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Gabriele Graves
Always and Forever, FULL
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09-23-2008 16:10
I have not posted much in this thread but I would like to say I really like over there and I still really like here too.

There are many really nice people who are here and don't go over there though and that is one of the reasons I return again and again. Another reason is that the technical forums here are excellent and there is a history of wealth in the archives that the other place could not possibly have.

However I am concerned by the state of things here and where things are going. Some of the things that are allowed to happen here are far more serious than some of the stuff that gets moderated and that in my opinon is skewed. You just don't know when the moderation is going to come down on you and for what in some cases. Reported posts don't seem to be acted upon and are not acknowledged as even been looked at.
I also don't like the policy of an inworld ban if you get a ban here, I know that if you play nice it probably will not happen, but it could and that in itself does not sit well with me.

So far over there there has been a good consistency of policy that I have observed at least. I am relatively new over there still and maybe have missed the major injustices, forumquakes etc. and I can only go by my experiences but so far it *feels* like there is less uncertainty. I know I feel much better knowing a ban there is just a ban there.
General discussion has its own forum and is encouraged rather than done illicitly with the knowledge that is really isn't playing by the rules and could be stymied at any time. General discussion is an important forum ability in my opinion.
I love the extra doodads you get over there too when posting :)
The forum software here definitely needs changing to something better, even the search is very funky.
Many of the people over here are also over there which is wonderful :)
3Ring Binder
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09-23-2008 16:14
From: Briana Dawson
If anyone wants that chat, I'll give it up to along with the nasty notecard she sent me afterwards.

why do you insist on perpetuating such nasty behavior? you are a mean person. now i remember why i had you on ignore here.. you are one of those snatches who ganged up on Rha here and then me over there, and you are a meanie.
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Karl Herber
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Join date: 23 Jun 2006
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09-23-2008 16:35
From: Beathag McMahon
This amazes me.
I walked in there, a complete n00b to forums. I was taken in and supported. I post about SL topics when I feel I have something to add to the conversation, and enjoy the camaraderie when I don't - including having fun in some fo the non-SL forums. I think it's safe to say that I'm pretty well-liked over there.
Of course the fact that I am generally polite to everyone, don't troll, and don't insult people might have something to do with it.


*clicks the Agree button*

I have more r less abandoned the official forums here in favour of "the one over the street", for many different reasons. The main reason being that I have found the people there to be most welcoming, friendly and supportive. Agreed that I am also generally polite, friendly and non-trollish.

Which basically sums up the situation quite simply - if you join a forum you get back what you give to it. Act like a fool and you'll be treated like you are one. Act friendly and people will be friendly in return. There's no need to belong to any secret clique (I certainly am part of no such thing) and yet I've been made to feel very welcome there.

Every forum has it's own feel and atmosphere. Yes the other one has more off-topic content but no-one forces you to read the off-topic forum if you don't want to (I avoid without fail the Politics one and will continue to avoid it at least until the US election is over).

I wonder how many people that have had a negative experience of any forum, have done so because they entered with a negative attitude.
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Ann Launay
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09-23-2008 16:37
From: Brenda Connolly
Oh Please don't encourage anyone to post more of those goddamned things! I beg you! *shakes fist*

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Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.
Randoym Randt
SL2RLlove.blogspot.com
Join date: 2 Sep 2007
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09-23-2008 16:41
From: 3Ring Binder
why do you insist on perpetuating such nasty behavior? you are a mean person. now i remember why i had you on ignore here.. you are one of those snatches who ganged up on Rha here and then me over there, and you are a meanie.


In my very first SLU posting, I made a boo-boo in location and tone with my post, and the ONLY person of the fifteen or so who replied/pointed this out/kneed me a bit for it, who actually was flat out rude and mean...and to top it off *completely* wrong about what she said...was Brianna. Needless to say I stuck with SLU anyhow, and managed to avoid her (except once, I think).

Later on I asked her SL partner in a SLU thread about "what it was that made them tick" because both of them seemingly were doing things in SL (such as being partnered as two women) that indicated they should be more liberal about other people's personal choices and preferences, but they weren't. I was seriously asking...I couldn't understand why the "do as I say, not as I do" routine...

