedly if you do NOT have Adult checked, and you crash and wind up somewhere random, it's not supposed to be an Adult hub you end up at. And supposedly if you DO have adult checked, and you crash and end up somewhere random, it SHOULD be an Adult Hub you end up at.

But even the Zindra hub has a "No Nudity" rule. So if you were with your lover when you crashed, and log back in to find yourself at the Zindra info hub, you're STILL in trouble. Just not as much trouble as if you wound up in a PG sim, in the buff.
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Ralektra Breda
Template Painter
Join date: 7 Apr 2008
Posts: 1,875
06-25-2009 11:58
From: Blot Brickworks
I have been through all my stuff i can only think of 2 offenders.

A wooden mermaid picture.exposed breasts but not photo realistic.

A 1prim alpha David statue with a fig leaf over his privates.If you click the leaf it opens and he says the standard OMG!

Will they be allowed or do I dump them.


Your mermaid is too beautiful to dump...maybe put an optional lei on her :)
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Osprey Therian
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Join date: 6 Jul 2004
Posts: 5,049
06-25-2009 12:02
From: Ceera Murakami
Well...

That pretty much blows out of the water all the promises that adult activity "in the privacy of your own residence" was going to remain allowed on Mature sims, doesn't it?



It seems to refer to "publicly promoted adult activities or content" not private and unadvertised places.
Argent Stonecutter
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Join date: 20 Sep 2005
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06-25-2009 12:03
From: Osprey Therian
It seems to refer to "publicly promoted adult activities or content" not private and unadvertised places.
The CS doesn't mention "publicly promoted".
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Osprey Therian
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06-25-2009 12:04
Maturity Definition:
"Any Region must be designated Adult and therefore require account verification, if it advertises or publicly promotes the following..."
Argent Stonecutter
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06-25-2009 12:05
From: Ralektra Breda
Your mermaid is too beautiful to dump...maybe put an optional lei on her :)
Is it really possible to lei a mermaid?
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Osprey Therian
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Join date: 6 Jul 2004
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06-25-2009 12:08
CS:
"In either case, any Adult content, activity, or communication, that falls under our Adult Maturity Definition must be on regions designated as 'Adult."

Adult Maturity Definition:
"Any Region must be designated Adult and therefore require account verification, if it advertises or publicly promotes the following:

* Representations of intensely violent acts, whether or not photo-realistic (for example, depicting death, torture, dismemberment or other severe bodily harm)
* Photo-realistic nudity; photo-realistic means that an image either is or cannot be distinguished from a photograph
* Expressly sexually themed content, spaces or activities (whether or not photo-realistic); we will broadly define what is "sexually themed" to include any sexually oriented activities and conduct"
Ceera Murakami
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Join date: 9 Sep 2005
Posts: 7,750
06-25-2009 12:10
From: Osprey Therian
Maturity Definition:
"Any Region must be designated Adult and therefore require account verification, if it advertises or publicly promotes the following..."
But what is in the CS makes NO mention of publicly advertizing or promoting. It says that if the maturity ratings would call it Adult, it IS NOT PERMITTED on the mainland.

The maturity ratings page says athat ALL sexually themed content is Adult, but that it only mandates flagging the sim Adult if the sim or locatuions in the sim are advertized.

The CS is MUCH more broad in their ban.

CS:
From: someone
Second Life is an adult community, but 'Adult' content, activity and communication are not permitted on the Second Life 'mainland.' Such material is permitted on private regions, or on the Adult Continent, Zindra.


What follows that is a statement that even on a private sim, it is only allowed if the sim is flagged as Adult. That is NOT a qualifier saying it is OK unless the Maturity Ratings force the Adult rating.
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Osprey Therian
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Join date: 6 Jul 2004
Posts: 5,049
06-25-2009 12:11
I'd like it if all mainland PG was turned into Mature. PG seems worthless. I can see a business using that rating on a private region, but why would a university? That seems counter to everything one associates with universities.
Ciaran Laval
Mostly Harmless
Join date: 11 Mar 2007
Posts: 7,951
06-25-2009 12:13
I really don't see the point in the PG/Mature divde anymore, people are telling me you can't swear on PG or have a sex bed but come on, people do swear and have sex beds on PG and it's no big deal because hardly anyone notices.
Ceera Murakami
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06-25-2009 12:16
From: Osprey Therian
I'd like it if all mainland PG was turned into Mature. PG seems worthless. I can see a business using that rating on a private region, but why would a university? That seems counter to everything one associates with universities.

Of the two universities I helped build sites for in SL, one is rated Mature, bacause it is their Health and Human Services division, and they can't teach many of their subjects under the restrictions in a PG sim.

The other University is PG, but is a Continuing Education department. They don't apparently plan to be teaching subjects there that would require a higher rating.

But both universiities opted for Private sims. Neither had any interest in establishing a Mainland site.
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Milla Janick
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Join date: 2 Jan 2008
Posts: 3,075
06-25-2009 12:19
From: Osprey Therian
It seems to refer to "publicly promoted adult activities or content" not private and unadvertised places.

