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Bradley Bracken
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03-14-2008 12:51
I think Philip should step down entirely. Have Jumpy focus on the grid and Ricardo run the company. Can you imagine all the grumpy blog posts?
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Rebecca Proudhon
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03-14-2008 12:52
From: Sunni Jewell
Now, granted, I'm not an expert in big business, but I can't see this as anything but a positive thing....as long as they're careful in who they select. !



Yes.

I hope there is some serious big name and profound acumen brought in.
Derbor Torok
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03-14-2008 12:59
From: Rebecca Proudhon
Yes.

I hope there is some serious big name and profound acumen brought in.


I think the need for L.L. right now is someone who can make tough choices and force a little discipline on the troops. Its clear that this process they are on - remodeling the plane while its flying 30,000 ft up in the air - is going to be tough. In my humble opinion, they are not making progress fast enough, the competition is starting to solidify, the longer it takes them to get the basics sorted out the higher risk they have for the long term..

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Desmond Shang
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03-14-2008 13:05
It's the Obi-Wan-Kenobi move!

It only LOOKS like he's a goner. Instead, he's gonna be this mystical guy that will reappear at critical moments to rebels and losers, thus saving the universe and bringing balance to the Force.

Back at the war we've got the usual Lindens all flying around trying to save the world for humans, good robots and furries...



I'm taking this topic seriously! Honest!!! Just doesn't seem much in the way of news to me, because they kinda work as an executive team anyway.

Someone's gonna step up, not in, I think. So they have to announce this stuff, it's good for some drama for a week and then it's back to prim-wrangling for everybody.
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Sunni Jewell
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03-14-2008 13:05
From: Derbor Torok
I think the need for L.L. right now is someone who can make tough choices and force a little discipline on the troops. Its clear that this process they are on - remodeling the plane while its flying 30,000 ft up in the air - is going to be tough. In my humble opinion, they are not making progress fast enough, the competition is starting to solidify, the longer it takes them to get the basics sorted out the higher risk they have for the long term..

.d


Exactly. It's why I think they need a micro manager. Philips business philosophy worked when LL was a "smallish" company. However, even though growth has slowed, it IS still growing and the same business philosophy just doesn't work when a company gets to a certain size with a large customer base.
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Dagmar Heideman
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03-14-2008 13:07
From: Darien Caldwell
We will know 6 months to a year from now. It's much to early to say, until the new CEO is named, and both his past track record, and what he does with Linden Lab can be examined. I hope Phillip makes a good choice. :)
It wont be Philip's choice to make alone. Typically it will be an executive search committee but Philip will almost certainly be sitting on it. It's not uncommon for such committees to take several months to select a candidate to recommend to the board of directors so it may be quite a while before we here any announcements of a changing of the guard.
Sunni Jewell
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03-14-2008 13:07
From: Desmond Shang
It's the Obi-Wan-Kenobi move!

It only LOOKS like he's a goner. Instead, he's gonna be this mystical guy that will reappear at critical moments to rebels and losers, thus saving the universe and bringing balance to the Force.

Back at the war we've got the usual Lindens all flying around trying to save the world for humans, good robots and furries...



I'm taking this topic seriously! Honest!!! Just doesn't seem much in the way of news to me, because they kinda work as an executive team anyway.

Someone's gonna step up, not in, I think. So they have to announce this stuff, it's good for some drama for a week and then it's back to prim-wrangling for everybody.


Here's our voice of reason. Desmond, I kind of look at you at the "daddy" of the forums. (and no.....not in a "who's your daddy?" kind of way for all your dirty minded people....lol) Just that some people, though far from everyone, gets worried or uptight, and you step in with the words of wisdom.

Hope I didn't insult you by saying you were the "daddy"....lol

P.S. Ohhhhh....great Friday song on the radio right now....Pour some sugar on me! Sorry..had to share that.
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Sunni Jewell
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03-14-2008 13:08
From: Desmond Shang
It's the Obi-Wan-Kenobi move!

It only LOOKS like he's a goner. Instead, he's gonna be this mystical guy that will reappear at critical moments to rebels and losers, thus saving the universe and bringing balance to the Force.