Long story short, it was in that thread that Brianna's partner originally got banned from SLU for repeatedly (over time) accusing (a RL nurse) of being pro-abortion (and had to many others as well) as opposed to pro-choice. Insisting they were basically, bad bad people...out to kill babies...that kinda thinking (my wording tho).

Heh. Maybe our problem at SLU is that we actually do talk about things that matter. More than once. In fact, a lot.

So if there *were* an agree button here, I'd smash that sucker in on what you are saying. She was mean to me, right out of the shoot. And I never did forget that, although I've forgotten a million snarky remarks others have made...

Seems I felt the intent was very different in Bri's case. I guess it's not just me. :rolleyes:
Karl Herber
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Join date: 23 Jun 2006
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09-23-2008 16:49
From: Baloo Uriza
Mailing lists would have been a far better answer than this forum... after all, most people know how to use a mail client, but not everybody wants yet another login and have to learn yet another half-retarded, barely usable forum environment... email gives you the functionality flexibility to filter and highlight, plus you can read a mailing list while offline on the train, etc. Try that with a forum...


YES!

I would LOVE to find an active mail list for SL residents. I'm just old-school I guess, and totally agree with this. But the only mail list I ever found gets only 1 post a month and that's just a reminder notice of how to post. I live in hope that someone else ever reads the darn thing.

If anyone else knows of an active SL mailing list please let me know?
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09-23-2008 16:51
From: Brenda Connolly
LOG OFF NOW!!!!


Hey, give me *some* credit. At least I didn't say, "group think!"
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3Ring Binder
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09-23-2008 16:51
From: Randoym Randt
So if there *were* an agree button here, I'd smash that sucker in on what you are saying. She was mean to me, right out of the shoot. And I never did forget that, although I've forgotten a million snarky remarks others have made...

well i appreciate someone understanding my perspective, and i'm sorry you got off on the wrong foot and were treated cruelly.

i want to be clear that i'm not keen on going on some "let's bash Briana" tangent now... i don't like that gang-attack approach. it's very nasty and unnecessary. so please don't misunderstand my intention... i just want her to shut up about someone else's private lovefest already. it's none of her business anyway, and i feel it's just revenege for being rejected (which sucks when it happens to ANYONE)...

bullys bully because they were bullied. it's a viscious cycle. i'd like to see her break the cycle and reform. i'm open minded. but it's not up to me, and i don't intend to become part of the problem.

i sincerely hope things have worked out for you 'over there' by now, Randoym, since many peeps seem to think it's a delightful experience.
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Randoym Randt
SL2RLlove.blogspot.com
Join date: 2 Sep 2007
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09-23-2008 16:52
From: Karl Herber
YES!

I would LOVE to find an active mail list for SL residents. I'm just old-school I guess, and totally agree with this. But the only mail list I ever found gets only 1 post a month and that's just a reminder notice of how to post. I live in hope that someone else ever reads the darn thing.

If anyone else knows of an active SL mailing list please let me know?


https://lists.secondlife.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo

enjoy
Kyllie Wylie
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Join date: 7 Mar 2008
Posts: 489
09-23-2008 17:14
At risk of showing off my newbieishness I take it SLU is not St.Louis University....

Second Life is obviously the first two words, but U = Unlimited? Ultra?

whats the url to this "other side of the street" ?
Randoym Randt
SL2RLlove.blogspot.com
Join date: 2 Sep 2007
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09-23-2008 17:16
From: 3Ring Binder
well i appreciate someone understanding my perspective, and i'm sorry you got off on the wrong foot and were treated cruelly.

i want to be clear that i'm not keen on going on some "let's bash Briana" tangent now... i don't like that gang-attack approach. it's very nasty and unnecessary. so please don't misunderstand my intention... i just want her to shut up about someone else's private lovefest already. it's none of her business anyway, and i feel it's just revenege for being rejected (which sucks when it happens to ANYONE)...

bullys bully because they were bullied. it's a viscious cycle. i'd like to see her break the cycle and reform. i'm open minded. but it's not up to me, and i don't intend to become part of the problem.

i sincerely hope things have worked out for you 'over there' by now, Randoym, since many peeps seem to think it's a delightful experience.