The KB definitions only say publicly promoted and advertised adult content has to be in an adult region. Nowhere does it say that content is acceptable in private, and the CS explicitly states such content is not permitted on PG or Mature rated mainland.
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Osprey Therian
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06-25-2009 12:21
From: Ceera Murakami
But what is in the CS makes NO mention of publicly advertizing or promoting. It says that if the maturity ratings would call it Adult, it IS NOT PERMITTED on the mainland.


As I interpret it, the things defined as "Adult" by the Maturity Definition (not by any other definition, but by that definition alone) are to be confined to Zindra. The definition refers to advertising and public promotion.
Ceka Cianci
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Join date: 31 Jul 2006
Posts: 4,489
06-25-2009 12:21
from reading it .even on zindra it is to be contained inside sims/regions designated adult rating..again the continent is not adult content free for all.
only the sims/regions that decide to go adult content and the only place those can be are private sims/regions estates
or zindra sims/regions.. ;)


Adult Regions, Groups, and Listings
Second Life is an adult community, but 'Adult' content, activity and communication are not permitted on the Second Life 'mainland.' Such material is permitted on private regions, or on the Adult Continent, Zindra. In either case, any Adult content, activity, or communication, that falls under our Adult Maturity Definition must be on regions designated as 'Adult,' and will be filtered from non-verified accounts. Other regions may be designated as either 'Mature' or 'PG.' For more information on how to designate land, events, groups, and classified listings, please carefully read the 'Maturity Definitions.'
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Tod69 Talamasca
The Human Tripod ;)
Join date: 20 Sep 2005
Posts: 4,107
06-25-2009 12:25
From: Tarina Sewell
I made an alt and was at one of the info hubs and on voice there was a girl entertaining a couple men with dramatic descriptions of an adult action... everyone heard it.. Swearing and moaning and well you can imagine...


But was she good at it?? :D
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Osprey Therian
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06-25-2009 12:28
From: Ceka Cianci
from reading it .even on zindra it is to be contained inside sims/regions designated adult rating..


Are there sims on Zindra with ratings other than Adult? I haven't looked, but just assumed they are all Adult as it was advertised as the "Adult Continent."
As in:
"Many of you have been waiting patiently for the chance to explore the new adult continent known as Zindra. "
Tod69 Talamasca
The Human Tripod ;)
Join date: 20 Sep 2005
Posts: 4,107
06-25-2009 12:30
From: someone
Adult Regions, Groups, and Listings
Second Life is an adult community, but 'Adult' content, activity and communication are not permitted on the Second Life 'mainland.' Such material is permitted on private regions, or on the Adult Continent, Zindra. In either case, any Adult content, activity, or communication, that falls under our Adult Maturity Definition must be on regions designated as 'Adult,' and will be filtered from non-verified accounts. Other regions may be designated as either 'Mature' or 'PG.' For more information on how to designate land, events, groups, and classified listings, please carefully read the 'Maturity Definitions.'



Wait a sec!!!

Adult Content, ACTIVITY or COMMUNICATION???

Adult "activity" and "communication" covers many things other than sex. :cool:
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Viktoria Dovgal
Join date: 29 Jul 2007
Posts: 3,593
06-25-2009 12:31
From: Osprey Therian
As I interpret it, the things defined as "Adult" by the Maturity Definition (not by any other definition, but by that definition alone) are to be confined to Zindra. The definition refers to advertising and public promotion.

Yeah, that is the whole "trick" to understanding this, use the definitions provided by LL, not some definitions randomly grabbed from elsewhere.
Milla Janick
Empress Of The Universe
Join date: 2 Jan 2008
Posts: 3,075
06-25-2009 12:32
From: Tod69 Talamasca
Wait a sec!!!

Adult Content, ACTIVITY or COMMUNICATION???

Adult "activity" and "communication" covers many things other than sex. :cool:

Yeah, don't drop an f-bomb in group chat. Someone on the mainland may be listening.
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Ceka Cianci
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Join date: 31 Jul 2006
Posts: 4,489
06-25-2009 12:33
From: Osprey Therian
Are there sims on Zindra with ratings other than Adult? I haven't looked, but just assumed they are all Adult as it was advertised as the "Adult Continent."
As in:
"Many of you have been waiting patiently for the chance to explore the new adult continent known as Zindra. "

actually until they are sold and their owners set the content we won't know how many are adult or not..depends on the owner of the sim..thats how the Maturity Definitions read to me..

continent is not the rating..just the ability to have adult content in your sim..
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Join date: 17 Nov 2007
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06-25-2009 12:35
From: Tod69 Talamasca
Wait a sec!!!

Adult Content, ACTIVITY or COMMUNICATION???

Adult "activity" and "communication" covers many things other than sex. :cool:
What's you're favorite kind of cookie? =^-^=

Glad to see SOMEONE gets it. (^_^)y
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