short AV=child allegation..has the witchhunt truly begun?

The camera angle , the lighting and the fact that the Avatar is looking the wrong direction.



As far as the bad taste in subject matter? I don't have a clue.

Actually the latest policy is pretty clear on this. No depictions of minor avatars involved in sexual activity.

That would prohibit the two teenagers (if under 1 having sex, even though both players are adults.

Hehe - ya, the overall composition is lacking. I thinkt he black nail polish is a bit goth-y, too. I like the shoulder pet, though!

Mari

meh

a n y w a y

i think all the people running around in sl foaming rabid over ageplay and small avatars and gorillas and nazis and everything else people are flipping out over well . .i think they are the PR disaster . . a bunch of mentally ill people in a virtual world who cant tell rl from pixels, who actually believe sl is like some type of gateway drug for deviant behavior that everyone needs social constraints to protect themselves from lol . .how paranoid and delusional the residents of this world are . . well i dont think that makes a very good case for sl. giggles no i really dont think so

The only thing not in good taste about that picture is that it's poorly proportioned, poorly positioned, with a bad background, stair-stepping (which may or may not be in the original), bad lighting angles, ambiguous chest lines, and so on. In other words, it's a bad picture artistically.

Oh, and including it repeatedly in replies is also in bad taste. Once is enough.

But there's nothing in bad taste about the subject matter.

Yeah, but the type of scene I describe is the sort of situation that I'd hope would prompt them to think more on the subject and refine the policy. Suppose no genitals were visible.

Hmm. I wonder if there's a market for a bed with sheets that cover the avs, with the sheets moving in ways that imply sex, but the avs stuck in the missionary position without moving, so all you can see are the heads looking at each other.

#1 There is nothing wrong with roleplaying a child AV in Second Life.

#2 There is *everything* wrong with roleplaying a child AV in sexual situations in Second Life.

Because folks naturally tend to generalize, the differences between #1 and #2 are often lost on many.

I wish it was fake..........I wish i could post the where i got it..............post a ticket to LLABS support and ask then about this photo.....I bet you get a answer. If you thought I fixed this photo you are sadly wrong......I telling the trurth about this.

You did and were quite rude about it too, IMO.

My only real issue was that Hope seemed to think that if somebody suspected her of being a child avatar, it was their problem. It later turned out that this wasn't really the case and she edited her profile (again) to make that more clear.

Like it or not, this "questionable age in adult places" problem exists and people will find it a lot easier to live with if they learn to deal with it and don't make it into somebody elses problem. If you're short enough to be confused with a child and you frequent adult places, it's safe to assume that somebody will ask you about it.

When asked, you could say "nope - I'm 18+ but short to match my RL height" and, at least at my place, that would be the end of it - everybody go back to having fun, please. Depending on how likely to be mistaken for a child you are, I might suggest or ask that you update your profile to avoid getting asked again.

Or you could say "screw you - I have rights and it's none of your damn business how old my avatar is!" If I'm the one asking and we're on my land, you're probably not going to be staying very long.

If I were interviewing somebody for a job at my place, what Hope seemed to be talking about in her OP, the way she dealt with being asked would certainly be a part of whether or not she got the job. How could it not be?

oh I have desided that i am on a diet......

usagi i have read all your posts on this matter and seen the pic... im not sure what you upset about? is it the photo? or is it that sl will be used as some sort of educational tool for children?
i dont understand.

This is totally true, but in fact it doesn't make a very good case for RL either. This particular witch-hunt began before SL existed, and one can easily see where the emotions come from that fuel the flames. And after they've burnt enough "witches"--rightly- or wrongly-accused, it's easy to see where the paranoia comes from, too. Really, it would be miraculous if this RL hysteria didn't spread to SL. No such miracles.

As for the fuss about a picture of an "underage avatar"--huh? Is it that SL must only be used for sex, so all avatars have to be sexually appropriate? Or must all RL kids be exterminated because some have been subjected to abuse?

and i dont think anyone is questioning the legitimacy of the photo you posted. i think the comment about 'the original' was suggesting that perhaps _resizing_ the pic had made it lose quality. i doubt anyone thinks you doctored the pic

That I did not do. That is the way the site posted it. It did come from the llabs advertizers website. it even had a name of the boy on it. But that too i edit it. Because I did not want any lindens coming back to me about reporting off that site.

reporting what? i cannot see what the issue with the photo is. its just some kid sitting there. hes not doing anything improper.

why should we take your word for it Usagi? for all we know YOU made that picture and whoa nevermind all that . . i cant see anything inappropriate about the picture anyway For the life of me cant understand what she is raving about this time

I see nothing wrong with the pic either, I see a SL child av. Nothing more, nothing less, and perfectly normal.

Pardon? ...............did you try to say something? or did you instead with your butt? BTW did you pay for this alt?

It the days where undersized avies was ( 3 years ago) it was just a passing thought. But know a days people seems to start making issues about this.

lol . . i win

Add me to the list of those who fail to see anything wrong with that picture in the context shown.

There's some weird confusion going on here, I think. Is the whole fuss about this picture possibly *irony* and we're all too hyper-sensitized to recognize it?

Well, as one of those "7ft tall bimbos" I feel obligated to speak for our kind.

The fact is, The measurement system in SL is off, by more than a bit. SL's avatar is based on the Poser 2 Mesh, and apparently they brought over the same out-of-proportion measurement system from Poser. If you go to any major Poser site, such as www.Renderosity.com, you will find the same debates raging, as some defend using the built in measurement system which makes the human form too short, vs those who want the character to be in realistic proportion, resulting in 6-7 ft tall characters, based on the internal scale. It's too much to be coincidence that the same is seen here. As I don't wish to play a midget, I do here as I did in Poser all my years of using it, I let my eye guide the proportions, and ignore the artificial scale. It's arbitrary.

Could be.................. strange how llabs has refered ageplay to be not allowed. But then let images on japanese web site post images like this. The idea and setup ( the school building and land it sits on) of said company was about a japanese grade school system and this boy was part of it. As I said earlier my child has used the services and products this company produces for languge schooling. But after seeing that the said company used photos like this. ( KNOWING that SL is full of Mature content ) I will nolong suport said company. It gives off the wrong impression about the japanese schooling system and can well.........lead to a possible actions like what happen withthe german news about ageplay and porn within sl. I am a parent, my child deals withthe said company and they are now using sl as their learning platform? shakeshead....I am a parent i worry too.

children arent allowed on the adult grid so your entire point makes no sense