Yes thanks...I do like my time over there.

If I were actually bashing Bri, my word choice would have been much different....coz I did bash back when she went after me

here...up until I said "smashing the agree" button, what I'm saying is just factual...it's what happened...

...I had no contact with her or reason to have issues with her at that point...I was fresh and n00by!

and YUS...Agreed on all points. :o

(I think it is, however, important to consider 'source reliability' when judging how 'fair' a person's ban is...) :rolleyes:
Randoym Randt
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09-23-2008 17:16
From: Kyllie Wylie
At risk of showing off my newbieishness I take it SLU is not St.Louis University....

Second Life is obviously the first two words, but U = Unlimited? Ultra?

whats the url to this "other side of the street" ?


"Universe"

but the name will be changing I believe.
Gabriele Graves
Always and Forever, FULL
Join date: 23 Apr 2007
Posts: 6,205
09-23-2008 17:17
From: Kyllie Wylie
At risk of showing off my newbieishness I take it SLU is not St.Louis University....

Second Life is obviously the first two words, but U = Unlimited? Ultra?

whats the url to this "other side of the street" ?
SLUniverse :) and the url is sluniverse.com
Cee Edman
The Dude Abides
Join date: 2 Oct 2007
Posts: 283
09-23-2008 17:31
From: RemacuTetigisti Quandry


I don't see how this "my team is better than your team" discussion helps anything. All it's doing is promoting "bad blood" between the members of both forums.

--- Rema


Right! A pax on both your houses!
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3Ring Binder
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09-23-2008 17:33
From: Randoym Randt
Yes thanks...I do like my time over there.

If I were actually bashing Bri, my word choice would have been much different....coz I did bash back when she went after me

here...up until I said "smashing the agree" button, what I'm saying is just factual...it's what happened...

...I had no contact with her or reason to have issues with her at that point...I was fresh and n00by!

and YUS...Agreed on all points. :o

(I think it is, however, important to consider 'source reliability' when judging how 'fair' a person's ban is...) :rolleyes:

so we be cool then. :cool: i like your style.
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stpaulsub Clio
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09-23-2008 17:42
This was my forum home, it was a big part of my SL community, when it closed i felt ( and still feel) that i lost a great part of my SL i rarely post here anymore..well because there doesn't seem to be much point but i have never found, and doubt i ever will find anyplace that i felt as comfortable
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Nick Ferraris
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Join date: 19 Jun 2008
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09-23-2008 19:15
From: Jerboa Haystack
Yeah...I've been hopping back and forth since signing up. I see all the same names in this thread that I see all over the place over there.


That's because they're camped 24/7 between these forums and don't play Second Life! :)
Brenda Connolly
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09-23-2008 19:22
From: Nick Ferraris
That's because they're camped 24/7 between these forums and don't play Second Life! :)

It's actually 23/6. Union Rules.
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Briana Dawson
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09-23-2008 20:15
From: 3Ring Binder
why do you insist on perpetuating such nasty behavior? you are a mean person. now i remember why i had you on ignore here.. you are one of those snatches who ganged up on Rha here and then me over there, and you are a meanie.

I'm a snatch?

Ganged up on you? What are you talking about? I have no idea who you are, anyone can peruse my posting history there and will not find any such behavior that you are talking about.
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Briana Dawson
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09-23-2008 20:20
From: Randoym Randt
In my very first SLU posting, I made a boo-boo in location and tone with my post, and the ONLY person of the fifteen or so who replied/pointed this out/kneed me a bit for it, who actually was flat out rude and mean...and to top it off *completely* wrong about what she said...was Brianna. Needless to say I stuck with SLU anyhow, and managed to avoid her (except once, I think).

Later on I asked her SL partner in a SLU thread about "what it was that made them tick" because both of them seemingly were doing things in SL (such as being partnered as two women) that indicated they should be more liberal about other people's personal choices and preferences, but they weren't. I was seriously asking...I couldn't understand why the "do as I say, not as I do" routine...

