short AV=child allegation..has the witchhunt truly begun?

Yes Im 5ft 13 (sounds better then 6ft 1)in RL and I size my avi so that I feel about the right height relative to everything else in SL as I do RL, furniture etc. Equating tall females with being bimbos is yet another prejudice.

yes ......... a very big yes!

and also ....... leave the kids alone!


(and the shorter than average)

well i'm 5 foot and a few inches and most furniture makes me feel wery wery small......

having said that........... i loooooove the size of homes here

One complaint from a customer of this certain business does not a witchhunt make. Villagers with flaming torches, snatching up the kiddie avies and lynching them in trees, does. That your 'boss' decided to give you an ultimatum based upon one overly sensitive clients complaint, is merely a testament to his own wishy washy tendancies. Unless this client is his best customer and dumps hundreds of thousands into his cash register, in which case ' WEAR LONGER LEGS'. Ive known you a long time Hope, Ive never thought of you as a pre-schooler based upon your height. I think these dorks are delusional, go work for somebody else.

I will tell you something that annoys me, particularly after reading some of the later posts.

I was visiting NCI plaza recently, where an extremely short japanese child-AV was hanging around with some of the regulars there. She was dressed in incredibly sexy clothing for a child-AV, something which I decided not to pay much attention to but nonetheless found a little disturbing (I swear I have never seen a mini skirt go that high, not to mention the rest of her clothes).
But somebody else did pay attention - he commented on how 'sexy' she looked.
And the regulars came down on him like a ton of bricks, (including a nearby child-AV).

Why did this annoy me?
She *was* dressed sexily, no doubts about it. And because someone commented on this all too obvious fact he was stomped on by the (present) moral majority as a sicko and weirdo.

This worries me. Firstly that there are people out there willing to attract attention in such a way (and pretend it's all a surprise, and "oh, what a sicko!", *and* that there are people who would find this attractive.

It's much the same as the issue we face in real life. Children are being sexualised, clothing and lifestyle has changed over the years, how do we reconcile the differences in SL with those in RL? It's hard enough to deal with in an RL environment let alone a cyber one.

Meh, that's just my two Lindens worth. I think a lot depends on context in SL, it's much harder to read body language and emotion.

Seen many small avies running around pre teen and such going around sl. I did not see much of a change. As Winter said it does not make a witch hunt. Just another chapter of "Lets them use them as subjects for my PH.D reasearch paper" ( thats all you are and you dont even know it). Again some people that continue to use SL as a reseach based platform for their studies........Gesh so low life people these days on sl. Specially in that one area someone said that a preeteenjapanese was hanging around. That location alone is drama country, again its school time right? Research paper themes are needed and most be in time frame. If you blieve this BS about underage witch hunts and that laughable writing fron secondlife insider, well there is always shock tv for you to watch. Or day time drama shows.

Kokoro, I just love that ......laughed myself silly when I read it.

Anyway, getting to the point...

Speaking as a 'vertically challenged' person in RL, I'm quite tall in SL, well at least I think I am... LL or indeed anyone else have absolutely NO RIGHT to harrass an av because of height.etc. If someone wants to be a kid av then so what?? Jaysus, I think that LL or the other 'eejits' who think that because someone is not a billion feet tall is some kind of deviant should take their head from out of their bottom and take a good look around.

There are far far more worrying points to ponder...for instance. Within the search function, there are ads for teen porn, etc....hundreds of them. I typed in the word 'cosy' today, because I was looking for a particular sim that someone recommended I visit, a PG sim and the results were horrifying. Very very explicit pictures, that actually made me queasy.. beastiality etc... Maybe LL should police the classifieds instead of worrying about whether or not someone chooses to be short!!!!!

If I chose to be 4 feet tall, with big boobs and wearing a schoolgirlgirl outfit that is my business and no one elses! Why is this discussion even happening? I think because some people like they have a duty to regulate other people's behaviour is why.

Jaye, first of all meh isn't a word and secondly, why so much attention to other's behaviour?

This just makes me laugh! Please how dum do you think people are? Please that location alone is a joke these days. Many of BS rumors and action much like the ageplay BS writting but the secondlife inside writer hangout in that NCI area. If these actions are not setups by said writer and or friends of her. I wouldnt be a bit surprized........Again We are all test subjects for some really low and tacky people thes days.

I really need to get out more.

my in world ava is about 2inches taler than my rl one due to attitudes such as yours. this is a genuine issue. oh and you forgot to add to that list of yours that they only run that risk if there is sexual activity involved or the sim is known for it. ie if you run an escort service and or whorehouse. she(OP) shouldnt have to explain to anyone how old she is nor should she have to add any additional info because some narrow minded jackamole cant tell the diff between a kid avie and a short adult. i feel for you and your buisness whoas, but thats not what she asked for. Her "deal with it" is correct. its not her problem that if someone looks at her they dont see a short adult ava, but a child. its not her problem if she has to stop being "herself" so to speak just to please others. its the accusers/fingerpointers issue.

and hope, its been happenign a while now, take deep breath, and roll with it. for every one who looks at you and immediatly sees a child, there's at least 50 who don't. hang in there. *huggs*

60 messages on this subject and no one has raised the question of the circumstances involved. It makes a great deal of difference whether the height/age comment arose in a sexually-explicit environment or not.