Back at the war we've got the usual Lindens all flying around trying to save the world for humans, good robots and furries...



I'm taking this topic seriously! Honest!!! Just doesn't seem much in the way of news to me, because they kinda work as an executive team anyway.

Someone's gonna step up, not in, I think. So they have to announce this stuff, it's good for some drama for a week and then it's back to prim-wrangling for everybody.


Here's our voice of reason. Desmond, I kind of look at you at the "daddy" of the forums. (and no.....not in a "who's your daddy?" kind of way for all your dirty minded people....lol) Just that some people, though far from everyone, get worried or uptight, and you step in with the words of wisdom.

Hope I didn't insult you by saying you were the "daddy"....lol

P.S. Ohhhhh....great Friday song on the radio right now....Pour some sugar on me! Sorry..had to share that.

Edit: Sorry for the double post...didn't realize it was going to do that.
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Derbor Torok
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03-14-2008 13:10
From: Sunni Jewell
Exactly. It's why I think they need a micro manager. Philips business philosophy worked when LL was a "smallish" company. However, even though growth has slowed, it IS still growing and the same business philosophy just doesn't work when a company gets to a certain size with a large customer base.


Ugh, micro managers are not usually successful. I think someone who can build the right management team and be tough enough to set clear objectives, force tough decisions and hold people accountable would do much better.

.d
Caroline Ra
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03-14-2008 13:10
From: Rebecca Proudhon
Time for wild speculation.....Edgar Miles Bronfman, Jr. ? I think he has some time on his hands.

Richard Branson?--he doesnt need time.

Bill Gates?--maybe he's gotten bored of philanthropy.

Apple has some corporate rumors happening today................


Steve Ballmer? cause he laughed at the iphone?

The Activision merger with Vivendi Games (Blizzard,) might be freeing someone up...


Richard Branson is a complete and utter tosser of the 1st water, I wouldnt even trust him with my Grannys biscuit box collection.
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03-14-2008 13:13
From: Sunni Jewell
Here's our voice of reason. Desmond, I kind of look at you at the "daddy" of the forums. (and no.....not in a "who's your daddy?" kind of way for all your dirty minded people....lol)


I really can't imagine Desmond staring someone menacingly in the eye and saying "Whose The Daddy?"

....oh you don't mean it in that way either!
Rebecca Proudhon
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03-14-2008 13:14
From: Caroline Ra
Richard Branson is a complete and utter tosser of the 1st water, I wouldnt even trust him with my Grannys biscuit box collection.


Ya an utter failure.:D
Lindal Kidd
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03-14-2008 13:22
From: Trout Recreant
There you go, Chris. Question answered. Apparently Oryx wants to see it.


So do I. I think a rhinestone codpiece would really set off your hair.

*sigh* The hair on his HEAD. You people all have dirty minds.
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Caroline Ra
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03-14-2008 13:23
From: Rebecca Proudhon
Ya an utter failure.:D


You travelled on anything with the name virgin on it lately?
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Bradley Bracken
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03-14-2008 13:26
From: Derbor Torok
Ugh, micro managers are not usually successful. I think someone who can build the right management team and be tough enough to set clear objectives, force tough decisions and hold people accountable would do much better.

.d


I agree. I'm shocked that people are looking for micro managers. That is what I think we had and it's the worse thing for a company. I considered myself a very successful manager and I had no clue how to do half of what my managers did. I only made sure it was done.

A smart person realizes they can't know everything and surrounds themselves with the right people to get things done.
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Rebecca Proudhon
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03-14-2008 13:31
From: Caroline Ra
You travelled on anything with the name virgin on it lately?


No, I don't get on planes anymore regardless of name. That list I started wasn't a list of my faves, I had to add some irony.
Orfeu Miles
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03-14-2008 13:36
While this seems a natural step in the evolution of a company, rather than ZOMG-BBQ moment.

It does seem like a good time to say "Thanks Phil", if Seond Life adds the technical implementation to the audacity of vision you have shown... then we will all one day, be proud to have been among the first citizens here.

Kudos for a magnificent achievement thus far.
Marianne McCann
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03-14-2008 13:42
From: Jeska Linden
Heh, sorry, I've been hanging out in Texas all week for sxsw and it is apparently rubbing off on me. ;)


Happens to me every time I'm in the southern states.