Long story short, it was in that thread that Brianna's partner originally got banned from SLU for repeatedly (over time) accusing (a RL nurse) of being pro-abortion (and had to many others as well) as opposed to pro-choice. Insisting they were basically, bad bad people...out to kill babies...that kinda thinking (my wording tho).

Heh. Maybe our problem at SLU is that we actually do talk about things that matter. More than once. In fact, a lot.

So if there *were* an agree button here, I'd smash that sucker in on what you are saying. She was mean to me, right out of the shoot. And I never did forget that, although I've forgotten a million snarky remarks others have made...

Seems I felt the intent was very different in Bri's case. I guess it's not just me. :rolleyes:



I am sorry but you are manufacturing a falsehood.

Here is your first post ever on SLU: http://www.sluniverse.com/php/vb/sl-web-sites/13727-can-second-life-love-go.html

Go there read what transpired. What you just said about me was an outright lie and gross exaggeration and basic character assassination. Your first post there was a advert for your forum and 4 people groaned it, I was one of them, you took A LOT of flack in that thread and i was the least of your worries.

Please feel free to re-read it and update your remarks or at least post a quote of what i said to you that you found assaulting and "cruel" as 3ring labeled your treatment.

It really is pretty low when people make accusations about what someone said and then fail to post the proof to back up the slander.
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Briana Dawson
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09-23-2008 20:24
From: Randoym Randt
Yes thanks...I do like my time over there.

If I were actually bashing Bri, my word choice would have been much different....coz I did bash back when she went after me


Yes, you were bashing me in your post with your accusations about my character and how i treated you.

http://www.sluniverse.com/php/vb/sl-web-sites/13727-can-second-life-love-go.html

Where in there are the things you claim i did to you? Can you please post the references from that thread here? That thread IS your first post there that you claim i came after you in. And what i see is A LOT of different people saying things to you. And i hardly said anything that makes me look as you are trying to paint me.
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Nina Stepford
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09-23-2008 20:25
well if that was a cruel attack i guess random need to rethink all her mates over the road.


par for the course.
From: Briana Dawson

It really is pretty low when people make accusations about what someone said and then fail to post the proof to back up the slander.
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Randoym Randt
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09-23-2008 20:34
From: Briana Dawson
Yes, you were bashing me in your post with your accusations about my character and how i treated you.

http://www.sluniverse.com/php/vb/sl-web-sites/13727-can-second-life-love-go.html

Where in there are the things you claim i did to you? Can you please post the references from that thread here? That thread IS your first post there that you claim i came after you in. And what i see is A LOT of different people saying things to you. And i hardly said anything that makes me look as you are trying to paint me.


Briana, you started off by accusing me of being 'stupid'...

That was your first statement to me. Nobody else said anything about ME, just about my post. Get the difference? Probably not...sigh...

I went back later and added my comments (check the edit date) because it pissed me off that much that someone I didn't know claimed to know ANYTHING about my intelligence...nobody else (as i already said) was rude to me personally. JUST YOU.
Briana Dawson
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09-23-2008 20:51
From: Randoym Randt
Briana, you started off by accusing me of being 'stupid'...

That was your first statement to me. Nobody else said anything about ME, just about my post. Get the difference? Probably not...sigh...

I went back later and added my comments (check the edit date) because it pissed me off that much that someone I didn't know claimed to know ANYTHING about my intelligence...nobody else (as i already said) was rude to me personally. JUST YOU.


Please post where i called you stupid.

I am not seeing it in that thread.

And i am getting the uneasy feeling that context is being manipulated here...

Thanks.
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Briana Dawson
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09-23-2008 20:56
In fact, i see on post #4 you make the first comment AT someone because they told you about your post, and i see that i used your same tactic against you.

You really have a different perspective on things.

From what it looks like, everyone jumped you, and one person asked you if you were insulting them for posting the remark you made at them regarding their signature which is the exact same post i made to you in return.

Why are you coming in here, singling me out, and not being truthful about the issue.

The thread is there for all to read and it goes nothing like you claimed. You were jumped for coming there and as someone else said 'making your first post in a forum and advertisement and in the wrong section'.

Nice slander job though which will work for anyone that does not read that link.
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