short AV=child allegation..has the witchhunt truly begun?

Could be.................. strange how llabs has refered ageplay to be not allowed. But then let images on japanese web site post images like this. The idea and setup ( the school building and land it sits on) of said company was about a japanese grade school system and this boy was part of it. As I said earlier my child has used the services and products this company produces for languge schooling. But after seeing that the said company used photos like this. ( KNOWING that SL is full of Mature content ) I will nolong suport said company. It gives off the wrong impression about the japanese schooling system and can well.........lead to a possible actions like what happen withthe german news about ageplay and porn within sl. I am a parent, my child deals withthe said company and they are now using sl as their learning platform? shakeshead....I am a parent i worry too.

Could be.................. strange how llabs has refered ageplay to be not allowed. But then let images on japanese web site post images like this. The idea and setup ( the school building and land it sits on) of said company was about a japanese grade school system and this boy was part of it. As I said earlier my child has used the services and products this company produces for languge schooling. But after seeing that the said company used photos like this. ( KNOWING that SL is full of Mature content ) I will nolong suport said company. It gives off the wrong impression about the japanese schooling system and can well.........lead to a possible actions like what happen withthe german news about ageplay and porn within sl. I am a parent, my child deals withthe said company and they are now using sl as their learning platform? shakeshead....I am a parent i worry too.

I think Usagi is saying that boy avatar is REALLY a child! Allowed in SL for educational purposes! But that can't be because if a company was doing that they... or their customers... would be breaking the TOS. Unless there's a different TOS for companies and Japanese users.

daniel linden (of 'dob your neighbour' fame) already expressed a desire to merge the two grids, and everything thats happening is suggesting that is going to take place.
its quite possible that this school is aware of that and has something in place already.
in fact, i think something like this has already been done before.

the german thing involved an 'adult av' having SEX with a 'child av'.
far different that some japanese schoolkids taking lessons in a sl classroom.
as for 'images like this' its just some kid sitting there doing nothing at all. not even a sexy pose or anything.
i dont get it? kids are sexualised for commercial purposes far more irl than in this pic.

You can view this throught in maybe differ directions. I am viewing this as a parent in Japan with a child. This image and how others view japanese school as well.......you see the manga how its viewed right? This company i am refering to is a large learning center where many go to learn. But why include child Avies? why not use a adult class room instead of a grade school setting? I tell you because thats what sells! think about it under 18 in school girls and boys outfits. Please will see it as a possible sexual role play of adults playing sexualy active avies.......Do you really think they wil stay in that sim? Or go out and make money with their under age avies? Or worse........

Well its late here and i need to work in morning........I know when i see this thread again it wil be closed. My concern of this whole mess is how llabs is failing to control its advertizers and allowing the tacky images like this. If they did not post this as a gamers possible role play, but instead used adults " say OL office ladies or Business meaning wanting to provide their english. I would say wonderful. But as a parent and user of "Said" companies products and service only leads me to believe this tacky way to promoto a high SL population was not needed.

Have a good Night/or day where ever you are.

Usagi

You can view this throught in maybe differ directions. I am viewing this as a parent in Japan with a child. This image and how others view japanese school as well.......you see the manga how its viewed right? This company i am refering to is a large learning center where many go to learn. But why include child Avies? why not use a adult class room instead of a grade school setting? I tell you because thats what sells! think about it under 18 in school girls and boys outfits. Please will see it as a possible sexual role play of adults playing sexualy active avies.......Do you really think they wil stay in that sim? Or go out and make money with their under age avies? Or worse........

Well its late here and i need to work in morning........I know when i see this thread again it wil be closed. My concern of this whole mess is how llabs is failing to control its advertizers and allowing the tacky images like this. If they did not post this as a gamers possible role play, but instead used adults " say OL office ladies or Business meaning wanting to provide their english. I would say wonderful. But as a parent and user of "Said" companies products and service only leads me to believe this tacky way to promoto a high SL population was not needed.

Have a good Night/or day where ever you are.

Usagi

god what did that even have to do with the topic of this thread - all that for zero pay off and more freaking out over nothing

but now that we are on the topic -

the day they let real children use the same grid as adults is the day im out of here for real. There is absolutely NO WAY to make a grid safe enough for real children to share with adults . . anyone here ever played wow? i didnt like that either . . supposed to be what was it 13 plus and you had young children even as young as 8 years old playing with grown adults . . but ok nevermind even that now think of kids like that in sl which is FULL of sex so full of sex everywhere . . youre not horrified? you should be Thats where the real danger would be. if i had a kid that age there is no wayyyyyyyyyy i would ever let them in a grid with adults. even if they seperated the mature content from pg areas you still have a general atmosphere of anything goes . . and anything goes sexually . . no its a very bad bad idea and doing it is like setting a perfect playground for real pedophilia . . worse then myspace i promise . . id like to see Usagi and all the witchhunters show some concern for this scenerio instead. Anything else is hypocrisy

/me scritches head....... "This is not on topic" hehe

Gosh! Imagine if someone had an avvie that looked like this!