Mari
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03-14-2008 13:44
From: Bree Giffen
I wonder what the new CEO's name will be in-world.


Fixa Linden?
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03-14-2008 13:45
From: Desmond Shang
It's the Obi-Wan-Kenobi move!

It only LOOKS like he's a goner. Instead, he's gonna be this mystical guy that will reappear at critical moments to rebels and losers, thus saving the universe and bringing balance to the Force.

Back at the war we've got the usual Lindens all flying around trying to save the world for humans, good robots and furries...



I'm taking this topic seriously! Honest!!! Just doesn't seem much in the way of news to me, because they kinda work as an executive team anyway.

Someone's gonna step up, not in, I think. So they have to announce this stuff, it's good for some drama for a week and then it's back to prim-wrangling for everybody.



“Legally, the board hires and fires CEOs,” he (Kapor) added. “Process-wise, this is going to have be someone Philip is incredibly enthusiastic about.”
http://secondlife.reuters.com/stories/2008/03/14/exclusive-rosedale-to-step-down-as-linden-lab-ceo/
Rebecca Proudhon
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03-14-2008 13:51
From: Sling Trebuchet
“ “Process-wise, this is going to have be someone Philip is incredibly enthusiastic about.”
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Oh no not Obama.

Philip: Can we get you a pillow? Are you comforatable?
Nika Talaj
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03-14-2008 13:57
From: Desmond Shang
Someone's gonna step up, not in, I think.
Really? That would surprise me. I would think that if they were going with someone internal, it would have been handled with less fanfare. In such cases, there is no need really to announce much of anything. Just move the internal person into some sort of COO position and let them take over doing things. Announce them as CEO after their operational authority is already established.

I think the hitech chattering class (analysts and journalists) would be very disappointed to see an internally recruited CEO as well ... not, of course, that any company is obligated to do anything to please them. :D

Edit: the only internal candidate that seems an obvious choice to get operational improvements would be Joe Miller, yes? I don't know much about him, but I do have the sense that his hands are full already.
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03-14-2008 13:59
From: Bradley Bracken
I agree. I'm shocked that people are looking for micro managers. That is what I think we had and it's the worse thing for a company. I considered myself a very successful manager and I had no clue how to do half of what my managers did. I only made sure it was done.

A smart person realizes they can't know everything and surrounds themselves with the right people to get things done.


I think I know where people are coming from when thinking a more forceful management style would be a good thing for LL at this point. Philip's laid back style doesn't scale well to customer and investor expectations. I really think they need a CEO who'll grasp the tech enough not to push too hard, but who'll push specific goals and make sure they're carried out, forcefully if necessary. That means if they issue a press release about a new feature (virtual puppeteering, built in animation keyframing, etc) or a new licensed tech (speedtree) it had better see the light of day before people start asking "hey, whatever happened to..." Things haven't been getting done.
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Conifer Dada
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03-14-2008 14:12
I nearly started another thread titled 'Rosedale steps down to move up'.

Anyway, I for one am grateful for everything he's done to give us a Second Life and wish him well in his new role as, well........the boss of SL, which is what I thought he was before!
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03-14-2008 14:25
From: Dagmar Heideman
It wont be Philip's choice to make alone. Typically it will be an executive search committee but Philip will almost certainly be sitting on it. It's not uncommon for such committees to take several months to select a candidate to recommend to the board of directors so it may be quite a while before we here any announcements of a changing of the guard.


Yes, I'm quite aware of how the process works, having been in the corporate world for decades. But if you think the CEO doesn't have a *big* say who is selected, especially in a private company like LL, you are mistaken. :) At one large corporation I worked at, the new CEO and the outgoing CEO worked side by side for nearly a year before the actual transition took place. The outgoing CEO went to the board, just as described in this scenario. Not to be negative, but in the case I experienced, the new CEO went on to run the company into the ground, and the old CEO had to step back into save it (I guess that's the Obi-Wan move). The company recovered to some extent, however despite the obvious care and attention which went into selecting the new CEO, it was a failure. Nothing is ever a sure thing.
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