No one asked: was the OP offering herself as an escort at the time? (Just an example.)

Whether or not those with short Avs have been questioned about their apparent age might well depend on whether those avs attempt to go to sex-explicit places. If they don't, then the lack of a similar experience is not germane.

Certainly personal comments or questions about anyone's characteristics - age, race, sexuality, health, wealth or religion - under ordinary circumstances, casual social setting or just in passing, are as out-of-place and downright rude in SL as in RL.

BUT - if the situation is one of those which would raise red flags if someone underage were involved then it isn't, whether you judge by the SL "community standards" or the quite similar laws of RL.

At times I have been a she-demon, a tinie pony, a teen ager, just little ol me in jeans and yes a child av. It has been a very long time since I brought my inner child out to play, but it was sooooo much fun. When I spent a couple of months and a few hours a day going to every class at TUI over a year ago, several of us had kid avs, including an instructor. woohoo! It was a blast during the boring parts to slip into child character and start yelling "Teacher! Johnny is pulling my hair!!!!!!" etc.

No matter what form I wear on the outside, I am still just me here on the keyboard and if anyone questions the appropriateness of any of them then they can just go scr*w themselves. Then maybe they can guess by the way I cuss that I am really 50 years old.

There is nothing sexual involved in this particular business at all. I AM involved in rp on a Gorean sim, but this is a totally unrelated thing and I have never ever had anyone on a Gor sim ask me if my AV was underage, since to me its quite obvious by her shape (yes, I too have been visited by the titty fairy; quite liberally). I was dressed in a nice outfit, though perhaps its against the law for short AVs to wear clothing that has a bow in the back even on a sim that has no adult related business on it, I dunno). I have a fliptitle that reads Jarl's lil'bit..but thats a reference to her height, not her age. I reiterate, I have never pretended to be in any way shape or form anything other than a realistic height adult AV in real life.

HAHAHHAHAHAHAH can`t believe people take this issue so seriuos!

It's real bad for guys. I had to bump my av's height up to 6'2 just to keep from being called a 'midget' (I was 5'8, which is a little short for a man RL but only by 2 inches). I'm still technically short compared to many guy avs out there but now folks won't mistake me for a child av or a midget.

Still, ever since I first noticed the height ratio I've wondered two things...

1) Why SL defaults avatars to huge size so that the 'average' reads at over 6 feet even for females

and

2) Why have the numbers there at all if folks are mostly going off what's seen on the screen, not numbers (and who can really blame them as it's a virtual 3D world, not a text-heavy environment?)?

It really doesn't matter what the OP or anyone else was doing. Adults have a right to represent themselves however they want without being abuse reported when they were not doing anything but being their SL selves.

As somebody who runs a adult, transgendered-themed area, I do get that a lot. Getting called "closed minded" and such all the time, I am.

Anybody 18+, RL age and apparent avatar age, is welcome on my land if they're not there to cause trouble. If somebody looks like they might be underaged, they're going to get asked about it if their profile doesn't say anything helpful. If they give me crap for asking, they're probably not going to stay long.

How is this having a poor attitude? Or are you just assuming that I have the same attitude as somebody else that gave you a hard time and writing me off as being just like them?

Why don't mature land operators try kicking out those giant 9 foot tall male avatars that make every woman look like a teen compared to them? You know they could be doing that on purpose. The pervs.

I agree Bree. Just because many 7 foot tall people object to us normal sized people is no reason to continue this absurd witch hunt.

Here is the thing, LLABS banned ageplay. Now all of the sudden some stupid person claims she got it from a "NOTE" LLABS is doing other funning things?Please this is just too much to believe. Always look at the source of information in this case its not even worth the bother to think about it or bother with. Its al about cause conflict and how people react to given social rules. shakeshead what happen to the old ways of doing human research? Lazy kids are getting today............

This is what I meant in my original post about "if everybody was 15 feet tall.."

The numbers don't really mean much. If LL changed everything so that 1m SL was actually 7 feet RL, would you change your avatar to keep its numbers the same as your RL numbers, even if it made you a tiny, tiny avatar?

If you want to match your SL look to your RL look, I think you're better off eye-balling it and doing what looks right rather than following the numbers. That's just IMO, though.

my profile says 'payment info used', isnt that well enough?

No not if you are under 7 feet tall and wearing a schoolgirl outfit. By the way what does being normal size have to do with ageplay? No one has answered this one yet.