How terrible, huh? It would be just horrible to think dat an adult might play such a horrible, horrible thing as an innocent child. I'm shocked an apalled!

Oh wait... dat's me.

Mari

Could be.................. strange how llabs has refered ageplay to be not allowed. But then let images on japanese web site post images like this.

The idea and setup ( the school building and land it sits on) of said company was about a japanese grade school system and this boy was part of it. As I said earlier my child has used the services and products this company produces for languge schooling. But after seeing that the said company used photos like this. ( KNOWING that SL is full of Mature content ) I will nolong suport said company. It gives off the wrong impression about the japanese schooling system and can well.........lead to a possible actions like what happen withthe german news about ageplay and porn within sl. I am a parent, my child deals withthe said company and they are now using sl as their learning platform? shakeshead....I am a parent i worry too.

the day they let real children use the same grid as adults is the day im out of here for real. There is absolutely NO WAY to make a grid safe enough for real children to share with adults.

If you are an educator and want to work with teens in Teen Second Life, there is the opportunity to buy a private island in Teen Second Life and participate, but you will not be able to leave that island and visit the Teen Second Life mainland. Teens from the mainland will be able to visit your private island if/when you choose, but they will be automatically informed that there are adults present.

(I'm not real sure this is all that on-topic either, but wth...) I hadn't ever paid any attention to the Teen Grid, but with this talk of educational uses, I found this:Now, when it was said that the grids would be merged, a lot of us got that all mixed up with the IDV age verification thing, but *maybe* it's more related to the SecondLife Grid initiative, and *maybe* the actual implementation will be to isolate individual educational institutions (and/or age groups?) onto their own spaces on some hypergrid, somewhat like the private islands on the Teen Grid now (but moreso)--such that the "merging" is really a technical detail and doesn't mean what we all fear it will mean. (Or maybe I'm just having a particularly Panglossian Monday.)

(I'm not real sure this is all that on-topic either, but wth...) I hadn't ever paid any attention to the Teen Grid, but with this talk of educational uses, I found this:Now, when it was said that the grids would be merged, a lot of us got that all mixed up with the IDV age verification thing, but *maybe* it's more related to the SecondLife Grid initiative, and *maybe* the actual implementation will be to isolate individual educational institutions (and/or age groups?) onto their own spaces on some hypergrid, somewhat like the private islands on the Teen Grid now (but moreso)--such that the "merging" is really a technical detail and doesn't mean what we all fear it will mean. (Or maybe I'm just having a particularly Panglossian Monday.)

You did and were quite rude about it too, IMO.

My only real issue was that Hope seemed to think that if somebody suspected her of being a child avatar, it was their problem. It later turned out that this wasn't really the case and she edited her profile (again) to make that more clear.

Like it or not, this "questionable age in adult places" problem exists and people will find it a lot easier to live with if they learn to deal with it and don't make it into somebody elses problem. If you're short enough to be confused with a child and you frequent adult places, it's safe to assume that somebody will ask you about it.

When asked, you could say "nope - I'm 18+ but short to match my RL height" and, at least at my place, that would be the end of it - everybody go back to having fun, please. Depending on how likely to be mistaken for a child you are, I might suggest or ask that you update your profile to avoid getting asked again.

Or you could say "screw you - I have rights and it's none of your damn business how old my avatar is!" If I'm the one asking and we're on my land, you're probably not going to be staying very long.

If I were interviewing somebody for a job at my place, what Hope seemed to be talking about in her OP, the way she dealt with being asked would certainly be a part of whether or not she got the job. How could it not be?

it's not always easy to judge "tone of voice" in text. however, the OP has stated several times that she was already employed, at her height, and that it was a customer who pointed it out to her boss, who then told her. she then had to adjust her height, if i read that correctly, in order to keep her job. if this was a rl situation, that would be illegal.

Ive had someone complain that my 5'2" adult proportioned AV looks like a child. Not an AR, just a comment that may cost me a job opportunity.

I read the word 'opportunity' as saying that she wasn't already employed there. Since she didn't sound happy about having her height questioned and her profile said "DEAL WITH IT" I gave her my perspective as the owner of an adult place. Show me anywhere that I said or implied that I would not hire her based on her height.

let's just agree to disagree, as we are just gonna go around and around and around.

my in world ava is about 2inches taler than my rl one due to attitudes such as yours. ...

It the days where undersized avies was ( 3 years ago) it was just a passing thought. But know a days people seems to start making issues about this.

HAHAHHAHAHAHAH can`t believe people take this issue so seriuos!

For the life of me cant understand what she is raving about this time

Actually Dan L in his infamous interview is much much clearer about the Grids Merging.

He directly implies adults and kids will mingle - Just like on WOW.